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<edit> looks like a hoax, see tarantino's post below

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewfor...EU3RuX2RoREE6MA

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Looks like the survey is being run by Steven Walling and "a Community Health Task Force volunteer who wishes to remain anonymous".

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related thread; The "holy shit" slide on editor retention, Sue Gardner on Wikipedia's death spiral

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I will email Salsman and ask him if he would talk about any results he's obtained.

In case you didn't know, Salsman is a serious player in the educational software field.
How utterly typical of Wikipedia insiders to treat him like a common vandal.

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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Wed 15th February 2012, 3:15pm) *

I will email Salsman and ask him if he would talk about any results he's obtained.

In case you didn't know, Salsman is a serious player in the educational software field.
How utterly typical of Wikipedia insiders to treat him like a common vandal.

See also this G+ thread.
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QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Wed 15th February 2012, 1:52pm) *

See also this G+ thread.

That bears repeating here.....
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Pat Gunn - I left over the weakening of the consensus against advertising, in the wake of the VirginMedia donation and corrisponding "thank you" advert, although as I poke around now it looks like Erik Möller is the deputy director of the WMF. If I were to ever come back I would be high profile again, and there is no way I will consider going back until Erik is completely gone. I find it extraordinarily regrettable that GerardM escorted such a malignant person into power.
Feb 12, 2012

James Salsman - +Pat Gunn I share some of your concerns about +Erik Moeller because he has been absurdly contradictory in his communications to me and he seems to be very aggressive in some circumstances, E.g., lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/foundation-l/2012-February/071769.html I know when I spoke with him at the 10th anniversary unconference he was very aggressive and unfriendly towards me. He also gave me his word that he would speak with +Jimmy Wales about admin attrition at the first Foundation Open House in San Francisco but I have been unable to determine whether he actually did.
Feb 12, 2012 (edited)

Pat Gunn
- When I was running for the board, I and several of the other candidates had very negative experiences with him (he was also running for the board); these continued with other community members and were very worrying.

While I think Jimbo's neglect of the community while retaining theoretical leadership is unfortunate, Erik is actively harmful to it, or at least he was when I knew him.

One of the best, most important community members, Danny Wool, was essentially driven from where he needed to be to keep things together. (I also think it's unfortunate that Wikipedia's actual founder is long since gone, but that ship sailed before most people were involved; I lurked on the NuPedia mailing lists way back when).
Feb 12, 2012

Even Sandifer admits Wikipedia has a real problem. Though as usual, he doesn't blame the admins for any of it.
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TungstenCarbide   Inactive Wikipedia administrator survey hoax  
TungstenCarbide   Timeline of an inactive admin; 1- edits Wikipedia ...  
No one of consequence   5- looks around and sees despicable worms of all ...  
everyking   5- looks around and sees despicable worms of all...  
No one of consequence   I suppose that does sound better than "despi...  
tarantino   [url=https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform...  
TungstenCarbide   The survey wasn't approved by Walling or the W...  
tarantino   [quote name='tarantino' post='297926' date='Wed 1...  
tarantino   Also, if you see an IP from the SF Bay area on th...  
jsalsman   Also, if you see an IP from the SF Bay area on t...  
TungstenCarbide   That's not me. I haven't been in the Bay A...  
jsalsman   Did you intentionally try to mislead people with y...  
SB_Johnny   So far over a dozen formerly inactive admins have...  
EricBarbour   So far over a dozen formerly inactive admins have...  
tarantino   [quote name='tarantino' post='298471' date='Mon 2...  
jsalsman   My apologies, and welcome to The Review. Don...  
iii   P.S. Ask a serial sockpuppeter who believes improv...  
jsalsman   What's with the cold fusion obsession? My ar...  
EricBarbour   I think it's a great article to work on becau...  
iii   [quote name='iii' post='299004' date='Fri 24th Fe...  
Fusion   P.S. Ask a serial sockpuppeter who believes impro...  
TungstenCarbide   In case you didn't know, [url=http://talknicer...  
EricBarbour   Yes, and you should read the Nrcprm2026 SPI. This ...  
Kelly Martin   It should also be noted that Pat Gunn is Improv, o...  
EricBarbour   Salsman's been talking about WMF people on his...  
tarantino   Now in addition to the accounts he used to send 30...  
HRIP7   Now in addition to the accounts he used to send 3...  
iii   I don't know what's wrong with Mr. Salsman...  
EricBarbour   I don't know what's wrong with Mr. Salsma...  
TungstenCarbide   I don't know what's wrong with Mr. Salsm...  
iii   a) I don't get that impression from looking at...  
Kelly Martin   The behavior of WMF staff and sundry in this affai...  
iii   The behavior of WMF staff and sundry in this affa...  
tarantino   [quote name='Kelly Martin' post='298065' date='Th...  
EricBarbour   I'm beginning to think iii is right--he hasn...  
Kelly Martin   Well, technically I'm not an inactive admin be...  


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