Cleaning up after Dr. Blofeld, ..he can do it himself (Yepp: I'm quitting wp) Options

[The Adversary]

Whaw: who would have guessed: after years of complaining and raging again "the cabal" on wp; the person to force me out of turns out to be...Dr. Blofeld (T-C-L-K-R-D) ,

May I introduce myself, I am Huldra (T-C-L-K-R-D) on wp (Btw; I have criticized SlimVirgin every way I could for these last few years....except for her silly user-name. As I am probably the only person on WP to have chosen an even sillier user-name (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/biggrin.gif) )

Now, about 3 years ago, utterly pissed off by Jayjg and Slim, I found my own quiet little corner of Israel/Palestine -articles: Palestinian Arab villages depopulated during the 1948 Palestine War

It was a strange little corner of Wikipedia; every now and then some newbie would start a horrible stub, often half in Arabic, with tons and tons of WP:OR. Typically they would only do a few edits (less that 20) and then disappear from WP totally......which then the "clean-up-task-force" (read: mostly me, Al Ameer son, Tiamut, Ashely (when he´s not blocked) ) would come along and clean up.

So we would turn this into Al-Muzayri'a . And this into Al-Nabi_Yusha' . And this into Saqiya.

Not superb any of them, but at least a decent start. This last one is typical: I think someone simply put the Khalidi-text (in Arabic) through some automatic translation ..so you get gems like "in recent years on the assignment," ...meaning: "in the last years of the (British) Mandate (of Palestine)" (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif)

Oh, and some we just never got around cleaning up: Al-Ja'una

So, slowly, steadfast during the last couple of years we have been progressing. The huge template has been invaluable...but I could only navigate around it because many of the links were red.

Until yesterday. Blofeld comes along and find he does not like red links, and decides that he will start all the red-linked villages...and turn the whole template into on huuuge green soup. And does just that.

Now, I cannot manage to navigate with it anymore.
Oh, well, Blofeld say he will work on the articles, and he does, but he does not have the sources (books). So far he has added nothing to the "public knowledge", he only copies from web-sites which were freely available, anyway. Re-inventing (or: re-writing) the wheel, so to speak. Now, if actually got hold of the books and educated himself on the topic: great. But I fear that in a short time he will be gone (he has a million other articles to attend too, as he has informed us.)

I liked this comment about reaching 3 mill articles on wp: "great, I've managed to poo in every room in the house"

Well, I leave it to Blofeld to clean up his own diarrhoea, eh, poo. I´m out.

[Sarcasticidealist]

I'm always disappointed when I find out the Wikipedia user name of a WR poster, and it turns out to be somebody I've never heard of. Personally, I'd always hoped that the Adversary was Newyorkbrad.

Anyway, happy trails. Will you be sticking around here?

[One]

I'm always disappointed when I find out the Wikipedia user name of a WR poster, and it turns out to be somebody I've never heard of. Personally, I'd always hoped that the Adversary was Newyorkbrad.

Anyway, happy trails. Will you be sticking around here?

I saw him at Naked short selling last summer. He chipped in when Janneyryan and JohnnyB256 seemed to be doing a tag team.

[The Adversary]

Ah, my very last DYK: "Did you know, that The Adversary on the wikipediareview website has reputation for being extremely nasty and unpleasant about other wikipedians?" (We can take that as a co-nom, Blofeld and Huldra) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wink.gif)

And anyway, I am also a stinking nasty little bitch. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/blink.gif)

Oh boy. I have been working on these 48-villages for 3+ years. Now the "Bible" here is the book by Khalidi (1992) , + Morris (2004). Blofeldt does not, AFAK, have even these (basic) books available. When he starts all these articles about the 48-villages, he *only* copies/rehash material which is already on the net. He, IMHO, he simply does not "add value" to the net doing this. Call that what you want.

And by doing so he chase away those -at least one- who actually did "add value", ie added information which was not already freely available on the net.

I was literally sitting crying my eyes out last night, seeing what he was doing, knowing that it would chase me of WP. I felt run over by a bulldozer. So I don´t really care what he calls me (or I call him). The damage is done.

I'm always disappointed when I find out the Wikipedia user name of a WR poster, and it turns out to be somebody I've never heard of. Personally, I'd always hoped that the Adversary was Newyorkbrad.

Anyway, happy trails. Will you be sticking around here?

I saw him at Naked short selling last summer. He chipped in when Janneyryan and JohnnyB256 seemed to be doing a tag team.

Ah yes, one of my better moment

(And I´m female! And, eh, born a true troll (It takes one to know one) ....and a hard-core feminist.. (That´s part of horsey that I´m eating in my avatar..yummy.. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif) ) and yeah, I might stick around.

[JohnA]

(And I´m female! And, eh, born a true troll (It takes one to know one) ....and a hard-core feminist.. (That´s part of horsey that I´m eating in my avatar..yummy.. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif) ) and yeah, I might stick around.

And I'd like to see proof of the hard-core feminism in my inbox, preferably without unnecessary clothing, for I am a hard-core masculinist and keyboard-drooler. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wink.gif)

[The Adversary]

(And I´m female! And, eh, born a true troll (It takes one to know one) ....and a hard-core feminist.. (That´s part of horsey that I´m eating in my avatar..yummy.. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif) ) and yeah, I might stick around.

And I'd like to see proof of the hard-core feminism in my inbox, preferably without unnecessary clothing, for I am a hard-core masculinist and keyboard-drooler. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wink.gif)

..sorry, you do not want that.. I am probaly old enough to be your mother...at least I am old enough to be Blofeld´s mother (I think)

...so go drool somewhere else (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/yak.gif)

So why do you keep giving them your labor, freely?

Oh, Eric, that is a facinating question. And the answer is....it was the most inexpensive hobby I had! (besides reading..) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif)

I am a hopeless collector, normally I collect items which comes under the label of "Scandinavian design". I actually came to WP to write about some of those areas ..then, by chance, I ran into Jayjg and SV, and the rest is history, as they say

I started "collecting" information about the 1948-villages, and, it might sound strange, but I found that just as fun as, say, collecting some of the things I have collected... And a heck of a lot less expensive. Thekosher, and you, & others, always goes on about the "free work" for WP. The problem for me is that I will have trouble finding a hobby as inexpensive as WP.....

[EricBarbour]

I started "collecting" information about the 1948-villages, and, it might sound strange, but I found that just as fun as, say, collecting some of the things I have collected... And a heck of a lot less expensive. Thekosher, and you, others, always goes on about the "free work" for WP. The problem for me is that I will have trouble finding a hobby as inexpensive as WP.....

I know. However, there are other wikis. Some are friendlier than WP ever will be.
You could indeed put articles on Greg Kohs's Wikipedia Review. Or Encyc, or Citizendium,
or New World Encyclopedia, or even Wikademia. There are many others.

No doubt they would be a LOT happier to have your contributions than WP wiil.....

[Emperor]

I know. However, there are other wikis. Some are friendlier than WP ever will be.
You could indeed put articles on Greg Kohs's Wikipedia Review. Or Encyc, or Citizendium,
or New World Encyclopedia, or even Wikademia. There are many others.

No doubt they would be a LOT happier to have your contributions than WP wiil.....

Of course. I like red links. They are one of the most powerful features of the MediaWiki software. Turning a red link to blue is a great feeling, and sucks people into the project.

[Milton Roe]

I know. However, there are other wikis. Some are friendlier than WP ever will be.
You could indeed put articles on Greg Kohs's Wikipedia Review. Or Encyc, or Citizendium,
or New World Encyclopedia, or even Wikademia. There are many others.

No doubt they would be a LOT happier to have your contributions than WP wiil.....

Of course. I like red links. They are one of the most powerful features of the MediaWiki software. Turning a red link to blue is a great feeling, and sucks people into the project.

Not if you do it by cheating.

If the main article says that the primary Buttcrackavia commanders in the Battle of the Barf Sea were J. Larry, J. Curly, and J. Moe, and the middle one is red-linked, it does absolutely NOTHING for the project to create a bio stub for J Curly and put in it the fact that he was one of three primary Buttcrackavian commanders at the Battle of the Barf Sea. Not even if you put military history and bio cat tags on this turkey of a bio stub.

You understand? You've actually undermined the encyclopedia by doing this, because somebody ELSE, who may actually know something more than this minimum information about J. Curly, will see these all as blue links while reading, and will assume that there's probably a bio on him already which contains more info than the main article has. Which it doesn't. HENCE, the main value that a red-link HAS in that situation, has been LOST due to the action of the idiotic obscessive stub-maker and red-link stomper, who simply doesn't like the color of the link.

[Emperor]

Of course. I like red links. They are one of the most powerful features of the MediaWiki software. Turning a red link to blue is a great feeling, and sucks people into the project.

Not if you do it by cheating.

If the main article says that the primary Buttcrackavia commanders in the Battle of the Barf Sea were J. Larry, J. Curly, and J. Moe, and the middle one is red-linked, it does absolutely NOTHING for the project to create a bio stub for J Curly and put in it the fact that he was one of three primary Buttcrackavian commanders at the Battle of the Barf Sea. Not even if you put military history and bio cat tags on this turkey of a bio stub.

You understand? You've actually undermined the encyclopedia by doing this, because somebody ELSE, who may actually know something more than this minimum information about J. Curly, will see these all as blue links while reading, and will assume that there's probably a bio on him already which contains more info than the main article has. Which it doesn't. HENCE, the main value that a red-link HAS in that situation, has been LOST due to the action of the idiotic obscessive stub-maker and red-link stomper, who simply doesn't like the color of the link.

I agree, and I'd go as far as saying that one person who puts thought and effort into his writing is worth a thousand obsessive little gnomes. Wikipedia has some incentives for volume though,.