Ask the Leaker, Go ask Malice, I think he'll know Options

[Herschelkrustofsky]

For openers, do you have anything juicy on the topic of Slim's socking, either Sweet Blue Water or Sunsplash? Or on banal "Whole Foods Market"-style genre of monikers she invents?

[Silver seren]

The moment I saw that you had made this thread, I knew what the question was going to pertain to. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/mellow.gif)

[gomi]

I am morbidly curious about the lengthy deliberations surrounding the Israel-Palestine decision, specifically the removal of checkuser, etc from Jayjg (T-C-L-K-R-D) .

[Peter Damian]

I am curious about any emails relating to the identity of Iridescent.

[MaliceAforethought]

For openers, do you have anything juicy on the topic of Slim's socking, either Sweet Blue Water or Sunsplash? Or on banal "Whole Foods Market"-style genre of monikers she invents?

No mention of Sweet Blue Water or Sunsplash or anything about SlimVirgin socking that isn't about defending her from accusations (in 2007) or her kvetching about being falsely accused.

From kirill.lokshin at gmail.com Tue Apr 3 15:35:52 2007
From: kirill.lokshin at gmail.com (Kirill Lokshin)
Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 11:35:52 -0400
Subject: [Arbcom-l] Query regarding sockpuppeting admin
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On 4/3/07, charles.r.matthews at ntlworld.com
<charles.r.matthews at ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Steve Dunlop wrote
>
> > I have left notes explaining the situation and the arbcom's position on
> > it on Henrygb's talk page and on AN/I.
>
> You left out the bit we discussed most, which was that there was absolutely no urgency to do anything here.
>
> I deprecate this strongly. The statement contains assertions of _fact_ on sockpuppetry. This is a most unfortunate form of phrasing. Maybe it was the girlfriend's account. But in any case this seems to go way beyond what we had agreed to do.
>
> So, you have probably run a good editor off the site, now. When I suggested that we might be asking Henrygb to hand in the mop, I meant that. This is (otherwise) someone we should be happy to have editing.
>
> I think it is extremely important that we handle these matters in a collegiate way.

I think it's also important to avoid having our hands tied because
someone won't cooperate. Henrygb has been given ample opportunity to
provide some explanation or comment on the sockpuppetry charge;
instead, he's decided to accuse us of being part of some shadowy
SlimVirgin Atrribution conspiracy (all while studiously avoiding
saying anything -- anything at all -- as to the charge itself). The
fact that he won't discuss the issue with us should be a point against
him, not a free ticket out of being sanctioned for what appears --
barring any explanation from him -- as quite inexcusable behavior.

In any case, I'll point out that it was Henrygb who insisted on having
everything done in public. Given his demands that we conduct all
discussion on his talk page, posting the charges on AN/I is quite fair
game, I think.

Kirill

I am curious about any emails relating to the identity of Iridescent.

Looked for all ready, the bloke doesn't even trust the other inmates with his identity.

[Peter Damian]

How about emails from John Vandenberg re FT2 probably between 7 and 14 January 2009. The IDs below may refer (although possibly not).

The same material is referenced by Vandenberg more than a year later on the precise date of 27 November 2010, where he provides some 'evidence' to the committee.

deea21830901070135r601f4439wa7dbed2553bfee93
deea21830812201847y46742623t6534619a5443d8e4

More generally, I was told that there was a plot during December 2010-January 2011 by certain Arbcom members to oust FT2. I wasn't told any more because they were worried about material being leaked to Wikipedia by someone on the committee.

Any evidence during the December 2010 period of concerns about leaks would be interesting.

This post has been edited by Peter Damian:

[-DS-]

Anything on the block of "User:Peter Karlsen" in early December 2010?

[Jack Merridew]

I'd be interested in stuff about me. I was on the very edge of the M4th/GJP et al stuff and went and knocked on the arb-wiki's door when that was going on (which must have left log-footprints). They have a fix in for me and I'd like to see the *real* reasons.

* nyupat means to volunteer for execution, and they have an article on puputan:
* http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puputan

:: damn; I thought this was going to go in the ask the leaker thread; mebbe someone wil move it --Jack

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[Craftyminion]

I'd be interested to know the gory details of Ottava's wrangles with the Big Bad Arbs. Also anything about Sandy Georgia.

[EricBarbour]

What do I want? There's nothing in this stuff that I would call "compelling" or even "unexpected".

I'd like to see the entire gang of prevaricating, butt-sniffing, backpedalling fools on Arbcom
resign en masse. Especially Coren, Risker, Wjbscribe, Davies, ShellKinney, and Xeno, and with
special contempt for NYB. If you want "disputes" to be "resolved", the last person you want is
a corporate attorney whose career depends on his ability to obfuscate and delay.

They have done a fine job of turning a "dispute-resolution group" into a Wikilawyering tag-team.
Curse them, over and over.

That's all I want. Not much to ask.

[-DS-]

I observe that this topic has ended up under the wrong title.

[Herschelkrustofsky]

I observe that this topic has ended up under the wrong title.

No problemo, propose a better title and it shall be fixed.

Meanwhile, anything about Jayjg, Georgewilliamherbert, and the manipulation and/or misrepresentation of CU data?

[MaliceAforethought]

I observe that this topic has ended up under the wrong title.

Brief result of a merge in and now I've pinned it.

[trenton]

The whole negotiating with Gerard and Goodwin and John Vandenberg falling on his sword should be interesting....

[A Horse With No Name]

Hey, what's a Wikipedia scandal without Shankbone? Any fun stuff on him? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/evilgrin.gif)

[Tarc]

Any mention of me? I want to be famous too! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unhappy.gif)

[Shalom]

Anything on Law / The_undertow. When did Casliber and/or other arbs agree to let him edit through a "ban" and not tell anybody on-wiki?

[Milton Roe]

[copied from another thread, since this one has been created]

Milton's request:

How far back does this stuff go? I'm curious as to what Arbom had to say to itself May 28-29, 2008 when Gary Weiss/Mantanmoreland was finally caught socking as user:Bassettcat, thereby proving most of what newbie WordBomb/Bagley had been saying about him. A moment of shame? A moment of self-inspection? Nothing?

[-DS-]

[copied from another thread, since this one has been created]

Milton's request:

How far back does this stuff go? I'm curious as to what Arbom had to say to itself May 28-29, 2008 when Gary Weiss/Mantanmoreland was finally caught socking as socking as user:Bassettcat, thereby proving move of what newbie WordBomb/Bagley had been saying about him. A moment of shame? A moment of self-inspection? Nothing?

I second this.

[SB_Johnny]

Someone else will have to provide the dates, but any threads on the damage control after they kicked the "retired" arbs off the mailinglist would probably be enlightening.