What is Cirt's Deal?, Did a Google Search for Cirt and Wikipedia and was shocked Options

[rockyBarton]

I have had a few encounters with an admin named Cirt who struck me as really territorial about certain articles. Curious, I did a Google search "Cirt wikipedia" and came up with several threads on this board. After having read them and I am shocked at the history of this editor and left wondering how someone like this can be an adminstrator.

Cirt edits more than 18 hours a day and 7 days a week to boot. How can anyone do that?

Given the number of hours Cirt edits and their anti-cult agenda, has anyone ever been suspicious that they are paid, or that the account is used by more than one person?

Doesn't Wikipedia have rules against this kind of thing?

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[Kelly Martin]

Probably just someone who is living off of unearned income (trust fund, settlement annuity, inheritance, or some sort of public pension). We see a lot of that on Wikipedia: socially marginal individuals who are not required to work due to their circumstances, and who fill their otherwise meaningless lives with social maneuvering in the WikiSphere. Many of them have deeply held, often strange, belief systems which they use Wikipedia to express.

Not that this necessarily describes Cirt. But it might.

[A Horse With No Name]

I have had a few encounters with an admin named Cirt who struck me as really territorial about certain articles. Curious, I did a Google search "Cirt wikipedia" and came up with several threads on this board. After having read them and I am shocked at the history of this editor and left wondering how someone like this can be an adminstrator.

You can blame Durova, who pushed this horrible editor to adminship. And blame the "community" for giving adminship to someone who was blocked seven times under a number of different account names (and that only came out while the RfA was in progress!).

Cirt edits more than 18 hours a day and 7 days a week to boot. How can anyone do that?

Compared to Blofeld, Cirt is a slacker.

Given the number of hours Cirt edits and their anti-cult agenda, has anyone ever been suspicious that they are paid, or that the account is used by more than one person?

Paid, perhaps. More than one person, no.

Doesn't Wikipedia have rules against this kind of thing?

No, they usually award barnstars for such behavior.

[Nerd]

Cirt edits more than 18 hours a day and 7 days a week to boot. How can anyone do that?

It's kinda hard to become an admin if you edit less than that.

Given the number of hours Cirt edits and their anti-cult agenda, has anyone ever been suspicious that they are paid, or that the account is used by more than one person?

Doesn't Wikipedia have rules against this kind of thing?

No, I never have. It's fairly normal on Wikipedia. And no, no rules. As the horse said, it's encouraged in the form of barnstars and adminship is the grand prize.

[rockyBarton]

Probably just someone who is living off of unearned income (trust fund, settlement annuity, inheritance, or some sort of public pension). We see a lot of that on Wikipedia: socially marginal individuals who are not required to work due to their circumstances, and who fill their otherwise meaningless lives with social maneuvering in the WikiSphere. Many of them have deeply held, often strange, belief systems which they use Wikipedia to express.

Not that this necessarily describes Cirt. But it might.

I think it totally describes Cirt. Look at this edit count and thier most popular topics: http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/topedits/i...irt&namespace=0


Why has this person been made an admin with that kind of histor?

[Nerd]

I think it totally describes Cirt. Look at this edit count and thier most popular topics: http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/topedits/i...irt&namespace=0


Why has this person been made an admin with that kind of histor?

Uh, what's wrong with that?

[carbuncle]

Given the number of hours Cirt edits and their anti-cult agenda, has anyone ever been suspicious that they are paid, or that the account is used by more than one person?

Paid, perhaps. More than one person, no.

Do you think someone would create something as promotional as [[Corbin Fisher]] for free? And that's not a rhetorical question - I really don't know.

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[Somey]

Given the number of hours Cirt edits and their anti-cult agenda, has anyone ever been suspicious that they are paid, or that the account is used by more than one person?

It looks like you've been trying to add things to the List of new religious movements (T-H-L-K-D), but Mr. Cirt (T-C-L-K-R-D) has been resisting these due to his apparent belief that groups he considers to be cults should not be treated as "religious movements"?

Presumably Mr. Cirt's bad-faith assumption is that you're trying to promote one such group in particular, and adding numerous groups to the list in order to cover for it... That actually does work sometimes, but if that is indeed what you're doing, it's usually best to make all your additions in one edit, with carefully-checked formatting and citations (i.e., no mistakes) - it reduces the likelihood of immediate reversion.

[rockyBarton]

I think it totally describes Cirt. Look at this edit count and thier most popular topics: http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/topedits/i...irt&namespace=0


Why has this person been made an admin with that kind of histor?

Uh, what's wrong with that?

I guest what I think is wrong is that they can have such an obsesive agenda driven behavior and still be in a position to block people.

Look at how active they are.
http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/count/inde...&wiki=wikipedia

They have blocked editors more than 4000 times and deleted over 8000 pages. I think that is abuse of the position of Adminship.

[A Horse With No Name]

I guest what I think is wrong is that they can have such an obsesive agenda driven behavior and still be in a position to block people.

Look at how active they are.
http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/count/inde...&wiki=wikipedia

They have blocked editors more than 4000 times and deleted over 8000 pages. I think that is abuse of the position of Adminship.

I am surprised Cirt hasn't run for Arbcom yet. I suspect that he's fat enough for the job, if all he does is sit around playing on Wikipedia. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/ermm.gif)

Say, does anyone know who Cirt is off-Wiki? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif)

[rockyBarton]

Given the number of hours Cirt edits and their anti-cult agenda, has anyone ever been suspicious that they are paid, or that the account is used by more than one person?

It looks like you've been trying to add things to the List of new religious movements (T-H-L-K-D), but Mr. Cirt (T-C-L-K-R-D) has been resisting these due to his apparent belief that groups he considers to be cults should not be treated as "religious movements"?

Presumably Mr. Cirt's bad-faith assumption is that you're trying to promote one such group in particular, and adding numerous groups to the list in order to cover for it... That actually does work sometimes, but if that is indeed what you're doing, it's usually best to make all your additions in one edit, with carefully-checked formatting and citations (i.e., no mistakes) - it reduces the likelihood of immediate reversion.

I don't have a horse in that race. I was at first facinated with the wierdness of some of the groups then I became facinated with the Witchhunt mentality of the people who are against the groups. Now I am shocked at what Cirt is able to get away with.

[A Horse With No Name]

I don't have a horse in that race.

What am I, chopped liver? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/hrmph.gif)

[Nerd]

Look at how active they are.
http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/count/inde...&wiki=wikipedia

They have blocked editors more than 4000 times and deleted over 8000 pages. I think that is abuse of the position of Adminship.

Sorry, I don't follow. How does that mean they have abused adminship? Admins are meant to do that sort of thing.

[Somey]

I don't have a horse in that race. I was at first facinated with the wierdness of some of the groups then I became facinated with the Witchhunt mentality of the people who are against the groups.

Well, bear in mind that the standard Wikipedian reaction to that will be "that's what they all say," and that Cirt might well be doing the same thing himself - either promoting a favored group or targeting an unfavored one, by lumping it in with others that are in some way similar. Someone who does this himself/herself is much more likely to notice and suspect others of doing the same thing, often without even realizing it, and often non-justifiably.

The Corbin Fisher (T-H-L-K-D) article is more concerning, but it was posted this month (Dec. 2009), whereas he was made an admin well over a year ago (mid-September 2008). It's possible that he was approached by (or started working for) Corbin Fisher recently, but otherwise we'd probably have to assume that he would have created the article a long time ago if he were a vested employee or principal. Either way, it's dicey - that appears to be the only new gay-porn-related article he's created, and if you get past the gay-porn aspect, you could make a similar CoI claim about his Everything Tastes Better with Bacon (T-H-L-K-D) article, for example - it's basically an advertisement. But obviously, while you can certainly object to the promotion of gay porn on moral grounds, you can't deny the basic fact that everything does, indeed, taste better with bacon.

[A Horse With No Name]

The Corbin Fisher (T-H-L-K-D) article is more concerning, but it was posted this month (Dec. 2009), whereas he was made an admin well over a year ago (mid-September 2008). It's possible that he was approached by (or started working for) Corbin Fisher recently, but otherwise we'd probably have to assume that he would have created the article a long time ago if he were a vested employee or principal. Either way, it's dicey - that appears to be the only new gay-porn-related article he's created, and if you get past the gay-porn aspect, you could make a similar CoI claim about his Everything Tastes Better with Bacon (T-H-L-K-D) article, for example - it's basically an advertisement. But obviously, while you can certainly object to the promotion of gay porn on moral grounds, you can't deny the basic fact that everything does, indeed, taste better with bacon.

Take a look at the articles that Cirt created: http://toolserver.org/~soxred93/pages/inde...cts=noredirects

It appears that Mr. Cirt is a journalist or publicist or both. The average Wikipediot would not create articles about the Sunday Magazine Editors Association, Portland Monthly, and the San Jose Mercury News West Magazine. I suspect he is doing PR work for Corbin Fisher and the lady who wrote the bacon book -- the writing is too complex and sophisticated for the average hobbyist.

Ditto articles such as Leaving Springfield, The Official Razzie Movie Guide and Twisted Scriptures. My cash goes into the bet that Cirt is being well-paid to get Wikipedia coverage for these diverse and fairly obscure books.

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[Somey]

My cash goes into the bet that Cirt is being well-paid to get Wikipedia coverage for these diverse and fairly obscure books.

So is the anti-cult activity a cover for the PR work, then? I'm not saying the anti-cult activity is bad, of course - quite to the contrary - but if I were a publicist and wanted to gain the trust of the WP community, knowing their general dislike of other cults, that would be at or near the top of my list for ways to gain a reputation among them.

[A Horse With No Name]

My cash goes into the bet that Cirt is being well-paid to get Wikipedia coverage for these diverse and fairly obscure books.

So is the anti-cult activity a cover for the PR work, then? I'm not saying the anti-cult activity is bad, of course - quite to the contrary - but if I were a publicist and wanted to gain the trust of the WP community, knowing their general dislike of other cults, that would be at or near the top of my list for ways to gain a reputation among them.

I suspect the anti-cult stuff is Cirt's own obsession. If he was just focused on that, then he would be yet another OCD case using Wikipedia in order to vent his frustrations.

In reading his articles, it is obvious that Cirt is a professional writer. The articles are much too polished for an amateur site, and there are tricks in his writing that any fellow pen-pusher will immediately recognize.

Cirt doesn't need the trust of the WP "community" -- he gamed the system via Durova and he has what he needs in the way of tools. But I will wager he is not on WP because of the community -- he is obviously getting paid to ensure those articles get online and stay there.

[carbuncle]

My cash goes into the bet that Cirt is being well-paid to get Wikipedia coverage for these diverse and fairly obscure books.

Kinda looks that way doesn't it? Let me know if anyone takes your bet.

[Somey]

In reading his articles, it is obvious that Cirt is a professional writer. The articles are much too polished for an amateur site, and there are tricks in his writing that any fellow pen-pusher will immediately recognize.

Agreed; these articles definitely go beyond mere fandom. But my initial point still stands: Everything really does taste better with bacon, no matter how you slice it. (I prefer thick-cut, myself!) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/letsgetdrunk.gif)

[Cedric]

Either way, it's dicey - that appears to be the only new gay-porn-related article he's created, and if you get past the gay-porn aspect, you could make a similar CoI claim about his Everything Tastes Better with Bacon (T-H-L-K-D) article, for example - it's basically an advertisement. But obviously, while you can certainly object to the promotion of gay porn on moral grounds, you can't deny the basic fact that everything does, indeed, taste better with bacon.

Bacon!

(IMG:http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc358/WRCedric/bacon.png)

Bacon! Bacon! Bacon! Bacon! Bacon! Wherrrrrrrrrre?!

I can't reeeeeeeeead!

[The Joy]

Cirt is something of a jerk. He even argued with an editor that had a "Semi-Retired" tag on his userpage that that was not appropriate. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif)

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=330482628

[thekohser]

Say, does anyone know who Cirt is off-Wiki? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif)

I heard this might be his mom, mowing her lawn.

[SB_Johnny]

you can't deny the basic fact that everything does, indeed, taste better with bacon.

Amen, brother.

[Krimpet]

Agreed; these articles definitely go beyond mere fandom. But my initial point still stands: Everything really does taste better with bacon, no matter how you slice it. (I prefer thick-cut, myself!) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/letsgetdrunk.gif)

Thank the good Lord for Baconnaise and Baconnaise Lite.

[A Horse With No Name]

This article confirms that Cirt is being paid to promote people on Wikipedia -- it is an utterly absurd subject (an ex-military type and one-time school board officer who is running for the California state senate), but it is written so vigorously and with such depth that it goes completely beyond the fanboy hobbyist writing that makes up most of WP's BLPs. The article is up for AfD, with the nominator clearly seeing through the charade.

And perhaps one of his clients is WMF? - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber_Rights

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[Random832]

Thank the good Lord for Baconnaise and Baconnaise Lite.

Contains no actual bacon. â“ŠD

[Trick cyclist]

You're missing most of the story. He's active all over the place.

http://toolserver.org/~vvv/sulutil.php?user=Cirt

Commons: Admin

Wikinews: Checkuser

Wikiquote: Sysop

Wikisource: Sysop

[Milton Roe]

Cirt doesn't need the trust of the WP "community" -- he gamed the system via Durova and he has what he needs in the way of tools. But I will wager he is not on WP because of the community -- he is obviously getting paid to ensure those articles get online and stay there.

A shame that Durova's finely honed linguistic skills don't extend to finely honed conflict of interest sensing skills.

After Mercury and Cirt, I don't think I'd trust Ms. Armor All to manage personnel at a hot dog stand.

[SirFozzie]

I love the attitude here "He writes too well on vague things. He MUST be paid to do so..."

How about proof, or at least pointing at to what PoV he's writing to?

Or is that an unnecessary step these days?

[carbuncle]

I love the attitude here "He writes too well on vague things. He MUST be paid to do so..."

How about proof, or at least pointing at to what PoV he's writing to?

Or is that an unnecessary step these days?

The article I mentioned -- [[Corbin Fisher]] -- caught my attention not because it was well-written, but because it was a complete puff piece, padded out with tangents and trivia. The only other editors are two IPs, one of whom likely either is or works for [[Marc Randazza]].

I wasn't sure about the paid editing from that article, but with the links Horsey provided, I am now pretty well sold. This isn't WP and, since we all know there is no penalty for paid editing, I'm not going to raise the issue there. I have enough evidence to form an opinion, which is the only step I'm taking here.

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[rockyBarton]

I don't have a horse in that race. I was at first facinated with the wierdness of some of the groups then I became facinated with the Witchhunt mentality of the people who are against the groups.

Well, bear in mind that the standard Wikipedian reaction to that will be "that's what they all say," and that Cirt might well be doing the same thing himself - either promoting a favored group or targeting an unfavored one, by lumping it in with others that are in some way similar. Someone who does this himself/herself is much more likely to notice and suspect others of doing the same thing, often without even realizing it, and often non-justifiably.

The Corbin Fisher (T-H-L-K-D) article is more concerning, but it was posted this month (Dec. 2009), whereas he was made an admin well over a year ago (mid-September 2008). It's possible that he was approached by (or started working for) Corbin Fisher recently, but otherwise we'd probably have to assume that he would have created the article a long time ago if he were a vested employee or principal. Either way, it's dicey - that appears to be the only new gay-porn-related article he's created, and if you get past the gay-porn aspect, you could make a similar CoI claim about his Everything Tastes Better with Bacon (T-H-L-K-D) article, for example - it's basically an advertisement. But obviously, while you can certainly object to the promotion of gay porn on moral grounds, you can't deny the basic fact that everything does, indeed, taste better with bacon.

I had no idea this was such a rabbit hole....... Do rabbits eat bacon?

[Krimpet]

Contains no actual bacon. â“ŠD

Well, to get my pork fix at the same time, I personally follow Jon Stewart's lead and use it as a dip for Pancakes n' Sausage on a Stick.

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[A Horse With No Name]

I love the attitude here "He writes too well on vague things. He MUST be paid to do so..."

How about proof, or at least pointing at to what PoV he's writing to?

Or is that an unnecessary step these days?

First, be able to see your feet -- then you can see the facts.

Several of Cirt's articles relate to media awards. I've been in the media 25 years and anyone who has been around as long as me will recognize these have no cred beyond those who may have a first person attachment to these laurels. Only a media professional would be aware of these awards and want to write about them.

No person outside of the media would even know this group exists. I suspect Cirt is a long standing member of this group.

The PR puffery is too obvious in some cases. This did not organically arise out of the pressing need for an encyclopedia article about a school board officer who decided to run in 2010 for the California state senate. This consists of references to 12-year-old articles -- no person outside of the campaign would waste their time hunting up such old references to bolster what is basically an advertisement for an ambitious small time politician seeking a local office.

Corbin Fisher got a DYK that cited the gay porno company's health benefits and 401(k) plan. No encyclopedic coverage would dig that deep (there is nothing unusual about a company offering health benefits or a 401(k). Nor would anyone highlight that for DYK tribute -- especially when the real story that would entice the average Net reader is the studio's attempt to cash in on Levi Johnston's 15 minutes of fame -- unless an attempt is being made to spin the company's cred.

Cirt repeatedly uses critics' reviews as a means to push credibility. That is stretched to the fraying point here -- getting critical confirmation from the Syracuse Post-Standard? The funny thing is that Cirt intentionally plays down the one thing Hurlbut is famous for -- being the recipient of Christian Bale's scatological tirade from earlier this year. That is not an accident -- I suspect Hurlbut engaged Cirt to write the article, since downplaying that high-profile event makes Bale look good (and there is no reason to do that, unless you want to shoot Bale's next films).

I can go on and on, but it is fairly obvious that these articles are the result of a professional writer/publicist. It reminds me of the Abbott and Costello exchange in their dice routine:

Costello: Did I do something wrong?
Abbott: No, you did something too right!

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[EricBarbour]

Well, well. It's about time someone ran afoul of Cirt and started asking questions.....

Everything said above is essentially correct: he (she?) 's an asshole, he's a consummate Wiki-player, he loves to fight with people and toss the banhammer, and he's long been suspected of editing for pay--except by Durova and the other oldtimers who protect him. Primarily because he's had his nose buried deeply up Durova's ass for the last 2 years. Plus, sucking up to other manic editors during their RFAs (including East 718, GlassCobra, John Carter, and furry-freak Tony Fox). Because he supported these mutants at RFA, they support him in disputes.

According to the record, he first appeared on Sept. 22, 2007, and gained adminship Sept. 15, 2008. Note the rabid way in which the Witch protects his precious identity.

Oh, and: he's been suspected of being a Scientologist, because of his aggressive pwnage of Hubbard-related articles....despite claiming otherwise and otherwise pushing an anti-Scientology line. His obsession with Battlefield Earth is truly bizarre.

Even weirder: he's been suspected of being Werner Erhard.....eh, maybe he's just a graduate of one of Erhard's courses?

In case you're wondering: it's impossible to do research on-wiki about Cirt's identity, as he has deleted and oversighted the early history of his userpage. But you will find this and this interesting.

So, he was previously called Smee (back to May 2006), then before that Smeelgova (whose edit history is lost) and Curt Wilhelm VonSavage (also lost). All notorious for 3RR battles over Scientology articles.

Conclusion? You can be an unpleasant, abusive, corrupt Wikipedian.
Just suck up to powerful admins first, and you'll get away with it.

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[Cla68]

I love the attitude here "He writes too well on vague things. He MUST be paid to do so..."

How about proof, or at least pointing at to what PoV he's writing to?

Or is that an unnecessary step these days?

First, be able to see your feet -- then you can see the facts.

As long as someone is following the rules, paid editing is fine. In fact, I say more power to them. If Cirt is the first editor to make a living editing Wikipedia, perhaps he/she should be interviewed by anyone who happens to be working on a book about Wikipedia?

[Cock-up-over-conspiracy]

Cirt edits more than 18 hours a day and 7 days a week to boot. How can anyone do that?

Good heavens ... the Barton is right.

I know within the madness that is the Whackopedia this sounds ridiculous but not-for-profits DO have legal responsibilities towards their voluntary workers equivalent to commercial companies, as I affirmed in the topic on the exploitation of Children on the Wikipedia and relating to Child Protection.

I saw cases of this myself with editors, such as the rabid anti-Japanese Korean Caspian blue (T-C-L-K-R-D) . In that case there are grounds to suspect the account was the facade for a team, e.g. the anti-Japanese Korean cyber activists, unfortunately called VANK. The question is not just how they can edit for 18 hours ... but how they can account for the research time too?

I could imagine that anything within the religious cult area, pro or con, would encourage similar ventures.

For the record, Caspian blue is STILL going on about the Japanese ... and this is for those you that suggest calling them Kimchi warriors is racist ... Onigiri.


Here is an average 12 hour day ... And he was still going at 08:49, 23 December 2009, another 12 hour shift.

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And in his defence, he did keep the topic on Nazi UFOs. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/blink.gif)

This post has been edited by Cock-up-over-conspiracy:

[A Horse With No Name]

Even weirder: he's been suspected of being Werner Erhard.....eh, maybe he's just a graduate of one of Erhard's courses?

Being Erhard would explain his knowledge of the media industry and its awards, based on Erhard's career at Parents Magazine. No one outside of the media could possibly know about the topics Cirt is writing on.

It would also explain the absurd surplus of time that he has in playing on Wikipedia -- being a retired senior, he would have plenty of time to kill.

But that doesn't quite explain the blatant PR pieces for the California state senate candidate, the obscure cinematographer, the crummy books, unless...

...Barton is half-right -- there is more than one person involved with the Cirt account.

I have a theory. There is a single person in control of the writing of the Cirt account -- anyone trained in analyzing writing styles can spot that immediately. However, it might make sense if someone else (another individual or an agency) is doing the PR for the politician, cinematographer and the authors and they are hiring Cirt (Erhard?) to write up these articles.

Erhard has seven children. Are any of them involved in PR? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/ermm.gif)

[carbuncle]

I have a theory. There is a single person in control of the writing of the Cirt account -- anyone trained in analyzing writing styles can spot that immediately. However, it might make sense if someone else (another individual or an agency) is doing the PR for the politician, cinematographer and the authors and they are hiring Cirt (Erhard?) to write up these articles.

Erhard has seven children. Are any of them involved in PR? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/ermm.gif)

I suspect that some of his children don't work for him, you know, after the incestuous rape allegations and all...

[thekohser]

Hey, I've got to say any editor who basically single-handedly gets a Wikinews article to this point is probably okay in my book.

[wikiwhistle]

Oh, and: he's been suspected of being a Scientologist, because of his aggressive pwnage of Hubbard-related articles....despite claiming otherwise and otherwise pushing an anti-Scientology line. His obsession with Battlefield Earth is truly bizarre.

Even weirder: he's been suspected of being Werner Erhard.

Eh? He's vehemently anti-Sci, but now he tries to edit in the way he's been advised to do, and more impartially now he has more wiki-experince, hence he even bans anti-Scis.