David Gerard, Not that there's anything wrong with that! Options

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I have no doubt that David Gerard would love to get to know Taxwoman, even if another director might not approve. However, will he argue that Taxwoman hasn't edited for the last few months?

LoL Veesicle just sacrificed his year old account to place An editor has expressed a concern that this user may be a sock puppet of WordBomb. tag on David Gerard's user page. JzG swoops in for the kill saying I have blocked you for abject stupidity. It's kind of hard to imagine what else you would have wanted, given that edit., but Veesicle just laughs and laughs.

The extreme irony of the situation is that I happen to be the editor with the concern. Given that fact, what Veesicle did was 100% accurate. I hereby demand that his account be returned to him.

Lol I just checked up on this, and the guy was unblocked by Viridae, then reblocked by JoshuaZ for 24 hours, inspiring a thread on ANI, and then just a little while after the block expired Jpgordon flew by to block him for 'abusive sockpuppetry'. That's a pretty friendly block log

One of the interesting things about these checkuser blocks we see so frequently is that all too often they don't reveal which accounts the socks are assumed to be - "Just trust me! I'm a checkuser!". I wonder how many of these people are actually sockpuppeting, and how many have been taken down by a checkuser who's bored.

This post has been edited by KamrynMatika: Sat 17th November 2007, 5:22pm

"Just trust me! I'm a checkuser!"

DG has to be the most tasteless goth i've ever seen (not his outfit but friends), ick.
his wife looks like a retarded wale and girlfriend like a wrinkled nazi librarian.

he just looks silly but is still the least scary in the pic which is saying something when you've seen the famous "mime" photo o-o

i know, offtopic, but I just had to comment..

I always assume that it's a good thing that people like this get together and form couples...I mean, that way, they are not making two other people unhappy. The fact that they are a threesome makes it even more people-friendly....

I'm going to have to dissent; Arkady may not be my definition of perfection, but I certainly wouldn't call her ugly. Your hatred of Wikipedia has, to a very real degree, blinded you.

DG has to be the most tasteless goth i've ever seen (not his outfit but friends), ick.
his wife looks like a retarded wale and girlfriend like a wrinkled nazi librarian.

he just looks silly but is still the least scary in the pic which is saying something when you've seen the famous "mime" photo o-o

i know, offtopic, but I just had to comment..

I always assume that it's a good thing that people like this get together and form couples...I mean, that way, they are not making two other people unhappy. The fact that they are a threesome makes it even more people-friendly....

I'm going to have to dissent; Arkady may not be my definition of perfection, but I certainly wouldn't call her ugly. Your hatred of Wikipedia has, to a very real degree, blinded you.

My comment was not about the general beauty of any of the parties (I personally find them all equally unattractive, but there's no accounting for taste, is there?) but was more towards "those who favor "open" relationships" are better off living together than with those who are not". In any case, threesomes generally end badly, with almost always one point of the triangle ending up being left out of the other two sides.

In this case, I would hope that the two ladies would do the sensible thing and leave him to go live together in peace...

This post has been edited by the fieryangel: Sat 17th November 2007, 7:43pm

In this case, I would hope that the two ladies would do the sensible thing and leave him to go live together in peace...

That's the female response. Most men wonder how he did it and either find him a genius or are envious.

Not that it makes sense, mind you, given the man in question, but that's a man's point of view.

I don't like that they criticized the woman's figure. She never did (to my knowledge) anything to deserve that.

This post has been edited by Disillusioned Lackey: Sun 18th November 2007, 1:20am

DG has to be the most tasteless goth i've ever seen (not his outfit but friends), ick.
his wife looks like a retarded wale and girlfriend like a wrinkled nazi librarian.

he just looks silly but is still the least scary in the pic which is saying something when you've seen the famous "mime" photo o-o

i know, offtopic, but I just had to comment..

I always assume that it's a good thing that people like this get together and form couples...I mean, that way, they are not making two other people unhappy. The fact that they are a threesome makes it even more people-friendly....

I'm going to have to dissent; Arkady may not be my definition of perfection, but I certainly wouldn't call her ugly. Your hatred of Wikipedia has, to a very real degree, blinded you.

but I don't hate wikipedia, i have never ever said I hate wikipedia o_O I also dont hate david gerard like I said...

read my posts after that, I was just being honest...

That's the female response. Most men wonder how he did it and either find him a genius or are envious.

Umm I believe the reason that David has a girlfriend and a wife are for illness reasons not any super studness on Mr Gerard's part.

Umm I believe the reason that David has a girlfriend and a wife are for illness reasons not any super studness on Mr Gerard\'s part.

Yes, his wife\'s too ill to object, or something.

Umm I believe the reason that David has a girlfriend and a wife are for illness reasons not any super studness on Mr Gerard\'s part.

Yes, his wife's too ill to object, or something.

Haaahaaaahahahaha

That's the female response.

Is it really?

That's very interesting.

That's the female response.

Is it really?

That's very interesting.

No offense intended. If you think David Gerard is a hottie , and deserves a throng of subservient females to do his bidding, then okfinewhateveryouwant. (disclaimer:this post was a joke, and in no way was intended to imply insult to your senses or sensibilities or taste in men)

That's the female response.

Is it really?

That's very interesting.

No offense intended. If you think David Gerard is a hottie , and deserves a throng of subservient females to do his bidding, then okfinewhateveryouwant. (disclaimer:this post was a joke, and in no way was intended to imply insult to your senses or sensibilities or taste in men)

What I was saying is that it's interesting that saying that the two women should go off together was the female response and that saying that it's admirable that he should be able to keep two women was the male response.

I'm curious why this would be so (and this is not meant to provoke an argument: I really am curious about such things), especially given Mr. Gerard's own very complex sexual persona in all of this.

I don't really see a sexual aspect in either response. As a matter of fact, I believe that some women (including maybe some women here) might be inclined to take the "Good for him!" approach and some men (including perhaps some men here) who might be opposed to this for moral, personal, or life experience reasons and might have the so-called "feminine" response.

In any case, we'll never know, since nobody can definitely know what sex anyone is here...I've been rather startled myself several times here when it's been made clear by a casual response that the "lady" with whom I supposed that I was speaking was actually a "gentleman" and vice versa....

It seems to me that the main drama-generator here is indeed Mr. Gerald, at least from what I've seen of him. The two ladies might have a much more peaceful co-existence without him....

This post has been edited by the fieryangel: Mon 19th November 2007, 2:30pm

If there is a gender bias, it might be that males tend to be marginally more competitive in their relationships, whereas females tend to be marginally more cooperative in theirs.

If the sociology of Bonobos can be taken as a guide, the cooperating females can collectively dominate and confound the competitive males.

If there is a gender bias, it might be that males tend to be marginally more competitive in their relationships, whereas females tend to be marginally more cooperative in theirs.

If the sociology of Bonobos can be taken as a guide, the cooperating females can collectively dominate and confound the competitive males.

You've got that right! Having seen first-hand what happens when you set up households where one man has several wives (in parts of Africa...and also in Europe when they immigrate), the man very quickly loses the upper hand and ends up spending most of his time outside of the house, which is the only place where he can get a little peace and quiet. So, anybody's who's dreaming about this, you can stop right now. It doesn't work the way you think it does.

Maybe the two ladies actually set this up? Anything is possible

What I was saying is that it's interesting that saying that the two women should go off together was the female response and that saying that it's admirable that he should be able to keep two women was the male response.

Women traditionally cooperate in groups in the context of teams, or groups, better than men (though men get training through sports for this). Men are more individualistic, as a rule. Women's ability to cooperate does not translate to sharing a man. On the contrary. Also, women compete via infighting and vicious psychological means. Men generally just hit and then get over it. That's a simple way of explaining a pretty complex topic.

Multi-wife marriages often have women bossing around the men, sure. Just that the women I've talked to in polygamous cultures seemed less than thrilled with the idea of sharing a husband. It is, in one country I spent time in, difficult to get a nice, pretty, educated woman to agree to be a 2nd wife. One woman (wife of a colleague) found out that her fiancee was already married at her first engagement, and expected her to be wifey no. 2. She ended it the next day, and got married to someone else two years later. Man, she was not happy about that story. Furious actually. This is kind of private, scandalous information, but I was a guest of honor at their wedding, so that's how I heard about it.

Maybe some women think it is fine. I've just never seen it, that's all (excluding people who marry for money, etc. which is another line of discussion). What I'm told is that it is more common practice for poorer women, or the very, very richest of the royals. (Where, incidentally, women have seemingly less power than educated upper middle class women).

All gender generalizations (or any generalizations) can be ripped apart anecdotally. As for alternative genders, etc. None of the gay or bi people I know fit in any box at all, so I dont even go there. Other than to say that jealousy and competition and relationship dynamics don't seem that different (to me) in non-hetero relationships.

This post has been edited by Disillusioned Lackey: Mon 19th November 2007, 7:26pm

Maybe the two ladies actually set this up? Anything is possible

Set what up? David Gerard's wife developed a disabling illness after they were married. Therefore she accepted him having a girlfriend.

You've got that right! Having seen first-hand what happens when you set up households where one man has several wives (in parts of Africa...and also in Europe when they immigrate),

I've been told by more than one African mn that he wasn't interested in more than one wife (spontaneously volunteered information), because they grew up with two mothers, and they didn't like how one mother treated the kids that weren't hers, or that it was a constant fight for Dad's attention between the moms. Also that it is very expensive.

the man very quickly loses the upper hand and ends up spending most of his time outside of the house,

I've seen quite a few ME homes where the mom wears a scarf and is quite the household power broker, which belies the stereotype that scarf equals subserviance. On the contrary. Still, no wife of anyone I worked with, or married woman I've worked with, in these countries was in a polygamous marriage. That's my experience. I was told that it was for poor people, and for the Gulf Royals. (more spontaneously volunteered information. I didn't ask).

Maybe the two ladies actually set this up? Anything is possible

Relationship are always unique creations, even non-polygamous/polyandrous ones.

This post has been edited by Disillusioned Lackey: Mon 19th November 2007, 7:23pm

(more spontaneously volunteered information. I didn't ask).

Yes, you seem to get told quite a lot when you visit those kinds of places, including some things that you would never dream of asking. Your story of the woman who found out that she was wife no. 2 after the fact is fascinating. I remember reading a novella by an Algerian writer about a marriage broker who talks a man out of taking a second wife because she knews all of the family secrets. It seems that women in those culture have much more power than it would seem at first glance.

Maybe the two ladies actually set this up? Anything is possible

Relationship are always unique creations, even non-polygamous/polyandrous ones.

One never can tell how a relationship works unless one is on the inside of it. If it works for them, then more power to them.

If DG's wife allowed him to take on a live-in girlfriend after their marriage because of her illness, surely she had something to say about it? I would hope so, at least.

This post has been edited by the fieryangel: Mon 19th November 2007, 8:52pm

It seems that women in those culture have much more power than it would seem at first glance.

That's because in western culture, wearing a scarf is automatically correlated with oppression. While this can be the case, wearing the hijab et al can also connotate religious modesty and conserving view of females to the privacy of the family only. It also can command great respect on the part of the menfolk. Mores for this differ by country to country, even in the ME.

I think the relative 'bossiness' of the woman in the relationship depends on the woman (and relationship) in question.

Set what up? David Gerard's wife developed a disabling illness after they were married. Therefore she accepted him having a girlfriend.

Then why is the girlfriend in the picture of DG getting married? Not that it matters, but j wondering.


This post has been edited by Disillusioned Lackey: Tue 20th November 2007, 4:21am