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Jimbo declines unblock with a reason: "pending outcome of Bell Pottinger investigation" I do not recall seeing Jimbo declined unblocks. Does somebody know what is Bell Pottinger investigation?
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"Jimmy" is teaching Bell Pottinger how to it right
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Jimmy is supposed to be giving a talk to them on how to edit Wikipedia ethically, being open about who they are.


I believe it is a very interesting development. If PR firms are allowed to edit on behalf of their clients,does it mean that a paid editing (which I personally have nothing against) is
going to be officially allowed?
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QUOTE(mbz1 @ Fri 9th December 2011, 12:22pm) *

"Jimmy" is teaching Bell Pottinger how to it right
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Jimmy is supposed to be giving a talk to them on how to edit Wikipedia ethically, being open about who they are.


I believe it is a very interesting development. If PR firms are allowed to edit on behalf of their clients,does it mean that a paid editing (which I personally have nothing against) is
going to be officially allowed?


Sigh...

Wikip/media people can say "disclose who you are, be open" all they like; but when a PR firm begins to try that technique, even to remove falsehoods from their clients' Wikipedia articles, "the community" will give them so much push-back and grief, it won't be very long before the PR firm throws up its hands in frustration and just goes back to the "old" way of doing things. Because going undisclosed and pseudonymous is the advantage of the incumbent Wikipediots, any sane person soon discovers that you have to fight fire with fire.

And Jimmy doesn't really care. In fact, the kerfuffle just gives the press another reason to contact him, and that's his objective -- to be in the spotlight.
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 9th December 2011, 5:27pm) *

QUOTE(mbz1 @ Fri 9th December 2011, 12:22pm) *

"Jimmy" is teaching Bell Pottinger how to it right
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Jimmy is supposed to be giving a talk to them on how to edit Wikipedia ethically, being open about who they are.


I believe it is a very interesting development. If PR firms are allowed to edit on behalf of their clients,does it mean that a paid editing (which I personally have nothing against) is
going to be officially allowed?


Sigh...

Wikip/media people can say "disclose who you are, be open" all they like; but when a PR firm begins to try that technique, even to remove falsehoods from their clients' Wikipedia articles, "the community" will give them so much push-back and grief, it won't be very long before the PR firm throws up its hands in frustration and just goes back to the "old" way of doing things. Because going undisclosed and pseudonymous is the advantage of the incumbent Wikipediots, any sane person soon discovers that you have to fight fire with fire.

And Jimmy doesn't really care. In fact, the kerfuffle just gives the press another reason to contact him, and that's his objective -- to be in the spotlight.


OK, but if we are to put all these arguments aside.
Isn't PR firms editing on behalf of their clients no matter how ethical and open it is going to be violates a policy about paid editing, or there are not such policy on wikipedia? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/confused.gif)
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cookiehead   Jimbo [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?ti...  
TungstenCarbide   [quote name='mbz1' post='290389' date='Wed 7th Dec...  
thekohser   He actually [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index....  
SB_Johnny   He actually created some content this week. How o...  
mbz1   [quote name='mbz1' post='290389' date='Wed 7th De...  
Abd   It is also interesting that it took a year before...  
cookiehead   He's determined to catch up to Cla68 in his va...  
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mbz1   Does somebody know what is Bell Pottinger invest...  
mbz1   Wikipedia probes edits by Bell Pottinger  
thekohser   That may be one of the most gullible, deluded po...  
Sololol   That may be one of the most gullible, deluded p...  
thekohser   Jimmy's just a little upset that someone noti...  
Kelly Martin   Or rather, Jimmy has concluded that his reputation...  
mbz1   Has anyone made the connection that this was ju...  
Eppur si muove   Has anyone made the connection that this was j...  
Peter Damian   Haha http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11....  
mbz1   Haha http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11...  
Abd   Pope Catholic. Wikipedia incompetent. The encycl...  
thekohser   Wikipedia has never addressed the problem of COI ...  
Ottava   I saw a politician say that Wikipedia is democrati...  
Abd   The Telegraph.Like most text with words "alwa...  
thekohser   A worthwhile comment was left with The Independent...  
SB_Johnny   Lulz from the AN/I: Emphasis added. Presumably ...  
Michaeldsuarez   I see that PaoloNapolitano, who failed at nominati...  
mbz1   and [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit...  
mbz1   quite a few articles are affected  
thekohser   Not surprisingly, my comments on The Independent, ...  
Eppur si muove   Not surprisingly, my comments [url=http://www.ind...  
thekohser   I think you made a tactical mistake. Rather than ...  
SB_Johnny   Anyway, if they want to post my townhouse on the I...  
Peter Damian   Some puzzling remarks by Jimmy on the BBC. http:/...  
lilburne   Oddly enough I spent a weekend pounding the street...  
cookiehead   Lessons learned from this? it's not Ok to be...  
Michaeldsuarez   I think you made a tactical mistake. Rather than ...  
thekohser   Who is this "previousdenial" character o...  
Eppur si muove   Who is this "previousdenial" character ...  
thekohser   ...admit to using hotspots... Wikipedia has so m...  
Zoloft   Who is this "previousdenial" character ...  
powercorrupts   Who is this "previousdenial" character...  
thekohser   ...it is going to be violates a policy about pai...  
TungstenCarbide   OMG, Jimbo's "personally going to read th...  
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Peter Damian   I haven't looked through the edits made by th...  
SB_Johnny   Apparently Jimmy paid them a visit, and has report...  
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melloden   For example, for all the money the WMF has gather...  
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