Sex by surprise Options

[anthony]

Assange denies the charges, which his lawyer, described as stemming from a "dispute over consensual but unprotected sex", which may constitute rape under the Swedish law.

So babymaking "may" be illegal in Sweden? Yeah right. Sounds like a spin job to me.

And yeah, I have no idea what forum this is supposed to go into.

EDIT: Oops, forgot the link.

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[A Horse With No Name]

How old are these Swedish broads, anyway? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/ermm.gif)

[Milton Roe]

How old are these Swedish broads, anyway? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/ermm.gif)

Both "in their 20's" says The Daily Mail. Presumably, in Sweden, old enough to know better. The sweet victimized ladies threw themselves at Assange when was making a speaking tour, and both of them, erm, stuck. Sucks to be them.

[anthony]

Both "in their 20's" says The Daily Mail. Presumably, in Sweden, old enough to know better. The sweet victimized ladies threw themselves at Assange when was making a speaking tour, and both of them, erm, stuck.

I read they were wearing sexy clothing too.

[Milton Roe]

Both "in their 20's" says The Daily Mail. Presumably, in Sweden, old enough to know better. The sweet victimized ladies threw themselves at Assange when was making a speaking tour, and both of them, erm, stuck.

I read they were wearing sexy clothing too.

Woman #2 took the guy home on the train to her appartment to have sex with him. Then complained that the second time they did it, he didn't use a condom. She was so upset that she cooked him breakfast. And made him promise to call her. Then when he didn't, she called the police and had him arrested in another country. All this made possible courtesy of the US government, behind the scenes pulling strings. Don't imagine not.

Now, do I need to explain the Facts of Life, here? This sex was at the end of a long trainride back home, not a long passionate kiss. It was, as they say, premeditated. If you are relying on a condom to protect you from HIV because you're having carefully planned and paid-for sex with people you just met a few hours before, then you are being stupid. The government cannot protect you from stupidity that gross, and I'm not even sure the government should try to. It sounds like more of a tort or civil damages sort of thing, at worst, in the absense of some kind of enforceable agreement. We really don't know what kind of agreements or promises were made in this case, but some things speak for themselves. In absense of reliable agreements, the general common law is that you get what you ask for, as is, and there is not necessarily a guarantee on all items, just because you think there should be. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/hrmph.gif)

You know, in my day we walked ten miles through the snow to school, and the TV was black and white. And when we met somebody new, we sometimes had to wait for days and days for the antibody enzyme immunoassay blood test to come back, before we could give our passion full reign. That took iron determination, I tell you, as there was no rapid SUDS HIV Test. But it was Victorian Times, and we did as expected.

This young generation, these days, with their dang antiretrovirals, are all going straight to the devil, I tell you. I wouldn't give a dental dam for most of 'em. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/oldtimer.gif)

[anthony]

Woman #2 took the guy home on the train to her appartment to have sex with him. Then complained that the second time they did it, he didn't use a condom. She was so upset that she cooked him breakfast. And made him promise to call her. Then when he didn't, she called the police and had him arrested in another country. All this made possible courtesy of the US government, behind the scenes pulling strings. Don't imagine not.

Now, do I need to explain the Facts of Life, here? This sex was at the end of a long trainride back home, not a long passionate kiss. It was, as they say, premeditated. If you are relying on a condom to protect you from HIV because you're having carefully planned and paid-for sex with people you just met a few hours before, then you are being stupid. The government cannot protect you from stupidity that gross, and I'm not even sure the government should try to. It sounds like more of a tort or civil damages sort of thing, at worst, in the absense of some kind of enforceable agreement. We really don't know what kind of agreements or promises were made in this case, but some things speak for themselves. In absense of reliable agreements, the general common law is that you get what you ask for, as is, and there is not necessarily a guarantee on all items, just because you think there should be. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/hrmph.gif)

Maybe I'm just dense, but I have no idea what you're talking about. I thought the details of what happened were disputed.

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[Milton Roe]

Woman #2 took the guy home on the train to her appartment to have sex with him. Then complained that the second time they did it, he didn't use a condom. She was so upset that she cooked him breakfast. And made him promise to call her. Then when he didn't, she called the police and had him arrested in another country. All this made possible courtesy of the US government, behind the scenes pulling strings. Don't imagine not.

Now, do I need to explain the Facts of Life, here? This sex was at the end of a long trainride back home, not a long passionate kiss. It was, as they say, premeditated. If you are relying on a condom to protect you from HIV because you're having carefully planned and paid-for sex with people you just met a few hours before, then you are being stupid. The government cannot protect you from stupidity that gross, and I'm not even sure the government should try to. It sounds like more of a tort or civil damages sort of thing, at worst, in the absense of some kind of enforceable agreement. We really don't know what kind of agreements or promises were made in this case, but some things speak for themselves. In absense of reliable agreements, the general common law is that you get what you ask for, as is, and there is not necessarily a guarantee on all items, just because you think there should be. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/hrmph.gif)

Maybe I'm just dense, but I have no idea what you're talking about.

Link is given in the posts above. And if that doesn't help, then don't know what YOU'RE talking about. I thought you were satirizing rape defenses that suggest a woman was "asking for it." Well, sometimes people ask for it.

[anthony]

And if that doesn't help, then don't know what YOU'RE talking about. I thought you were satirizing rape defenses that suggest a woman was "asking for it." Well, sometimes people ask for it.

Sometimes people ask for what, exactly?

What I'm talking about is that a woman "throwing herself" at a man doesn't justify the man raping her.

[Milton Roe]

And if that doesn't help, then don't know what YOU'RE talking about. I thought you were satirizing rape defenses that suggest a woman was "asking for it." Well, sometimes people ask for it.

Sometimes people ask for what, exactly?

What I'm talking about is that a woman "throwing herself" at a man doesn't justify the man raping her.

I'm curious as to when you assume that consent is "automatically" withdrawn when a man and woman climb into bed to have consensual sex. Presuming nobody ever says "no" or "stop."

In any case, this is not a rape case, as rape has not been alleged by anybody. That is a fact.

And if that doesn't help, then don't know what YOU'RE talking about. I thought you were satirizing rape defenses that suggest a woman was "asking for it." Well, sometimes people ask for it.

Sometimes people ask for what, exactly?

What I'm talking about is that a woman "throwing herself" at a man doesn't justify the man raping her.

Somebody is just getting nervous about those young girls at Burning Man.

Shows how little you know about Burning Man. But enjoy your ignorance.

[GlassBeadGame]

Shows how little you know about Burning Man. But enjoy your ignorance.

Oh yeah man, it was like... spiritual.