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| Heat |
Tue 3rd August 2010, 2:02pm
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http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/138917
Zionist Internet Struggle to Hit Wikipedia by Elad Benari Wikipedia has become the new battleground for Israel's PR image. The Yisrael Sheli (My Israel) movement and the Yesha Council, which represents Jewish communities in Judea and Samaria, have joined together for a new public relations initiative. Together they will soon offer a special course for volunteers who wish to write and edit English entries on Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia. Ayelet Shaked, who is heading the project, was interviewed on Monday on Arutz 7 Radio, and said that she was surprised at the large number of individuals who have gotten in touch with her so far and are interested in joining the course. “To our surprise, many applied to attend,” said Shaked. “At first we thought to offer it to only thirty candidates, but now we are considering opening it to more.” Shaked pointed out that despite the large number of candidates, the door is still open for other candidates who wish to attend the course. Explaining the course’s goals and methods of operation, she said: “The goal is to take part in public relations [for Israel] in English. Wikipedia has rules that one must learn in order to be able to edit entries. Not anyone can be an editor on Wikipedia. The information has to be reliable and meet certain rules. Our intention is to teach these rules as well as show how to deal with different terminology when writing these entries.” She cited some examples of the Zionist struggle in the use of terms such as “occupation” in Wikipedia entries, as well as in the editing of entries that will link between the land of Israel, and specifically Judea and Samaria, and Jewish history. Shaked clarified that she does not fear that wealthy leftist organizations will also take advantage of this opportunity to rise to the occasion and edit Wikipedia entries based on their own world views. She noted that such organizations are already operating in this arena, and added that as far as she is concerned the struggle should involve more action and less talk. As such she emphasized that she is not discouraged by any of the concerns described above. She concluded by once again calling on applicants who wish to participate in the course to visit the My Israel website and apply to take part in the first such Wikipedia course which is scheduled to be held in a few weeks. According to statistics published on Wikipedia’s site, there are currently 3,367,866 content pages on the site and 12,807,029 registered users, 132,885 of which are active users who are involved in creating and editing entries. My Israel is a network of online pro-Israel activists committed to spreading Zionism online and to counter the spread of lies and misinformation against Israel which frequently appears on the Internet. Visit www.myisrael.org.il for more information on the organization as well as to register for the Wikipedia course. (IsraelNationalNews.com) |
| SB_Johnny |
Tue 3rd August 2010, 3:39pm
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![]() It wasn't me who made honky-tonk angels ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regulars Posts: 2,128 Joined: Mon 15th Sep 2008, 3:10pm Member No.: 8,272 WP user page - talk check - contribs |
Interesting article. The only comment so far is by someone named "Phil Jessup", warning that there is an anti-semite "team" on WP.
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| Cock-up-over-conspiracy |
Tue 3rd August 2010, 11:49pm
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Zionist Internet Struggle to Hit Wikipedia ... Wikipedia has become the new battleground for Israel's PR image. Well, anything that stops then having the time to drive tanks over little old ladies and children has to be good. Sadly one has to suspect that these course will only attract wimpy, geeky, narky Zionists without the balls to learn Krav Maga ... even if it includes a chance to roll on the mats with the legendary Avivit. Of course, what they are talking about is organizing meat puppet teams ... just like the Korean VANK network ... which is, of course, against the rules and, funnily enough, something that I was questioned about bringing up just a few days ago. Believe me know? I mean, who else in the world would really bother that much!?! Jimmy ... shut the fucking thing down please or at the very least ... where is the 'flagged revisions' you promised a year ago? Super Hot Avivit demonstrates the finer aspect of editing on the Wikipedia to the Volunteer League of Zionist Wikipedians. Wait until the guys at the Electronic Intifada sniff this one ... God, the thought of it all alone is so tiresome. |
| The Adversary |
Mon 9th August 2010, 8:57pm
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"wealthy leftist organizations"??
Huh? I wish they could name one. Nay, I wish I could name one. Not that there is anything new in this. It puts this in perspective. The thing is: I have seen lots of stuff over the years from pro-Israeli sources who are systematically recruiting /educating editors for WP. Arutz 7 just follows in the footsteps of CAMERA, JIDF and others. I have never, ever seen any such campaign from any pro-Palestinian group (& I follow several of them rather closely). If it hasn´t dawned on them yet: pro-Palestinian groups mainly (AFAIK) sees the 2.0 web as a "lost cause"; completely flooded with pro-Israeli propagandists. |
| pietkuip |
Wed 18th August 2010, 4:22pm
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Haaratz article
And http://wikibias.com/2010/08/wikipedia-a-how-to-guide/ gives advice on how to look like a newbie. |
| tarantino |
Wed 18th August 2010, 6:04pm
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And http://wikibias.com/2010/08/wikipedia-a-how-to-guide/ gives advice on how to look like a newbie. That site is owned and the article was written by User:Eric1985. He hasn't been very active on wp lately, at least with that account. He also owns isrealsituation.com, where he mentions wikibias but fails to note that he is the owner. |
| The Adversary |
Thu 19th August 2010, 1:52am
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That site is owned and the article was written by User:Eric1985. He hasn't been very active on wp lately, at least with that account. He also owns isrealsituation.com, where he mentions wikibias but fails to note that he is the owner. Finally, finally I have found something to correct Tarantino for It is israelsituation.com, not isrealsituation.comAnd thanks for the links! 50 right-wing Israelis taking courses in how to "play" wikipedia, with prizes for the best "player". (The ban against payed editing is not for pro-Israelis?) |
| tarantino |
Thu 19th August 2010, 2:31am
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Finally, finally I have found something to correct Tarantino for :) It is israelsituation.com, not isrealsituation.com I misspell Israel wrong half the time, and the spell checker alerts me, but domain names are mostly flagged as misspelled so I didn't notice this time :) |
| Ottava |
Thu 19th August 2010, 3:14am
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"wealthy leftist organizations"?? Huh? I wish they could name one. Nay, I wish I could name one. Bill Gate's foundation. Anything Soros funds (quite a few, like MoveOn.org). Green Peace. Sierra Club. Amnesty International. Southern Poverty Law Center (they definitely rake in the money without really spending it on anything). Anything Al Gore is part of. etc etc etc |
| A User |
Thu 19th August 2010, 3:49am
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Jimmy ... shut the fucking thing down please or at the very least ... where is the 'flagged revisions' you promised a year ago? Agree. There is no benefit of "free" knowledge when it becomes soiled with biases. For the sake of humanities future, wikipedia must be closed down |
| EricBarbour |
Thu 19th August 2010, 4:18am
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blah ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Regulars Posts: 5,919 Joined: Mon 25th Feb 2008, 2:31am Member No.: 5,066 WP user page - talk check - contribs |
No, no, no, you guys have it wrong.
Merely pointing this out won't cause them to shut WP down. What ya wanna do is, to start YOUR OWN WIKIPEDIA BIASING ORGANIZATION. It doesn't even matter what the subject is, you could write about dark rye bread vs. light rye if you wish. Just as long as you're running a public, blatant project to insert bias into WP, and better yet, offer money for people to do so. More such projects means more publicity, leading to poorer public relations for the WMF and their fanboys. And have a nice day. ![]() This post has been edited by EricBarbour: Thu 19th August 2010, 4:18am |
| Herschelkrustofsky |
Thu 19th August 2010, 6:03am
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A modest proposal: instead of struggling each day to maintain his current level of posting, where he authors 20% of all WR posts, Moulton takes a WR-break, and forms a task force which will attempt to bias WP toward red-heads.
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| Subtle Bee |
Thu 19th August 2010, 6:12am
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A modest proposal: instead of struggling each day to maintain his current level of posting, where he authors of 20% of all WR posts, Moulton takes a WR-break, and forms a task force which will attempt to bias WP toward red-heads. Now that's just not true! I, for one, write all my own material. I wonder what proportion of 'pedians are gingerpates. |
| Cock-up-over-conspiracy |
Thu 19th August 2010, 4:09pm
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Damn ... they moved the Avavit video.
Boy, I'd hate to face her when she has her PMT. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8XBDtIVVYA |
| EricBarbour |
Thu 19th August 2010, 11:45pm
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Did anyone see this hot story?
Israelis have been manipulating the US media for a LONG time. Wikipedia is at the bottom of the pile, I suspect..... |
| Milton Roe |
Fri 20th August 2010, 12:26am
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Did anyone see this hot story? Israelis have been manipulating the US media for a LONG time. Wikipedia is at the bottom of the pile, I suspect..... Memory lane, 1964: QUOTE Cover-ups: “The [Dimona] nuclear reactor story inspired comment from many sources; editorial writers, columnists, science writers and cartoonists. Most of the press seemed finally to accept the thesis that the reactor was being built for peaceful purposes and not for bombs.” The number of nuclear weapons Israel has is STILL not a topic of wide discussion. That's still pretty successful. QUOTE Payola: “The Atlantic Monthly in its October issue carried the outstanding Martha Gellhorn piece on the Arab refugees, which made quite an impact around the country. We arranged for the distribution of 10,000 reprints to public opinion molders in all categories… Interested friends are making arrangements with the Atlantic for another reprint of the Gellhorn article to be sent to all 53,000 persons whose names appear in Who’s Who in America…Our Committee is now planning articles for the women’s magazines for the trade and business publications.” Marty Gellhorn. That's Ernest QUOTE Pressure: “It can be said that the press of the nation…has by and large shown sympathy and understanding of Israel’s position. There are, of course, exceptions, notably the Scripps-Howard chain where we still need to achieve a ‘break-through,’ the Pulliam chain (where some progress has been made) and some locally-owned papers.” But don't you dare say the Jews are attempting to control the media, as that's antisemitic. Says so, here in the paper.... QUOTE Ghost Writing: “We cannot pinpoint all that has already been accomplished by this Committee except to say that it has been responsible for the writing and placement of articles on Israel in some of America’s leading magazines….” A lot of the goys can't write, and those that can, have to come to us to get published, anyway. ![]() |
| Eppur si muove |
Sat 21st August 2010, 1:46pm
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And http://wikibias.com/2010/08/wikipedia-a-how-to-guide/ gives advice on how to look like a newbie. That site is owned and the article was written by User:Eric1985. He hasn't been very active on wp lately, at least with that account. He also owns isrealsituation.com, where he mentions wikibias but fails to note that he is the owner. Well, this campaign is proving a triumph. Eric is now going to have to take his own advice on how to look like a newbie [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Eric1985&diff=380135219&oldid=375798205/]. Jiujitsuguy has gone the same way. [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jiujitsuguy&diff=prev&oldid=380069062/] they'll have so much to blog about. I mean thatadmin's name for a start... Now, if they could start using sighted edits sensibly to protect the battleground articles from propaganda campaigns from sockpuppets and their IP addresses but allow sensible edits by newbies to get through the screening process, we might get somewhere. |
| Heat |
Sat 21st August 2010, 9:04pm
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Here's the report up on YouTube!
They want to make sure articles are "balanced and Zionist in nature". Also on the NYTimes blog. |
| Heat |
Sat 21st August 2010, 9:07pm
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And http://wikibias.com/2010/08/wikipedia-a-how-to-guide/ gives advice on how to look like a newbie. That site is owned and the article was written by User:Eric1985. He hasn't been very active on wp lately, at least with that account. He also owns isrealsituation.com, where he mentions wikibias but fails to note that he is the owner. Well, this campaign is proving a triumph. Eric is now going to have to take his own advice on how to look like a newbie [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Eric1985&diff=380135219&oldid=375798205/]. Jiujitsuguy has gone the same way. [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jiujitsuguy&diff=prev&oldid=380069062/] they'll have so much to blog about. I mean thatadmin's name for a start... Now, if they could start using sighted edits sensibly to protect the battleground articles from propaganda campaigns from sockpuppets and their IP addresses but allow sensible edits by newbies to get through the screening process, we might get somewhere. Pro-Zionist editor User:Wikifan12345 seems to be admitting that he's a sockpuppet: QUOTE This post has been edited by Heat: Sat 21st August 2010, 9:08pm |
| tarantino |
Sat 21st August 2010, 10:16pm
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"David Appletree", the founder of the Jewish Internet Defense Force is a pseudonym.
The JIDF, with 54.000 followers on twitter, has made numerous forays into social media sites such as wp and keeps a list of problematic wp editors here. An interview with a "David Appletree" can be heard here. http://www.jewishcommunityradio.org/audio/JIDF.mp3 - edited to remove speculation. This post has been edited by tarantino: Sun 22nd August 2010, 3:14am |
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