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> Scientizzle destroys Wikipedia!!, ... single-handedly!
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I have to say, that was kinda awe-inspiring.

Admin Scientizzle caused sheer mayhem and shut down Wikipedia for 90 minutes by deleting the Sandbox.. It was the longest 90 minutes of my entire, rather sad life. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif)
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QUOTE(Alison @ Wed 16th January 2008, 3:51pm) *

I have to say, that was kinda awe-inspiring.

Admin Scientizzle caused sheer mayhem and shut down Wikipedia for 90 minutes by deleting the Sandbox.... It was the longest 90 minutes of my entire, rather sad life. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif)


Ooh, not even Ed Poor could have topped that. Did it come back by itself or did it require Developer intervention?


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QUOTE(Castle Rock @ Wed 16th January 2008, 3:53pm) *

QUOTE(Alison @ Wed 16th January 2008, 3:51pm) *

I have to say, that was kinda awe-inspiring.

Admin Scientizzle caused sheer mayhem and shut down Wikipedia for 90 minutes by deleting the Sandbox.... It was the longest 90 minutes of my entire, rather sad life. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif)


Ooh, not even Ed Poor could have topped that. Did it come back by itself or did it require Developer intervention?


Brion had to get involved. Apparently, now there's a revisions cap of 5,000 entries on deleting files.
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One wonders how many other sectors of the data base are similar single points of failure.
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Only a few hours before that, Ike9898's account was compromised, and the resulting mischief caused "the database servers to lock up while they caught up and the whole site went into read-only mode":

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# 05:58, 16 January 2008 Ike9898 (Talk | contribs) protected Atheism ‎ (exploits [create=sysop])
# 05:54, 16 January 2008 Ike9898 (Talk | contribs) deleted "Atheism" ‎ (CSD A7: Article about subject that does not assert significance.)
# 05:44, 16 January 2008 Ike9898 (Talk | contribs) unblocked Willy on wheels (Talk | contribs) ‎ (test)
# 05:42, 16 January 2008 Ike9898 (Talk | contribs) unprotected Main Page ‎ (will reprotect in a minute)
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I'm trying to understand why this would have such a profound effect. Is it because The Sandbox has an extraordinary number of edits in it's history? When you delete something are you actually moving data from one area to another in the database? Could someone please explain?
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I'm trying to understand why this would have such a profound effect. Is it because The Sandbox has an extraordinary number of edits in it's history? When you delete something are you actually moving data from one area to another in the database? Could someone please explain?


Yes - it's the massive edit history. The servers basically get bogged down marking every single revision as deleted. From what I can see, the guy was doing a delete-to-selectively-restore (so-called "admin oversight") to remove source-code to a virus that someone else posted about the place. Either way, the poor guy is both embarrassed and laughing right now ....

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Large software sites lurch along from one crisis to the next.
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QUOTE(Alison @ Wed 16th January 2008, 7:32pm) *

QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Wed 16th January 2008, 4:26pm) *

I'm trying to understand why this would have such a profound effect. Is it because The Sandbox has an extraordinary number of edits in it's history? When you delete something are you actually moving data from one area to another in the database? Could someone please explain?


Yes - it's the massive edit history. The servers basically get bogged down marking every single revision as deleted. From what I can see, the guy was doing a delete-to-selectively-restore (so-called "admin oversight") to remove source-code to a virus that someone else posted about the place. Either way, the poor guy is both embarrassed and laughing right now ....


Thanks, Alison.
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QUOTE(Alison @ Wed 16th January 2008, 11:51pm) *

I have to say, that was kinda awe-inspiring.

Admin Scientizzle caused sheer mayhem and shut down Wikipedia for 90 minutes by deleting the Sandbox... It was the longest 90 minutes of my entire, rather sad life. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif)


I thought an admin called Laurence-something did it? And at one point they thought Something Awful forum members were involved.
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QUOTE(Alison @ Wed 16th January 2008, 11:51pm) *

I have to say, that was kinda awe-inspiring.

Admin Scientizzle caused sheer mayhem and shut down Wikipedia for 90 minutes by deleting the Sandbox.... It was the longest 90 minutes of my entire, rather sad life. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif)


I thought an admin called Laurence-something did it? And at one point they thought Something Awful forum members were involved.


That was a different event. A sysop account got compromised, unblocked the mainpage and deleted the "atheism" article. Tarantino mentions it above.
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We all know the truth, Alison tried to blow up Wikipedia and almost succeeded..

and she would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those meddling kids and their dog!
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The mainpage is now mightily difficult to unprotect now, it is cascade protected from 10 different pages so you would have to unprotect all of them at once, before someone noticed.
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QUOTE(SirFozzie @ Wed 16th January 2008, 5:18pm) *

We all know the truth, Alison tried to blow up Wikipedia and almost succeeded..

and she would have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those meddling kids and their dog!

(IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/ohmy.gif)

... Foz reaches over and tears off the rubber mask

*gasp!!* "And all along it was .... Mr. Wales!!!"


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This is what 5000 revisions look like:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...&action=history

(warning browser lockup occured for a while loading that)
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QUOTE(Viridae @ Wed 16th January 2008, 5:18pm) *

The mainpage is now mightily difficult to unprotect now, it is cascade protected from 10 different pages so you would have to unprotect all of them at once, before someone noticed.

Ah yes the Hierarchs have imposed new protections. All ten seals must be broken before the true prize can be claimed!
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That only goes back to september last year. Is there a way I can work out how many revisions there are?

edit: Having a go at loading 20000 revisions. My browser is not liking it very much. In fact it liked it so little it only gave me 2 extra days of revisions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...&action=history

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That only goes back to september last year. Is there a way I can work out how many revisions there are?

edit: Having a go at loading 20000 revisions. My browser is not liking it very much. In fact it liked it so little it only gave me 2 extra days of revisions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...&action=history


The maximum revisions you can get on a single page is 5000, no matter what you set &limit= to.
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QUOTE(Viridae @ Thu 17th January 2008, 1:37am) *

That only goes back to september last year. Is there a way I can work out how many revisions there are?

edit: Having a go at loading 20000 revisions. My browser is not liking it very much. In fact it liked it so little it only gave me 2 extra days of revisions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...&action=history


The maximum revisions you can get on a single page is 5000, no matter what you set &limit= to.


Yes, I worked that out.
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QUOTE(Alison @ Wed 16th January 2008, 6:57pm) *

Brion had to get involved. Apparently, now there's a revisions cap of 5,000 entries on deleting files.


Does this mean that articles with more than 5,000 revisions are undeleteable, or does it mean the "Delete" key will only affect the most recent 5,000 revisions on said article?

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