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Despite umpteen threats to "leave", the last one that Malleus won't edit an article again until his demands are met.

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I won't be returning to editing articles until User:Georgewilliamherbert puts his money where his mouth is with respect to his threat to take User:Mkativerata to ArbCom for unblocking me, during which investigation I hope that [[User:Kaldari]]'s behaviour will also come under scrutiny.

I'll wait as long as it takes. It's time for George to walk the walk, no more empty threats.


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Could you run through Verifiability not Truth once more?
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<sigh> Are they still trying to claim that the most objectionable word in the UK is somehow OK to use, just because a small subsection of the English speaking population use it as mild but friendly abuse in certain circumstances? Guy Chapman has much to answer for in making that claim.

In private groups you might get away with it, with people you know. Anywhere else you are taking a big risk of being flattened by someone who would be outraged or arrested for offensive language. I doubt the magistrates would be overly impressed by the "Someone told me it was OK on Wikipedia" defence.
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QUOTE(dogbiscuit @ Thu 29th December 2011, 4:06pm) *

<sigh> Are they still trying to claim that the most objectionable word in the UK is somehow OK to use, just because a small subsection of the English speaking population use it as mild but friendly abuse in certain circumstances? Guy Chapman has much to answer for in making that claim.

In private groups you might get away with it, with people you know. Anywhere else you are taking a big risk of being flattened by someone who would be outraged or arrested for offensive language. I doubt the magistrates would be overly impressed by the "Someone told me it was OK on Wikipedia" defence.


For some reason I doubt that in most cases anyone fey enough or thin-skinned to be insulted or incensed by the C-word would have the physical ability to flatten the speaker.

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Civility is a matter of courtesy and respect for a fellow being. It is not something that is "deserved" or earned. It is the way individuals treat each other in a civilized society. Because someone does not agree with Malleus does not give him leave to spatter them with vulgarity. What will that achieve? Will that improve the discourse? Sometimes treating an "enemy" with respect is the best way toward a truce and reconciliation.

How does Malleus repeatedly making it clear that he doesn't respect certain editors help? Malleus gets to choose who doesn't deserve to be treated with civility, then jump in the gutter and call them a "cunt" or "dick" or speculate about their "wet or dry dreams". So what does that accomplish except more antagonism?

Think of all the WP text written about Malleus's vulgarity, both for and against. What a waste, when all Malleus has to do is leave a few words out of his vocabulary. Is he incapable of that? If he is, he has a problem.

No wonder WP is such a nasty place.


I've heard some total new-age bollocks spouted before, but the above is right up there with the most hippyish.
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QUOTE(Cunningly Linguistic @ Thu 29th December 2011, 11:22pm) *

For some reason I doubt that in most cases anyone fey enough or thin-skinned to be insulted or incensed by the C-word would have the physical ability to flatten the speaker.

Which just shows that you don't get it.

Try this:

Stand at a bar in the UK, find a suitable test case, such as a bunch of builders who have been happily calling each other all sorts of names on the building site, and as a stranger say:

"I was at the bar first, you cunt."

We have an excellent ambulance and health service for such situations. A wimpy "Someone on Wikipedia said it was normal to call people cunts" is not going to work in the few nanoseconds you will have to errect your defences.
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QUOTE(dogbiscuit @ Fri 30th December 2011, 9:31am) *

QUOTE(Cunningly Linguistic @ Thu 29th December 2011, 11:22pm) *

For some reason I doubt that in most cases anyone fey enough or thin-skinned to be insulted or incensed by the C-word would have the physical ability to flatten the speaker.

Which just shows that you don't get it.

Try this:

Stand at a bar in the UK, find a suitable test case, such as a bunch of builders who have been happily calling each other all sorts of names on the building site, and as a stranger say:

"I was at the bar first, you cunt."

We have an excellent ambulance and health service for such situations. A wimpy "Someone on Wikipedia said it was normal to call people cunts" is not going to work in the few nanoseconds you will have to errect your defences.


First off I am a Brit, secondly it's a bad analogy and thirdly not all wp editors are pusil, teenage basement dwellers.

And fourthly anyone knows you wait for one of them to go to the bog, you follow him in, and only then do you call him a cunt... rinse and repeat.
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