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The "foreign sources" controversy returns, the dynamic duo rides again |
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QUOTE(Silver seren @ Tue 8th February 2011, 11:43pm) Ugh, I hate that argument. Nowadays, i'm of the opinion that foreign sources are more reliable than US sources, considering how incompetent US media has proven themselves in the past year.
And, yes, link please.
Here, and I've been involved in the discussion. It appears to me that SV and Will are afraid of LaRouche supporters using foreign sources to do an end-around the general prohibition on using materials from the LaRouche organization in the articles. They seem to be afraid of LaRouche's supporters trying to use the articles to promote LaRouche's platform. I understand that outside observers like Chip Berlet say that what LaRouche actually stands for is different than what he publicly says he stands for. But what do we care? We're not supposed to take sides. If the LaRouche articles accurately reflect what the LaRouche movement claims it stands for, then includes any notable criticism, that seems fine to me.
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QUOTE(Cla68 @ Wed 9th February 2011, 9:06pm) QUOTE(It's the blimp, Frank @ Thu 10th February 2011, 4:12am) QUOTE(Cla68 @ Wed 9th February 2011, 12:17am) Here, and I've been involved in the discussion. Do you really think that Angel's Flight is more incongenial than SV? I haven't seen SV acting that way lately, at least, not in that discussion. She is a veteran of a thousand POV battles, and a master of the saccharine "Fuck you." She is employing several tactics at once here: a constant drumbeat of condescending and insulting remarks that are kept just below the "incivility" threshold; an editing offensive that, as usual, contains a high volume of POV edits mixed with so-called "tightening" and is intended to keep her opponents on edge; and the raising of all sorts of new issues on the talk page in order to change the subject away from the foreign language sources, because she has run out of arguments on that one.
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QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Thu 10th February 2011, 2:51pm) QUOTE(Cla68 @ Wed 9th February 2011, 9:06pm) QUOTE(It's the blimp, Frank @ Thu 10th February 2011, 4:12am) QUOTE(Cla68 @ Wed 9th February 2011, 12:17am) Here, and I've been involved in the discussion. Do you really think that Angel's Flight is more incongenial than SV? I haven't seen SV acting that way lately, at least, not in that discussion. She is a veteran of a thousand POV battles, and a master of the saccharine "Fuck you." She is employing several tactics at once here: a constant drumbeat of condescending and insulting remarks that are kept just below the "incivility" threshold; an editing offensive that, as usual, contains a high volume of POV edits mixed with so-called "tightening" and is intended to keep her opponents on edge; and the raising of all sorts of new issues on the talk page in order to change the subject away from the foreign language sources, because she has run out of arguments on that one. That may be, but I expect that any editors who disagree with her and want to be taken seriously should probably take the high road and not allow the dispute to give the appearance of a personal battle. This post has been edited by Cla68:
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QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Sat 12th February 2011, 11:52pm) Slim and Will appear to be arguing that the Lebedev Institute is now controlled by LaRouche and must be excluded as a self-published source. I have no idea if the Lebedev Institute has been taken over by HK. However, it may well be a self-published source. So are the proceedings of many learned societies, and so indeed are many newspapers. It does make you concerned about some of the rules for reliable sources when they are clearly self-contradictory like that. Incidentally, if a reliable source quotes a self-published source with approval, does that validate the self-published source?
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QUOTE(It's the blimp, Frank @ Tue 15th February 2011, 5:48pm) Who is Crotalus horridus? He seems to be making a very neutral and reasonable intervention.
The rattlesnake? Oh, the user. He failed an RfA a year ago.
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