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Which admins would you like to see on Daniel Brandt's Hivemind?
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Which admins would you like to see on Daniel Brandt's Hivemind?

None. The site lacks ethical integrity.
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Which admins would you like to see on Daniel Brandt's Hivemind?

None. The site lacks ethical integrity.

Agreed. It's lost it's original "unmasking the abusive admins who hide behind anonymity while abusing the privacy of others" purpose (WR itself does that considerably more efficiently) and has just become "list of people Daniel doesn't like".
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Strange, the Hive Mind has been removed from Google search.

It's still #1 with Yahoo! and with Bing, though.

Anyway, I'll bite.

The admins whom I think ought to be exposed are:

KnightLago

Fram

Ryulong

Crum375

Orlady (basically because I know who she is, and "your tax dollars at work" comes to mind)

Pschemp

East718

Cirt

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It's lost it's original...


Contraction. Possessive. It's not that difficult, folks.
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Contraction. Possessive. It's not that difficult, folks.

His, hers, yours and its
have no apostrophes or other bits.
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The admins whom I think ought to be exposed are:

Pschemp



Why, what did she do? A few years ago, her frequent meltdowns were amusing, but she seems pretty demure these days.

Her name is Patricia Schempp, she's on Facebook.
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The admins whom I think ought to be exposed are:

Pschemp



Why, what did she do? A few years ago, her frequent meltdowns were amusing, but she seems pretty demure these days.

Her name is Patricia Schempp, she's on Facebook.


This gives you a flavor of her dismissive hurtfulness.

And here she was trying to scuttle my run for Arb Com.

Here's where she started to turn the corner for me, though.

I just remember her own posting of her field hockey photo, and she looked feisty. Of course, somehow that photo got oversighted, since some information doesn't want to be as free as other information. She'd be a good addition to the Hive Mind.

EDIT:
Oh, there was one other classic moment with Pschemp. As a ruse, I put the wikitext of the Aaron's, Inc. article from Wikipedia onto my early paid-editing Wikipedia Review site. That made it look like Aaron's was possibly a paying client of mine. (Of course, they weren't.)

The test worked flawlessly, leading Pschemp (who was snooping around my site to try to "catch" paid editing clients) to nominate the article for deletion. Look at the result, for a chuckle.

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QUOTE(Rick @ Wed 21st July 2010, 5:10am) *

Which admins would you like to see on Daniel Brandt's Hivemind?



All of them, without stigma and without any means of "negotiating" removal. Just a directory of the IRL identities of all (as many as can be found) WP admins.
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The admin AniMate -- who was last seen calling "A Nobody" nasty names on the latter's Wikia page -- is an animator named Daniel Ross (his real name was his former WP handle). However, I don't know if there is any confirmed photo of him online.
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Which admins would you like to see on Daniel Brandt's Hivemind?


All of them, without stigma and without any means of "negotiating" removal. Just a directory of the IRL identities of all (as many as can be found) WP admins.


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Too many to name. Some that come to mind (not sure if they are all admins).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Fram Belgian comic addict and dickhead
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Beeblbrox arse
User:PeterSymonds fat idiot
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Toddst1 limp-willied toad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Orangemike fat useless hippy
User:SarekOfVulcan obnoxious little stoat

+ Any admin who opposed this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Com...e-adminship/RfC

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I tend to agree with Eva Destruction. Hivemind is basically Daniel's playground for getting back at admins - and editors, and anyone associated with Wikipedia - he doesn't like.

I'd like to see all admins act appropriately and not abuse their position. "Outing" them probably won't make them suddenly change their ways.

It might be a game to some, but most people just want to get on with it without abuse from cranks.
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QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Wed 21st July 2010, 7:08am) *

It's lost it's original...


Contraction. Possessive. It's not that difficult, folks.


Nobody likes a nitpicker.
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User:PeterSymonds fat idiot


I asked Brandt about this -- he said that Peter's ID is no secret (his real name is in his WP handle and he is on Facebook for all the world to see). It makes sense -- the Hiveminded crowd were mostly hiding behind pseudonyms, with only a couple of exceptions.
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It makes sense -- the Hiveminded crowd were mostly hiding behind pseudonyms, with only a couple of exceptions.

Yes, it must have been quite a coup finding the real identities of Jimbo Wales, Brad Patrick (still second on the list though he resigned over three years ago), David Gerard, Angela (Beesley), Tim Starling, Fred Bauder ...
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I don't know if Daniel posts here anymore, but is he aware of this?

http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Brandt

http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Brandt

It's unfortunate that he can't get the Foundation to delete any article about him from all their projects. Wikipedia is going to haunt him forever. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unhappy.gif)
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I don't know if Daniel posts here anymore, but is he aware of this?

http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Brandt

http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Brandt

The Spanish one is only two lines, says virtually nothing, and is untouched since 2007. Daniel need lose no sleep at all over it. The Polish one is much more substantial, complete with 15 references. I suspect it's a translation of some version of the English article. Any Polish speakers about?
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I don't know if Daniel posts here anymore, but is he aware of this?

http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Brandt

http://eo.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Brandt

The Spanish one is only two lines, says virtually nothing, and is untouched since 2007. Daniel need lose no sleep at all over it. The Polish one is much more substantial, complete with 15 references. I suspect it's a translation of some version of the English article. Any Polish speakers about?


According to Google (ironically):

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...cial%26prmd%3Do

Edit: Oh, and the Vikipedio one is Esperanto, not Spanish. Funny, I didn't know anyone spoke Esperanto anymore.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto_Wikipedia

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It is a little difficult to get in touch with Daniel to offer updates to the list.

I cannot think of any "good guys" that I would want to protect. I can think of a lot of idiots I think should be on the list and connected to their real life identities ... but then I think all Pee-dia accounts should be.
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Yes, it must have been quite a coup finding the real identities of Jimbo Wales, Brad Patrick (still second on the list though he resigned over three years ago), David Gerard, Angela (Beesley), Tim Starling, Fred Bauder ...


Yuk yuk yuk! I'm talking about dusting the cobwebs off Risker, popping Ballooman's facade, combing back Protonk's hair, putting Chase Me Ladies into uniform, showing some skin with Coren, that sort of stuff.

My only regret on Hivemind is that we don't get any upper torso pix of Kat Walsh. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Pastor Theo would make a nice addtion to the Hive.
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Pastor Theo would make a nice addtion to the Hive.


He ain't an admin! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wink.gif)

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Pastor Theo would make a nice addtion to the Hive.


He's a former admin, however, and he's never messed with Brandt or a BLP subject to meet Hivemind criteria.
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QUOTE(The Joy @ Wed 21st July 2010, 9:59pm) *

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Pastor Theo would make a nice addtion to the Hive.


He's a former admin, however, and he's never messed with Brandt or a BLP subject to meet Hivemind criteria.


Just like many people on that list.

P.S. Why is this in the Annex? Seriously, wtf? Since when would shit like this be discussed on Wikipedia? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wacko.gif)
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All of them, without stigma and without any means of "negotiating" removal. Just a directory of the IRL identities of all (as many as can be found) WP admins.

Makes perfect sense to me. Actually, if all the admins receive the same treatment it becomes more of a "change the culture" thing as opposed to a "don't piss Daniel off" thing.

I doubt Daniel would go for it, though.
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QUOTE(The Joy @ Wed 21st July 2010, 9:59pm) *

QUOTE(Zoloft @ Wed 21st July 2010, 4:49pm) *

Pastor Theo would make a nice addtion to the Hive.


He's a former admin, however, and he's never messed with Brandt or a BLP subject to meet Hivemind criteria.


Just like many people on that list.

P.S. Why is this in the Annex? Seriously, wtf? Since when would shit like this be discussed on Wikipedia? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wacko.gif)


Pastor Theo never pissed off Daniel. If you pissed Daniel off, you get on the list.
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QUOTE(The Joy @ Wed 21st July 2010, 9:59pm) *

QUOTE(Zoloft @ Wed 21st July 2010, 4:49pm) *

Pastor Theo would make a nice addtion to the Hive.


He's a former admin, however, and he's never messed with Brandt or a BLP subject to meet Hivemind criteria.


Just like many people on that list.

P.S. Why is this in the Annex? Seriously, wtf? Since when would shit like this be discussed on Wikipedia? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wacko.gif)


Pastor Theo never pissed off Daniel. If you pissed Daniel off, you get on the list.

If you hold a mirror up to something, it sheds light and a visage. I feel positively Moultonish.
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If you hold a mirror up to something, it sheds light and a visage. I feel positively Moultonish.


Try an enema - you will feel like a new man. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif)
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If you hold a mirror up to something, it sheds light and a visage. I feel positively Moultonish.


Try an enema - you will feel like a new man. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif)


Color me vexed and perplexed! Uffda! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/ohmy.gif)
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QUOTE(Rick @ Wed 21st July 2010, 6:10am) *
Which admins would you like to see on Daniel Brandt's Hivemind?

None. The site lacks ethical integrity.

Agreed. It's lost it's original "unmasking the abusive admins who hide behind anonymity while abusing the privacy of others" purpose (WR itself does that considerably more efficiently) and has just become "list of people Daniel doesn't like".


This.


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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Wed 21st July 2010, 8:24pm) *

It makes sense -- the Hiveminded crowd were mostly hiding behind pseudonyms, with only a couple of exceptions.

Yes, it must have been quite a coup finding the real identities of Jimbo Wales, Brad Patrick (still second on the list though he resigned over three years ago), David Gerard, Angela (Beesley), Tim Starling, Fred Bauder ...


(IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif)

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Pastor Theo never pissed off Daniel. If you pissed Daniel off, you get on the list.

If you hold a mirror up to something, it sheds light and a visage. I feel positively Moultonish.



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It's a strange feeling when one cannot understand one's own fan club.


I didn't get it either.

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It's a strange feeling when one cannot understand one's own fan club.
I didn't get it either.

Uffda. Color us both vexed and perplexed.
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QUOTE(The Joy @ Wed 21st July 2010, 9:30pm) *

According to Google (ironically):

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=e...cial%26prmd%3Do

Edit: Oh, and the Vikipedio one is Esperanto, not Spanish. Funny, I didn't know anyone spoke Esperanto anymore.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto_Wikipedia

Well the Polish one doesn't look too bad; it puts Daniel in a reasonably favourable light. I think I remember much worse stuff in the English version. And as for Esperanto, no doubt there are Wikipedia enthusiasts who've learnt it specially so there can be yet another glorious Wikipedia.

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Yuk yuk yuk! I'm talking about dusting the cobwebs off Risker, popping Ballooman's facade, combing back Protonk's hair, putting Chase Me Ladies into uniform, showing some skin with Coren, that sort of stuff.

No doubt Daniel's outed lots of people. However, considering the alleged reason for Hivemind thare are far too many people on it who have never hidden their identities. Also, people should come off it once they cease to be active admins.
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No doubt Daniel's outed lots of people. However, considering the alleged reason for Hivemind thare are far too many people on it who have never hidden their identities. Also, people should come off it once they cease to be active admins.

Daniel took me off Hivemind some months back. I'm not sure why, but he did. I'm basically retired from all that now (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/mellow.gif)
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I didn't get it either.

Uffda. Color us both vexed and perplexed.

I inadvertently have that effect on a number of people. Gomen nasai, Sensei.
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Admins that I myself would like to see on Hivemind:

Luna Santin
Tiptoety
Daniel Case
Heimstern Läufer
KieferSkunk
Jéské Couriano (not sure if he qualifies, though, since he is no longer an admin)
FisherQueen
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Admins that I myself would like to see on Hivemind:

Luna Santin
Tiptoety
Daniel Case
Heimstern Läufer
KieferSkunk
Jéské Couriano (not sure if he qualifies, though, since he is no longer an admin)
FisherQueen
Soxred93
MuZemike
Smashville



I love how Wikipedians carry around little tablets to keep track of all their little pay backs. It is like a bunch of Nixons.
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Daniel took me off Hivemind some months back. I'm not sure why, but he did.

I don't suppose it was as a result of my song parody?
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Which admins would you like to see on Daniel Brandt's Hivemind?

None. The site lacks ethical integrity.

Agreed. It's lost it's original "unmasking the abusive admins who hide behind anonymity while abusing the privacy of others" purpose (WR itself does that considerably more efficiently) and has just become "list of people Daniel doesn't like".


Triple agree on this, particularly since it gets shit wrong thus associating innocent people with some not so innocent people.
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