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I hate this no lifer Wikipedo. She is basically a grouchy old lady who has her gang of friends and looks upon everyone else as if they are not even human. She complains constantly about uncivil and npa violateing editors while being grossly uncivil and making personal attacksherself. Oh I wish someone would nominate her for adminship so we could watch the RFA go down in flames. Oh, the way she thinks everyone who disagrees with her. Whenever she supports an RFA she complains that the opposers have a combined iq far below that of the average chimp. Whenever she opposes (aka 99% of the time) she complains that the supporters are immature and myspacey elementary school childrenwho care about nothing but their signatures. And she seemsto think that her (often the only) oppose vote has the power to cancel out overwhelming support of an RFA candidate. Even though she isn't an admin she has more clout than most admins because she bullies other, especially newer/younger editors (the so called "immature MYSPAce sigs") into agreeing with her no matter how retarded her stance is. Hell, I've seen her oppose RFA candidates based on one of their first edits that theymade many months ago. As well as her opinion that admin "misbehavior" is grounds to tolerate trolling by a longtime
Troll. When supertroll "The Fat Man Who Never Came Back" posted a rant aimed at wikitard "HalfShadow" containing slurs, profanity, and threats ofviolence, halfshadow unsurprisily was upset and then sandy completely ignored the rant and berated HalfShadow for threading his response incorrectly. She manipulates WP rules to her own advantage. I really do wonder how many goodfaith newbies she has driven away from WP. She is just one more Wikipedo that the encyclopedia is better without.
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I must say though it is funny to watch her whine and complain incessantly until she gets her way
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QUOTE(Ottava @ Fri 17th December 2010, 6:35pm)  I think she is nice. I do miss her. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) Ottava, I definitely respect your opinion, I havenothing against SandyGeorgia's supporters (except for the ones who follow her everywhere she goes and loudly complain about anyone who disagrees with or criticizes her). But I must say, wouldn't you feel discouraged if you made a few thousand edits over a few months, and then mistakenly filed a premature RfA (in good faith actually wanting to help, not talking about the power hungry newbies who make 3 or 4 notnow RFAs just a few days apart), and within a few minutes of it being posted, inthe midst of the moral supports and WP:SNOW/WP:NOTNOW opposes/neutrals, someone came in with a long wall of diffs pointing out every little mistake you've ever made, especially within your first few edits, and then went on to complain about you being a perfect example of why RFA is a mess as well as berating the moral supporters and calling them immature or "about half as intelligent as a typical chimp after combining their IQs"? (not an exact SG quote AFAIK but she has said many, many things along those lines)? I respect your opinion but I hope you understand my point of view. |
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QUOTE(I wish to remain anonymous @ Sat 18th December 2010, 3:47am) QUOTE(Ottava @ Fri 17th December 2010, 6:35pm) I think she is nice. I do miss her. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) Ottava, I definitely respect your opinion, I havenothing against SandyGeorgia's supporters (except for the ones who follow her everywhere she goes and loudly complain about anyone who disagrees with or criticizes her). But I must say, wouldn't you feel discouraged if you made a few thousand edits over a few months, and then mistakenly filed a premature RfA (in good faith actually wanting to help, not talking about the power hungry newbies who make 3 or 4 notnow RFAs just a few days apart), and within a few minutes of it being posted, inthe midst of the moral supports and WP:SNOW/WP:NOTNOW opposes/neutrals, someone came in with a long wall of diffs pointing out every little mistake you've ever made, especially within your first few edits, and then went on to complain about you being a perfect example of why RFA is a mess as well as berating the moral supporters and calling them immature or "about half as intelligent as a typical chimp after combining their IQs"? (not an exact SG quote AFAIK but she has said many, many things along those lines)? I respect your opinion but I hope you understand my point of view. Stop whining, n00b. Your pathetic attempt at hiding your identity and your sorry attitude isn't even worth a laugh. |
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QUOTE(I wish to remain anonymous @ Fri 17th December 2010, 7:47pm)
But I must say, wouldn't you feel discouraged if you made a few thousand edits over a few months, and then mistakenly filed a premature RfA (in good faith actually wanting to help, not talking about the power hungry newbies who make 3 or 4 notnow RFAs just a few days apart), and within a few minutes of it being posted, inthe midst of the moral supports and WP:SNOW/WP:NOTNOW opposes/neutrals, someone came in with a long wall of diffs pointing out every little mistake you've ever made, especially within your first few edits, and then went on to complain about you being a perfect example of why RFA is a mess as well as berating the moral supporters and calling them immature or "about half as intelligent as a typical chimp after combining their IQs"? (not an exact SG quote AFAIK but she has said many, many things along those lines)? I respect your opinion but I hope you understand my point of view.
It appears that the actual theme of your thread is your yearning for acceptance at Wikipedia. Consequently I am inclined to move this thread to the Wikipedia Annex, a special zone which we reserve for such endeavors. I will pause to give you a chance to persuade me otherwise. In the meantime, it is possible that another moderator may proceed with the thread move. |
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QUOTE(I wish to remain anonymous @ Fri 17th December 2010, 9:33pm)
I hate this no lifer Wikipedo. She is basically a grouchy old lady who has her gang of friends and looks upon everyone else as if they are not even human. She complains constantly about uncivil and npa violateing editors while being grossly uncivil and making personal attacksherself. Oh I wish someone would nominate her for adminship so we could watch the RFA go down in flames. Oh, the way she thinks everyone who disagrees with her. Whenever she supports an RFA she complains that the opposers have a combined iq far below that of the average chimp. Whenever she opposes (aka 99% of the time) she complains that the supporters are immature and myspacey elementary school childrenwho care about nothing but their signatures. And she seemsto think that her (often the only) oppose vote has the power to cancel out overwhelming support of an RFA candidate. Even though she isn't an admin she has more clout than most admins because she bullies other, especially newer/younger editors (the so called "immature MYSPAce sigs") into agreeing with her no matter how retarded her stance is. Hell, I've seen her oppose RFA candidates based on one of their first edits that theymade many months ago. As well as her opinion that admin "misbehavior" is grounds to tolerate trolling by a longtime
Troll. When supertroll "The Fat Man Who Never Came Back" posted a rant aimed at wikitard "HalfShadow" containing slurs, profanity, and threats ofviolence, halfshadow unsurprisily was upset and then sandy completely ignored the rant and berated HalfShadow for threading his response incorrectly. She manipulates WP rules to her own advantage. I really do wonder how many goodfaith newbies she has driven away from WP. She is just one more Wikipedo that the encyclopedia is better without.
suPERtroll? Fuck you! Did you happen to notice TFMWNCB is still blocked for his super trolling? so apparently Ms. Georgia is not as influencial as you imagine. mods, banish this thread to the Annex, please |
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QUOTE(Malleus @ Sat 1st January 2011, 12:30am) QUOTE(Gruntled @ Fri 31st December 2010, 12:04pm)
This is amazing. No fewer than seven users on this site have admitted to being Sandy. Possibly some of the eight who like her may be her too. This place really is just like Wikipedia.
Disclaimer: Not that I'm suggesting that Sandy has any socks, here or on WP.
" Admitted to being Sandy" perhaps displays a biased point of view. Maybe it was just an "I'm Spartacus" effect? Or maybe the Poetlister effect? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) |
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QUOTE(Malleus @ Sat 1st January 2011, 5:30am)
"Admitted to being Sandy" perhaps displays a biased point of view. Maybe it was just an "I'm Spartacus" effect?
I thought the point of "I'm Spartacus" was to prevent Spartacus being arrested by confusing the soldiers that had come to get him. Are we to assume that hordes of people here are trying to keep Sandy's identity here a secret from the mods? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/blink.gif) |
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QUOTE(I wish to remain anonymous @ Fri 17th December 2010, 9:47pm) ...wouldn't you feel discouraged if you made a few thousand edits over a few months, and then mistakenly filed a premature RfA ... and within a few minutes of it being posted, inthe midst of the moral supports and WP:SNOW/WP:NOTNOW opposes/neutrals, someone came in with a long wall of diffs pointing out every little mistake you've ever made, especially within your first few edits, and then went on to complain about you being a perfect example of why RFA is a mess as well as berating the moral supporters and calling them immature or "about half as intelligent as a typical chimp after combining their IQs"? Not in the slightest! "All in a day's work," I'd say, and then start up another account and do it all over again. Still, I fear we may have treated Mr. Wish somewhat badly after his first handful of posts here. I'd suggest that we send him some homemade cookies or something, but for that we'd need his street address, which I'm guessing (by his member name) he doesn't want to divulge. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif) |
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QUOTE(Malleus @ Tue 4th January 2011, 12:19am) QUOTE(Detective @ Mon 3rd January 2011, 5:48pm) QUOTE(Malleus @ Sat 1st January 2011, 5:30am)
"Admitted to being Sandy" perhaps displays a biased point of view. Maybe it was just an "I'm Spartacus" effect?
I thought the point of "I'm Spartacus" was to prevent Spartacus being arrested by confusing the soldiers that had come to get him. Are we to assume that hordes of people here are trying to keep Sandy's identity here a secret from the mods? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/blink.gif) I very much doubt that Sandy is here at all, so I guess the answer to your question has to be "No". she reads WR from time to time but I imagine she finds the atmosphere to hostile to ever post here. |
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QUOTE(Obesity @ Tue 4th January 2011, 2:17am) QUOTE(Malleus @ Tue 4th January 2011, 12:19am) QUOTE(Detective @ Mon 3rd January 2011, 5:48pm) QUOTE(Malleus @ Sat 1st January 2011, 5:30am)
"Admitted to being Sandy" perhaps displays a biased point of view. Maybe it was just an "I'm Spartacus" effect?
I thought the point of "I'm Spartacus" was to prevent Spartacus being arrested by confusing the soldiers that had come to get him. Are we to assume that hordes of people here are trying to keep Sandy's identity here a secret from the mods? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/blink.gif) I very much doubt that Sandy is here at all, so I guess the answer to your question has to be "No". she reads WR from time to time but I imagine she finds the atmosphere to hostile to ever post here. It becomes less hostile to people who actually show up. We are human, after all. WR is merely a town meeting for the politicians of WP, but one that they don't control, so that somebody who asks embarassing questions or makes nasty accusations can't just be escorted out by the cops. Instead, they have to deal with the question. And the followup. If we had a history of doing nothing to the WP wonks who dare to come here, but say "Nyah, nyah you have shit-for-brains!" --that would be one thing. Some of them do indeed have shit for brains, but we have so much more to offer on WR, than that observation. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) We can indeed be uncivil here, sure, but there's far more than just incivility. On WR, you can find yourself in a real debate (not like on the TALK pages of WP) and rhetorically get your butt handed to you in thin slices, if you're not careful. Sometimes, even if you are careful. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/unsure.gif) |
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QUOTE(radek @ Tue 4th January 2011, 3:56pm) I've had a difference of opinion with her once or twice but she is actually one of the rare quality editors out there who has some clue. ... Just because this is a forum devoted to criticism of Wikipedia doesn't mean that this is a forum devoted to mindless criticism of everything about Wikipedia. Well, I'd say the reaction to this thread nicely reinforces what you're saying, right? Someone shows up out of the blue to attack SandyGeorgia (T-C-L-K-R-D)
over what to anyone other than the thread-starter is a completely trivial matter, and the reaction is near-unanimous rejection. Indeed, the overwhelming majority of poll respondents either like her, or want people to think they actually are her. Still, the more important issue is this question of why SandyGeorgia doesn't appear on WR. I don't think she's so concerned about being bashed by people - there just isn't that much of it directed at her, at least not of a serious nature, and she doesn't even seem like the type who would care all that much. I mean, if she can't handle criticism, why isn't she an admin? No, I believe there's another reason, possibly involving her simply not wanting to be seen as encouraging people to criticize Wikipedia in general. Also, I think she wants to stay on Raul654's good side (if he can even be said to have a "side" given his body-type), because of his continuing role in the "Featured Article" process, and her participating here would definitely not sit well with him. |
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SG is an odd character in the WP Freak-Show. She's actually managed to stand up to SlimVirgin. (Which helps to explain why people like her.) But she's also pulled some sleazy tricks. Plus, she's obsessed with WP. In short, she's a "Good Wikipedian". She knows how to play a dirty, rigged game. (Like Jayjg, she's done a great job of covering up her real identity.) This post has been edited by EricBarbour: |
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I think SandyGeorgia is an aging baby boomer who has multiple health problems and constant RL issues like dying dogs, a forced move to a deteriorating house with a leaky basement, or was it a roof etc., who has a school marm personality and wants desperately to have loyal followers on wiki who she trys to control through FAC. She has admitted to reading WR for "fun". Don't think she has much of a social life beyond the wiki so it makes sense she would enjoy WR. I think she is rather pathetic. QUOTE In short, she's a "Good Wikipedian". She knows how to play a dirty, rigged game.
(Like Jayjg, she's done a great job of covering up her real identity.) She has make many praising posts of Jayjg, so it figures. This post has been edited by chrisoff: |
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[ QUOTE ] I very much doubt that Sandy is here at all, so I guess the answer to your question has to be "No". [ ] Well, I think she reads WR religiously, gathering her dirt. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=415144946This post has been edited by chrisoff: |
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QUOTE(chrisoff @ Mon 21st February 2011, 4:12pm) [ QUOTE ] I very much doubt that Sandy is here at all, so I guess the answer to your question has to be "No". [ ] Well, I think she reads WR religiously, gathering her dirt. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=415144946Well everything she says there seems robust to me. QUOTE Generally, I think the "Women in Wikipedia" claptrap is bunk, to overshadow the problems in the general decline in editorship and, along with the recent trend of promoting unqualified admins, a way to avoid looking at the real problems. I can't come to Wikipedia anymore without spending most of my day dealing with POV pushers, trolls, vandals, socks and attacks on good faith editors, while the disruptive editors are allowed to continue. And all of this is because Wikipedia does not value content contributors, does not have a mechanism for dealing with POV, and does not value high-quality articles and editors any more than the random troll. None of the problems I encounter on Wikipedia have any relation to gender. So, we're now seeing a push to get more marginal content on the mainpage, right up there with Plagiarism Central; why do we work for so hard for the one area of Wikipedia that turns out our 1% of decent content? I left the US years ago to work in countries where a woman's contributions were valued for what they were, not because of some Equal Opportunity claptrap where I got thrown in with incompetent promotions in the corporate world; I don't need to work here under similar gender-based bunk. Bottom line is if you write featured content, be prepared to spend the Rest Of Your Wiki Life trying to keep it up to standard. Wikipedia will likely eventually go the way of most internet ventures, as it is gradually overtaken by the disruptive editors (a recent Arb Enforcement decision comes to mind [ http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showt...=0&#entry268903 ]), and our hope is that at least our featured contributions will survive in decent shape. I doubt it-- unless we stay on top of them, they deteriorate back to the level of the rest of the Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=415144946 |
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QUOTE : Agree (I'm sure James Joyce would get a kick out of the Category discussions on his talk). I had hopes that [[WP:OWNERSHIP#Featured articles]] would stem some of the tide, but I'm not sure it has helped much. Wikipedia will likely eventually go the way of most internet ventures, as it is gradually overtaken by the disruptive editors (a recent Arb Enforcement decision comes to mind [http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=33068&pid=268903&st=0&#entry268903]), and our hope is that at least our featured contributions will survive in decent shape. I doubt it-- unless we stay on top of them, they deteriorate back to the level of the rest of the Wikipedia. BTW, I started working up [[User:SandyGeorgia/sandbox#Wikipedians_with_four_or_more_FA_nominations_gone|a list of missing FA writers]], but have been sick for two days and haven't finished. [[User:SandyGeorgia|Sandy<font color="green">Georgia</font>]] ([[User talk:SandyGeorgia|Talk]]) 15:39, 21 February 2011 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=415144946"have been sick for two days"? Yeah, right! Look at her contributions over the last several days. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contr...ns/SandyGeorgia Most are tltr. Verbose haggling spreading her grievances over multiple sites and then blaming others for doing it. This post has been edited by chrisoff: |
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QUOTE(chrisoff @ Mon 21st February 2011, 8:38pm) "have been sick for two days"? Yeah, right! Look at her contributions over the last several days. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contr...ns/SandyGeorgia Most are tltr. Verbose haggling spreading her grievances over multiple sites and then blaming others for doing it. Hehe, that's a common SG tactic of gaining sympathy. Sometimes it's a pet died, or an illness, or moving house, or a broken roof... but mostly she manages to squeeze in at least 16 hours of editing each day. Apparently she's trying to tone down her drama queen attitude, but is failing miserably. Lately she more or less accused an RFA candidate of being a sockpuppet of Archtransit simply because they both belonged to the same wikiproject, then tried to weasel her way out of it when she was questioned. Sorry for the mini rant, but the woman irritates me more than most things on Wikipedia, and there's absolutely nothing that can be done about her. |
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