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> Wikia meltdown: layoffs, ...the numbers don't look promising either....
the fieryangel
post Tue 21st October 2008, 4:17pm
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Check out the comments on the CNET Article :

1. Greg Kohser
2. Jimbo
3. Rachel Marsden, who wins the Miss Congeniality award for her post :

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Shut yo mouf, JimbHO. Or I'll auction what's left of your "company" off on eBay.
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post Tue 21st October 2008, 4:37pm
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Looks like another source is rapidly descending from reliable to unreliable.
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post Tue 21st October 2008, 4:49pm
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If it is all venture funding, they may take a look at what is left in the pot and ask for it back. What has Wikia got - some commodity web hosting and a failed search project that nobody could conceive of being practical - apart from that well-known technical wizard Jimbo. If I was a VC and had the choice of getting 10% of my money back now or 0% in a year's time, I don't think I'd struggle too hard.
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post Tue 21st October 2008, 5:33pm
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QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Tue 21st October 2008, 9:17am) *
1. Greg Kohser
2. Jimbo
3. Rachel Marsden, who wins the Miss Congeniality award for her post :
I think it's likely that the comment from "Rachel Marsden" is actually a troll. Jimbo's strikes me as about fifty-fifty likely to be genuine (you'd think he'd contact the writer privately, at least in the first instance, or go the full-fledged "letter to the editor" route), while Greg's is almost certainly genuine. There doesn't appear to be any meaningful authentication process for setting up a commenting account, so we shouldn't assume that people are who they say they are.
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post Tue 21st October 2008, 5:57pm
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The Marsden account may be a troll, but Jimbo's been registered there since 2007.
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post Tue 21st October 2008, 6:00pm
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QUOTE(cyofee @ Tue 21st October 2008, 10:57am) *
The Marsden account may be a troll, but Jimbo's been registered there since 2007.

Huh, right you are - strange that this is his first ever comment, though. I believe this is the sort of thing that makes people cry "sleeper sock" over at Wikipedia.
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post Tue 21st October 2008, 7:04pm
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QUOTE(cyofee @ Tue 21st October 2008, 5:37pm) *

Looks like another source is rapidly descending from reliable to unreliable.

Yep - and undermining the source looks like a fairly desperate defence from ol' Jimbo.

The best Wikia can do is try to reduce the story to dickering about the number that has been sacked - and hope that's interpreted as "everything's all right, then".

In the absence of some inside information, we don't know the actual number. The rebuttal on the Reg story is carefully worded on this point - "recently let go less than 10% of its salaried employees". Interesting adjective they have there. So...err...that's 4 salaried, and a bunch of contractors? How are the Polish guys employed?

No one's in a hurry to update to http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Wikia_Staff, unsurprisingly.
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post Tue 21st October 2008, 7:35pm
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"recently let go less than 10% of its salaried employees"


Yep, anyone who ever dealt with Wikipedians would smell that weasel word a mile away.
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post Tue 21st October 2008, 7:36pm
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Are all their technical staff Polish? huh.gif
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post Tue 21st October 2008, 7:40pm
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QUOTE(The Joy @ Tue 21st October 2008, 1:36pm) *

Are all their technical staff Polish? huh.gif


Maybe they were shipped to Poland to reside in simulated basement apartments. Saves 40% over North American or Western European wages. It would be 60% but the pierogi hot pocket substitutes didn't work out.
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post Tue 21st October 2008, 7:52pm
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Given Green Wikia was launched with something of a fanfare, it's amazing to see how quiet it is over there...

http://green.wikia.com/wiki/Special:RecentChanges

Which is just further evidence of their problems.
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post Tue 21st October 2008, 8:05pm
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QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Tue 21st October 2008, 8:40pm) *

QUOTE(The Joy @ Tue 21st October 2008, 1:36pm) *

Are all their technical staff Polish? huh.gif


Maybe they were shipped to Poland to reside in simulated basement apartments.

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post Tue 21st October 2008, 9:24pm
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Cost of living in poland is fantastically low though. Have often thought about going freelance and then quietly moving over there. No smoking ban in the cafes yet either.
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post Tue 21st October 2008, 9:28pm
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QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Tue 21st October 2008, 12:35pm) *

QUOTE(UseOnceAndDestroy @ Tue 21st October 2008, 1:04pm) *

"recently let go less than 10% of its salaried employees"


Yep, anyone who ever dealt with Wikipedians would smell that weasel word a mile away.

Anyone who has dealt with corporate lawyers. A lie not by the actual statement, but rather by its implication and misdirection. Every time.

If you punch a timeclock, or you're any kind of consultant, you're not a salaried employee.
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post Tue 21st October 2008, 9:31pm
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QUOTE(Krimpet @ Mon 20th October 2008, 2:35pm) *

(I can't fathom at all why the Foundation decided to move to San Francisco from St. Petersburg - most businesses and organizations would be doing the exact opposite.)


More orgasms.
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post Tue 21st October 2008, 9:35pm
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Tue 21st October 2008, 9:31pm) *

QUOTE(Krimpet @ Mon 20th October 2008, 2:35pm) *

(I can't fathom at all why the Foundation decided to move to San Francisco from St. Petersburg - most businesses and organizations would be doing the exact opposite.)


More orgasms.


legal prostitution? go jimbo! no need for nasty tattle-tail spunkburlgar canadiens any more!


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San Francisco weighs decriminalizing prostitution

By EVELYN NIEVES
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Posted: Today at 3:47 p.m.

SAN FRANCISCO — In this live-and-let-live town, where medical marijuana clubs do business next to grocery stores and an annual fair celebrates sadomasochism, prostitutes could soon walk the streets without fear of arrest.

San Francisco would become the first major U.S. city to decriminalize prostitution if voters next month approve Proposition K - a measure that forbids local authorities from investigating, arresting or prosecuting anyone for selling sex....
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post Tue 21st October 2008, 10:47pm
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QUOTE(The Wales Hunter @ Tue 21st October 2008, 8:52pm) *

Given Green Wikia was launched with something of a fanfare, it's amazing to see how quiet it is over there...

http://green.wikia.com/wiki/Special:RecentChanges

Which is just further evidence of their problems.


You think that's bad, go have a look at the Wikia Search "social" stats starting from http://re.search.wikia.com/metrics/queries.html.

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Distinct trend there.

(If anyone can point me to some solid registered/inactive user stats for Wikia search, I'd be most appreciative.)
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post Wed 22nd October 2008, 2:12am
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Tue 21st October 2008, 9:28pm) *

QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Tue 21st October 2008, 12:35pm) *

QUOTE(UseOnceAndDestroy @ Tue 21st October 2008, 1:04pm) *

"recently let go less than 10% of its salaried employees"


Yep, anyone who ever dealt with Wikipedians would smell that weasel word a mile away.

Anyone who has dealt with corporate lawyers. A lie not by the actual statement, but rather by its implication and misdirection. Every time.

If you punch a timeclock, or you're any kind of consultant, you're not a salaried employee.


"Well, just a second there, professor. We, uh, we fixed the *glitch*. So he won't be receiving a paycheck anymore, so it'll just work itself out naturally."
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post Wed 22nd October 2008, 2:21am
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QUOTE(anthony @ Tue 21st October 2008, 8:12pm) *



"Well, just a second there, professor. We, uh, we fixed the *glitch*. So he won't be receiving a paycheck anymore, so it'll just work itself out naturally."




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post Wed 22nd October 2008, 4:02am
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QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Tue 21st October 2008, 7:21pm) *

QUOTE(anthony @ Tue 21st October 2008, 8:12pm) *



"Well, just a second there, professor. We, uh, we fixed the *glitch*. So he won't be receiving a paycheck anymore, so it'll just work itself out naturally."




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Lamont Stormstar will be so pleased.
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