GODAMMIT, indef blocked again Options

[Obesity]

these new admins don't put up with a shred of fun or nonsense. I HATE THEM!!!!!!!!!

This is like the 4th time I've been indeffed in the past 2 years, and this time I didn't even do anything (except call people who use AN/I "douche," a fairly benign colloquial term that I frequently direct toward my cat and my sister).

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[Zoloft]

these new admins don't put up with a shred of fun or nonsense. I HATE THEM!!!!!!!!!

This is like the 4th time I've been indeffed in the past 2 years, and this time I didn't even to anything (except call people who use AN/I "douche," a fairly benign colloquial term that I frequently direct toward my cat and my sister).

A drunk man walks into a bar and orders a drink. While he waits for the bartender to mix his cocktail, he notices a woman alone at the end of the bar. When his drink comes, he says, "Hey b-b-b-artender. Give that douche bag at the end of the bar a drink for me."
The bartender tells the drunk to keep his voice down, but the drunk is belligerent. "Give that douche bag a drink, dammit!" he shouts.
The bartender becomes angry. "Sir, I will not permit you to sit here and call the lady names."
The drunk persists. "For the last time, bartender, bring me my drink and give that douche bag down there a drink, too!"
Attempting to quell the growing disturbance, the bartender approaches the woman and apologizes for the behavior of the drunk. "The gentleman insists upon buying you a drink, ma'am. What can I get for you?"
The woman replies, "Oh,... I'll have a vinegar and water, please!"

I salute you sir, with your own cocktail, named for you:

Obesity Called Me a Douche

2 oz. cheap gin, say Beefeater Gin

3/4 oz. lemon liqueur, say Paula's Texas Lemon

1/2 oz. lemon juice

1/2 oz. balsamic vinegar

1 oz. cane syrup

2 in. lemon peel

Put all of the above except the peel in an ice-filled cocktail shaker and shake until chilled.
Decant into a Manhattan glass and wring out the peel into the cocktail. Drop it in.

Place a glass of mineral water nearby as a chaser.

*Plagiarized, adapted, and shaken from a recipe in the Washington Times

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[Herschelkrustofsky]

Important Update

His charm offensive has succeeded. His block is lifted, all's right with the world.

[Milton Roe]

these new admins don't put up with a shred of fun or nonsense. I HATE THEM!!!!!!!!!

This is like the 4th time I've been indeffed in the past 2 years, and this time I didn't even to anything (except call people who use AN/I "douche," a fairly benign colloquial term that I frequently direct toward my cat and my sister).

Well, somebody purporting to be an Rlevse new account got tromped on. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unhappy.gif)

Avraham has no sense of humor. Which is okay, since Rlevse didn't either.

[powercorrupts]

these new admins don't put up with a shred of fun or nonsense. I HATE THEM!!!!!!!!!

This is like the 4th time I've been indeffed in the past 2 years, and this time I didn't even to anything (except call people who use AN/I "douche," a fairly benign colloquial term that I frequently direct toward my cat and my sister).

Well, somebody purporting to be an Rlevse new account got tromped on. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unhappy.gif)

Avraham has no sense of humor. Which is okay, since Rlevse didn't either.

Peace, everyone. Rlevse

Hahaha. That's got to be in the all time Top 10 comedy vandalism.

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[Zoloft]

these new admins don't put up with a shred of fun or nonsense. I HATE THEM!!!!!!!!!

This is like the 4th time I've been indeffed in the past 2 years, and this time I didn't even to anything (except call people who use AN/I "douche," a fairly benign colloquial term that I frequently direct toward my cat and my sister).

Well, somebody purporting to be an Rlevse new account got tromped on. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unhappy.gif)

Avraham has no sense of humor. Which is okay, since Rlevse didn't either.

Peace, everyone. Rlevse

Hahaha. That's got to be in all time Top 10 comedy vandalism.

Hrmmm...

[Milton Roe]

these new admins don't put up with a shred of fun or nonsense. I HATE THEM!!!!!!!!!

This is like the 4th time I've been indeffed in the past 2 years, and this time I didn't even to anything (except call people who use AN/I "douche," a fairly benign colloquial term that I frequently direct toward my cat and my sister).

Well, somebody purporting to be an Rlevse new account got tromped on. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unhappy.gif)

Avraham has no sense of humor. Which is okay, since Rlevse didn't either.

Peace, everyone. Rlevse

Hahaha. That's got to be in all time Top 10 comedy vandalism.

Hrmmm...

Good point. I noticed the non-vandal diffs at the time but failed to see the signifance. Looking at the diffs of the specific contributions of Vanished_6551232 (T-C-L-K-R-D) , it does look like old Rlevse himself, editing under that account since he scrambled his Rlevse password on Halloween. Oooohh, wait will Giano realizes this....

Don't take him off hivemind yet, Brandt.

[Obesity]

these new admins don't put up with a shred of fun or nonsense. I HATE THEM!!!!!!!!!

This is like the 4th time I've been indeffed in the past 2 years, and this time I didn't even to anything (except call people who use AN/I "douche," a fairly benign colloquial term that I frequently direct toward my cat and my sister).

Well, somebody purporting to be an Rlevse new account got tromped on. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unhappy.gif)

Avraham has no sense of humor. Which is okay, since Rlevse didn't either.

Peace, everyone. Rlevse

Hahaha. That's got to be in all time Top 10 comedy vandalism.

Hrmmm...

Good point. I noticed the non-vandal diffs at the time but failed to see the signifance. Looking at the diffs of the specific contributions of Vanished_6551232 (T-C-L-K-R-D) , it does look like old Rlevse himself, editing under that account since he scrambled his Rlevse password on Halloween. Oooohh, wait will Giano realizes this....

Don't take him off hivemind yet, Brandt.

Uhh.... I think you're a few steps behind the game. Avraham openly renamed Rlvese's account to Vanished_6551232 in order to obscure his contributions once he decided to "vanish". ALL of Rlvese's diffs can be found in vanished's contributions

[Killiondude]

Uhh.... I think you're a few steps behind the game. Avraham openly renamed Rlvese's account to Vanished_6551232 in order to obscure his contributions once he decided to "vanish". ALL of Rlvese's diffs can be found in vanished's contributions

Right. Rlevse actually logged in and made that comment.

20:51, November 7, 2010 Avraham (talk | contribs | block) renamed User:Rlevse to "Vanished 6551232" ‎ (93,195 edits. Reason: RTV)

From Special:Log/renameuser (timestamp is UTC -8).

[Milton Roe]

these new admins don't put up with a shred of fun or nonsense. I HATE THEM!!!!!!!!!

This is like the 4th time I've been indeffed in the past 2 years, and this time I didn't even to anything (except call people who use AN/I "douche," a fairly benign colloquial term that I frequently direct toward my cat and my sister).

Well, somebody purporting to be an Rlevse new account got tromped on. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unhappy.gif)

Avraham has no sense of humor. Which is okay, since Rlevse didn't either.

Peace, everyone. Rlevse

Hahaha. That's got to be in all time Top 10 comedy vandalism.

Hrmmm...

Good point. I noticed the non-vandal diffs at the time but failed to see the signifance. Looking at the diffs of the specific contributions of Vanished_6551232 (T-C-L-K-R-D) , it does look like old Rlevse himself, editing under that account since he scrambled his Rlevse password on Halloween. Oooohh, wait will Giano realizes this....

Don't take him off hivemind yet, Brandt.

Uhh.... I think you're a few steps behind the game. Avraham openly renamed Rlvese's account to Vanished_6551232 in order to obscure his contributions once he decided to "vanish". ALL of Rlvese's diffs can be found in vanished's contributions

Sure enough-- I didn't look down the page far enough.

Okay, riddle me this, Fatman: if Avraham actually opened the Vanished_6551232 account for Rlevse, why is he now indef blocking it, saying vanished users have no reason to be posting comments? Is Avraham starting to get embarassed by Giano's rather pointed comments that Rlevse is not going to vanish at all, in any sense of the word? What?

You're not going to tell me that Avraham JUST NOW noticed that Rlevse was using this account to post comments under his Rlevse username? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif)

[powercorrupts]

And 05:04, November 8, 2010 Avraham (talk | contribs) blocked Vanished 6551232 (talk | contribs) (account creation blocked, autoblock disabled) with an expiry time of indefinite ‎ (Vanished users do not need to edit)

Not sure if "(Vanished users do not need to edit)" makes sense, but Rlevse is clearly now keeping his head down.

Oh well, it was just mere comedy and not vandalism at all. What kind of fruitcake goes around saying "peace" anyway? Machiavellian is one thing, but the froth of Wikipedia are real nutcases too.

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[Milton Roe]

And 05:04, November 8, 2010 Avraham (talk | contribs) blocked Vanished 6551232 (talk | contribs) (account creation blocked, autoblock disabled) with an expiry time of indefinite ‎ (Vanished users do not need to edit)

Not sure if "(Vanished users do not need to edit)" makes sense, but Rlevse is clearly now keeping his head down.

It doesn't make much sense, actually. Traditionally there's been a difference made between "editing" (which generally refers to editing articles in mainspace) and posting TALK comments. What this really means is: "We don't want to be hearing from you, Rlevse, especially not while we're in the middle of blocking Giano for disruption, when he insists you're not really gone...." (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif)

[Alison]

And 05:04, November 8, 2010 Avraham (talk | contribs) blocked Vanished 6551232 (talk | contribs) (account creation blocked, autoblock disabled) with an expiry time of indefinite ‎ (Vanished users do not need to edit)

"autoblock disabled"? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/hmmm.gif)

[Abd]

And 05:04, November 8, 2010 Avraham (talk | contribs) blocked Vanished 6551232 (talk | contribs) (account creation blocked, autoblock disabled) with an expiry time of indefinite ‎ (Vanished users do not need to edit)

"autoblock disabled"? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/hmmm.gif)

Good catch, Alison. It's blatantly obvious what that means.

Look, Rlevse wasn't the brightest bulb on the tree, but not the worst either.

On the other hand, those who sit in judgment of others find that the searchlight of judgment gets turned back on them. Oops!

But the hypocrisy is what shines through the most. Not Rlevse, who obviously recognizes that he screwed up, and royally, but the rest of the crowd on both sides. Attacking the current scapegoat and protecting their friends, and never stopping to look at the central problem: an abusive system, a monster that eventually eats those who feed it.

[Alison]

And 05:04, November 8, 2010 Avraham (talk | contribs) blocked Vanished 6551232 (talk | contribs) (account creation blocked, autoblock disabled) with an expiry time of indefinite ‎ (Vanished users do not need to edit)

"autoblock disabled"? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/hmmm.gif)

Good catch, Alison. It's blatantly obvious what that means.

My first thought when I saw this was 'LOLWUT?' I emailed Avi to ask what he was at when he did that, and apparently he just assumed Rlevse was on a dynamic IP and that there was no reason to block *that* too. When I pointed out what it looked like, esp. a block coming from a checkuser, he shat bricks (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) Guess he won't do that again ...

[GlassBeadGame]

My first thought when I saw this was 'LOLWUT?'

Putting the obsessive on-wiki politics aside, are you getting stupider?

[Alison]

Putting the obsessive on-wiki politics aside, are you getting stupider?

No. Are you?

[GlassBeadGame]

Putting the obsessive on-wiki politics aside, are you getting stupider?

No. Are you?

So you need a web page to work through the lamest level of irony?

[Alison]

Putting the obsessive on-wiki politics aside, are you getting stupider?

No. Are you?

So you need a web page to work through the lamest level of irony?

At least I answered the question, Ass-bead. Can we take this as a yes? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif)

[GlassBeadGame]

Putting the obsessive on-wiki politics aside, are you getting stupider?

No. Are you?

So you need a web page to work through the lamest level of irony?

At least I answered the question, Ass-bead. Can we take this as a yes? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif)

I bet you slay the kiddies on 4chan and your ED homeland.

[Alison]

I bet you slay the kiddies on 4chan and your ED homeland.

I don't hang out on 4chan any more - haven't in years. And yeah, had to get the ol' ED dig in there, eh? Real soon, you'll end this thread with your trademark "Fuck off!", like you usually do when you run out of wind. Round about now, in fact.

This is so inane. Go have the last word and walk off with a 'win' or whatever you need to stroke your ego. Same garbage, different day (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/bored.gif)

[Ottava]

I bet you slay the kiddies on 4chan and your ED homeland.

I don't hang out on 4chan any more - haven't in years. And yeah, had to get the ol' ED dig in there, eh? Real soon, you'll end this thread with your trademark "Fuck off!", like you usually do when you run out of wind. Round about now, in fact.

This is so inane. Go have the last word and walk off with a 'win' or whatever you need to stroke your ego. Same garbage, different day (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/bored.gif)

Why is every thread about you guys? Why can't we talk about the amusing antics of the Fat Man for once?

By the way, I love participating in Irony.

As a question, if I am in love with some of your comments, does that make me gay? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif)




This random bit of nonsense was paid for by the Free Ottava 2010 Committee. Treasurer: The Fat Man Who Might Have Came Back.

[carbuncle]

As a question, if I am in love with some of your comments, does that make me gay? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif)

I have alway just assumed that you were gay. Aren't you?

[Zoloft]

As a question, if I am in love with some of your comments, does that make me gay? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif)

I have alway just assumed that you were gay. Aren't you?

I feel Ottava is gay only in the eldest sense of the word.

[MZMcBride]

Putting the obsessive on-wiki politics aside, are you getting stupider?

No. Are you?

Hmm. The "No." link returns an error for me. Another secret part of the site?

[Lar]

Putting the obsessive on-wiki politics aside, are you getting stupider?

No. Are you?

Hmm. The "No." link returns an error for me. Another secret part of the site?

Apparently. So therefore that link needs to be oversighted out of existence....

[Gruntled]

Putting the obsessive on-wiki politics aside, are you getting stupider?

No. Are you?

"stupider" is of course a well-known word, attested to by an impeccable source:

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/stupider

It's also in the Official Scrabble Dictionary, not that anyone thinks that's more reliable than Wiktionary.

[A Horse With No Name]

As a question, if I am in love with some of your comments, does that make me gay? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif)

Ottava Rima: Guys want to be like him! Girls want to be with him! Some guys also want to be with him! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/evilgrin.gif) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/evilgrin.gif) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/evilgrin.gif) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/evilgrin.gif)

[Obesity]

My first thought when I saw this was 'LOLWUT?'

Putting the obsessive on-wiki politics aside, are you getting stupider?

GLASSBEADGAME FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME, this subforum is for people who LIEK WIKIPEDIA!!!!!!! you go away and go hang out in the grown ups forum and DON'T INSULT ALISON SHE IS MY GIRLFRIEND (or as the 14 year-old kids say, my "wifey")

[Obesity]

these new admins don't put up with a shred of fun or nonsense. I HATE THEM!!!!!!!!!

This is like the 4th time I've been indeffed in the past 2 years, and this time I didn't even to anything (except call people who use AN/I "douche," a fairly benign colloquial term that I frequently direct toward my cat and my sister).

Well, somebody purporting to be an Rlevse new account got tromped on. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unhappy.gif)

Avraham has no sense of humor. Which is okay, since Rlevse didn't either.

Peace, everyone. Rlevse

Hahaha. That's got to be in all time Top 10 comedy vandalism.

Hrmmm...

Good point. I noticed the non-vandal diffs at the time but failed to see the signifance. Looking at the diffs of the specific contributions of Vanished_6551232 (T-C-L-K-R-D) , it does look like old Rlevse himself, editing under that account since he scrambled his Rlevse password on Halloween. Oooohh, wait will Giano realizes this....

Don't take him off hivemind yet, Brandt.

Uhh.... I think you're a few steps behind the game. Avraham openly renamed Rlvese's account to Vanished_6551232 in order to obscure his contributions once he decided to "vanish". ALL of Rlvese's diffs can be found in vanished's contributions

Sure enough-- I didn't look down the page far enough.

Okay, riddle me this, Fatman: if Avraham actually opened the Vanished_6551232 account for Rlevse, why is he now indef blocking it, saying vanished users have no reason to be posting comments? Is Avraham starting to get embarassed by Giano's rather pointed comments that Rlevse is not going to vanish at all, in any sense of the word? What?

You're not going to tell me that Avraham JUST NOW noticed that Rlevse was using this account to post comments under his Rlevse username? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif)

I think you're right; Avraham was trying to preempt any further trouble or controversy by the unstable Rlevse. And I think he has some sort of policy on his side in blocking the account.

these new admins don't put up with a shred of fun or nonsense. I HATE THEM!!!!!!!!!

This is like the 4th time I've been indeffed in the past 2 years, and this time I didn't even to anything (except call people who use AN/I "douche," a fairly benign colloquial term that I frequently direct toward my cat and my sister).

A drunk man walks into a bar and orders a drink. While he waits for the bartender to mix his cocktail, he notices a woman alone at the end of the bar. When his drink comes, he says, "Hey b-b-b-artender. Give that douche bag at the end of the bar a drink for me."
The bartender tells the drunk to keep his voice down, but the drunk is belligerent. "Give that douche bag a drink, dammit!" he shouts.
The bartender becomes angry. "Sir, I will not permit you to sit here and call the lady names."
The drunk persists. "For the last time, bartender, bring me my drink and give that douche bag down there a drink, too!"
Attempting to quell the growing disturbance, the bartender approaches the woman and apologizes for the behavior of the drunk. "The gentleman insists upon buying you a drink, ma'am. What can I get for you?"
The woman replies, "Oh,... I'll have a vinegar and water, please!"

I salute you sir, with your own cocktail, named for you:

Obesity Called Me a Douche

2 oz. cheap gin, say Beefeater Gin

3/4 oz. lemon liqueur, say Paula's Texas Lemon

1/2 oz. lemon juice

1/2 oz. balsamic vinegar

1 oz. cane syrup

2 in. lemon peel

Put all of the above except the peel in an ice-filled cocktail shaker and shake until chilled.
Decant into a Manhattan glass and wring out the peel into the cocktail. Drop it in.

Place a glass of mineral water nearby as a chaser.

*Plagiarized, adapted, and shaken from a recipe in the Washington Times

thank you, i am honored and humbled

[Obesity]

these new admins don't put up with a shred of fun or nonsense. I HATE THEM!!!!!!!!!

This is like the 4th time I've been indeffed in the past 2 years, and this time I didn't even do anything (except call people who use AN/I "douche," a fairly benign colloquial term that I frequently direct toward my cat and my sister).

I JUST GOT INDEFFED AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

what is with these admins?

I am mystified and disappointed.

[Ottava]

these new admins don't put up with a shred of fun or nonsense. I HATE THEM!!!!!!!!!

This is like the 4th time I've been indeffed in the past 2 years, and this time I didn't even do anything (except call people who use AN/I "douche," a fairly benign colloquial term that I frequently direct toward my cat and my sister).

I JUST GOT INDEFFED AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

what is with these admins?

I am mystified and disappointed.

We are like twins now, in the sense that Arnold Swartznegger was the twin of that short fat guy. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif)





By the way, if I am brought back I will run for adminship on the platform of unblocking the Fat Man whenever I can. This ad was paid for by the Free Ottava 2010 Committee. Treasurer: your mom.

[Obesity]

We are like twins now, in the sense that Arnold Swartznegger was the twin of that short fat guy. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif)

I see you more as The Cable Guy.

[Mike R]

By the way, if I am brought back I will run for adminship on the platform of unblocking the Fat Man whenever I can.

I as well may run for adminship and/or arbcom on the platform of unblocking The Fat Man and generally tolerating his antics.

[Obesity]

By the way, if I am brought back I will run for adminship on the platform of unblocking the Fat Man whenever I can.

I as well may run for adminship and/or arbcom on the platform of unblocking The Fat Man and generally tolerating his antics.

How many edits do you have these days?

[Mike R]

By the way, if I am brought back I will run for adminship on the platform of unblocking the Fat Man whenever I can.

I as well may run for adminship and/or arbcom on the platform of unblocking The Fat Man and generally tolerating his antics.

How many edits do you have these days?

i don't know, a few thousand prolly

[Obesity]

By the way, if I am brought back I will run for adminship on the platform of unblocking the Fat Man whenever I can.

I as well may run for adminship and/or arbcom on the platform of unblocking The Fat Man and generally tolerating his antics.

How many edits do you have these days?

i don't know, a few thousand prolly

Get User:Bad edits r dumb to co-nominate you.

[EricBarbour]

Get User:Bad edits r dumb to co-nominate you.

Captain Picard has this for you, nerd. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/biggrin.gif)

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[Cla68]

these new admins don't put up with a shred of fun or nonsense. I HATE THEM!!!!!!!!!

This is like the 4th time I've been indeffed in the past 2 years, and this time I didn't even do anything (except call people who use AN/I "douche," a fairly benign colloquial term that I frequently direct toward my cat and my sister).

I JUST GOT INDEFFED AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

what is with these admins?

I am mystified and disappointed.

That's cool that the moderator for the forum for people who supposedly like Wikipedia has been banned from Wikipedia.

[GlassBeadGame]

these new admins don't put up with a shred of fun or nonsense. I HATE THEM!!!!!!!!!

This is like the 4th time I've been indeffed in the past 2 years, and this time I didn't even do anything (except call people who use AN/I "douche," a fairly benign colloquial term that I frequently direct toward my cat and my sister).

I JUST GOT INDEFFED AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

what is with these admins?

I am mystified and disappointed.

That's cool that the moderator for the forum for people who supposedly like Wikipedia has been banned from Wikipedia.

You almost have to love Wikipedia to get banned. Otherwise once it is clear that it isn't working out you just leave.

[Milton Roe]

You almost have to love Wikipedia to get banned. Otherwise once it is clear that it isn't working out you just leave.

This is true for organized religions, too. Those who can't get it out of their systems have to get excommunicated or lead anticult groups. Whereas, those who just see the light, tend to just go away...

And (yes) I care about Wikipedia. I care about the concept and the good content (which does exist). The thing is an imperfect monstrosity, like the French revolution. But you can see the glimmer of the future of France in there, somewhere. If you can look past the gillotines and so on.

I just wish that WP had been like the American revolution, which was a pretty cool revolution, as revolutions go. Far neater than anything of the time. I don't think anybody got up to those standards again until the Soviet bloc disintegration, and South Africa, a couple of centuries later.

[Zoloft]

By the way, if I am brought back I will run for adminship on the platform of unblocking the Fat Man whenever I can.

I as well may run for adminship and/or arbcom on the platform of unblocking The Fat Man and generally tolerating his antics.

How many edits do you have these days?

i don't know, a few thousand prolly

prolly indeed

[It's the blimp, Frank]

I just wish that WP had been like the American revolution, which was a pretty cool revolution, as revolutions go. Far neater than anything of the time. I don't think anybody got up to those standards again until the Soviet bloc disintegration

Bad comparison. The American revolution had a positive and entirely new conception of what a nation ought to be, and this was lacking in the collapse of the USSR.

[tarantino]

these new admins don't put up with a shred of fun or nonsense. I HATE THEM!!!!!!!!!

This is like the 4th time I've been indeffed in the past 2 years, and this time I didn't even do anything (except call people who use AN/I "douche," a fairly benign colloquial term that I frequently direct toward my cat and my sister).

I JUST GOT INDEFFED AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

what is with these admins?

I am mystified and disappointed.

Have you seen all the busybodies messing with your user page? I think it should just be reverted to this version and left alone.

[Abd]

You almost have to love Wikipedia to get banned. Otherwise once it is clear that it isn't working out you just leave.

This is true for organized religions, too. Those who can't get it out of their systems have to get excommunicated or lead anticult groups. Whereas, those who just see the light, tend to just go away...

And (yes) I care about Wikipedia. I care about the concept and the good content (which does exist). The thing is an imperfect monstrosity, like the French revolution. But you can see the glimmer of the future of France in there, somewhere. If you can look past the gillotines and so on.

Actually, you just need to read the policies and guidelines and believe that the community, where it counts when you run into conflict, follows them.

Wikipedia vignette. Being led to the "gillotine," the editor points out that the word is not spelled correctly. The crowd denounces him as a wikilawyer, and anyone attempting to correct the spelling is also "gillotined" as a "meat puppet."

I got in trouble, that MYOB thing, when I saw editors who obviously passionately loved Wikipedia who were being roundly abused, instead of guided, and tried to help. The thing about extending special consideration to major contributors is bullshit, if the major contributor runs afoul of influential administrators. My favorite example: Per Honor et Gloria (T-C-L-K-R-D) . previously known as PHG.

[Zoloft]

these new admins don't put up with a shred of fun or nonsense. I HATE THEM!!!!!!!!!

This is like the 4th time I've been indeffed in the past 2 years, and this time I didn't even do anything (except call people who use AN/I "douche," a fairly benign colloquial term that I frequently direct toward my cat and my sister).

I JUST GOT INDEFFED AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

what is with these admins?

I am mystified and disappointed.

Have you seen all the busybodies messing with your user page? I think it should just be reverted to this version and left alone.

Is anyone over there *gestures rudely in the general direction of Wikipedia* handling how you want your page to look? What are your wishes, Obesity? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/ermm.gif)

[Abd]

I JUST GOT INDEFFED AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

what is with these admins?

I am mystified and disappointed.

* Totally unfair, in that the general rule is that users aren't blocked for responding uncivilly to being blocked.

* Gains practically no sympathy from me, because what do you expect when you poke bears?

I reserve my sympathy for those who have been abused when they rationally expected reasonable treatment.

I'd prefer, of course, that Obesity be unblocked, but I'd prefer that hosts of blocked editors be unblocked, that blocks be used preventatively, based on proven risk, with what is generally recommended, gradual escalation, and only when actually needed. Incivility on the user's own talk page is generally tolerable, particularly when it is general -- or directed at an admin who has blocked the user.

But, of course, politically it's a Bad Idea, and shows that the user cares more about spewing out whatever the user thinks rather than considering what the community needs to settle the disruption. But as the Encyclopedia that Anyone Can Edit, some allowance must be made for emotional immaturity. Even if the user is sixty years old, not to mention if younger.

I just would not deal with this with an indef block, and, in fact, the user should have been simply left for the block to expire. Ranting and raving about being blocked, on the users own Talk page, quite simply, is just, for some, to be expected and should be discounted. It does little harm because nobody is obligated to read it. If he comes off the 48 hour block and goes to, say, AN/I, and rants about the "douche" who blocked him, well, maybe a week block.... etc.

[Milton Roe]

these new admins don't put up with a shred of fun or nonsense. I HATE THEM!!!!!!!!!

This is like the 4th time I've been indeffed in the past 2 years, and this time I didn't even do anything (except call people who use AN/I "douche," a fairly benign colloquial term that I frequently direct toward my cat and my sister).

I JUST GOT INDEFFED AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!

what is with these admins?

I am mystified and disappointed.

Have you seen all the busybodies messing with your user page? I think it should just be reverted to this version and left alone.

Thanks for that link. There's more irony on Fatso's TALK than the entire rest of Wikipedia combined. It's like an elephant graveyard of facetious writing. You've been keeping it secret! Perhaps this is where all the irony-overloaded WP admins and editors go, to dump their loads. To let off pressure. A safety valve, if you like, in the haven of the irony-impaired that is Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The...Never_Came_Back

You know how it's been mentioned how bad Ottava needs a blowjob? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wtf.gif) Well, that's how bad I need to do something like visit the Fat Man's TALK page and be sarcastic, just for a little bit.

Thank god for WR.

[EricBarbour]

Have you seen all the busybodies messing with your user page? I think it should just be reverted to this version and left alone.

(IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) Encyclopedia? What encyclopedia?

[Somey]

I just would not deal with this with an indef block, and, in fact, the user should have been simply left for the block to expire.

Looks like he's been unblocked again, this time by Gimmetrow (T-C-L-K-R-D) , though it's not clear as to whether or not Mr. Gimmetrow received any additional trow for unblocking him.

Maybe the name is supposed to refer to a "gimmet row," except there's no such word as "gimmet." He could have meant "gibbet," but that would be extremely disturbing if he meant to invoke the image of a row of gibbets.

[Eva Destruction]

I just would not deal with this with an indef block, and, in fact, the user should have been simply left for the block to expire.

Looks like he's been unblocked again, this time by Gimmetrow (T-C-L-K-R-D) , though it's not clear as to whether or not Mr. Gimmetrow received any additional trow for unblocking him.

Maybe the name is supposed to refer to a "gimmet row," except there's no such word as "gimmet." He could have meant "gibbet," but that would be extremely disturbing if he meant to invoke the image of a row of gibbets.

"represents a blending of new and old, represented by the slang term gimme (used in bands, various songs and TV shows), and the archaic word trow, meaning to trust or to believe", according to his userpage. In my experience he's generally one of the good guys.

[Somey]

"represents a blending of new and old, represented by the slang term gimme (used in bands, various songs and TV shows), and the archaic word trow, meaning to trust or to believe", according to his userpage. In my experience he's generally one of the good guys.

Ah! The ol' portmanteau of the urban slang with the Middle English disused-vernacular trick! That's the second time I've fallen for it this year...

The sad thing is, I'm formally trained to expect both contempo and classique, in almost every situation - and still I have this problem. No doubt this is what has finally led me to the sorry state in which you see me now, except that you don't see me because I'm just a bunch of lines of text on a computer screen.

I need a sandwich...

[GlassBeadGame]

"represents a blending of new and old, represented by the slang term gimme (used in bands, various songs and TV shows), and the archaic word trow, meaning to trust or to believe", according to his userpage. In my experience he's generally one of the good guys.

Ah! The ol' portmanteau of the urban slang with the Middle English disused-vernacular trick! That's the second time I've fallen for it this year...

The sad thing is, I'm formally trained to expect both contempo and classique, in almost every situation - and still I have this problem. No doubt this is what has finally led me to the sorry state in which you see me now, except that you don't see me because I'm just a bunch of lines of text on a computer screen.

I need a sandwich...

A community built upon the rock of smarty-pantsism gets to be a pretty tiresome place.

[Obesity]

A community built upon the rock of smarty-pantsism gets to be a pretty tiresome place.

MAEYBE IF UR DUM AND UNEDUCAET AND STUPID THEN U WIL NOT LIEK TO HANG OUT WITH US BUT IF UR SMRT AND U GO TO GUD COLLEGE AND U REED THE CLASSICS AND U KNO SOEM LANGUAEG AND SOE LITERISM REFERANCE U WILL APPRECIAET OUR HUMOR SO PLS GO AWAY IF UR DUM AND GO HANG OUT ON OTHER WEBSIET

[Ottava]

I just would not deal with this with an indef block, and, in fact, the user should have been simply left for the block to expire.

Looks like he's been unblocked again, this time by Gimmetrow (T-C-L-K-R-D) , though it's not clear as to whether or not Mr. Gimmetrow received any additional trow for unblocking him.

Maybe the name is supposed to refer to a "gimmet row," except there's no such word as "gimmet." He could have meant "gibbet," but that would be extremely disturbing if he meant to invoke the image of a row of gibbets.

"represents a blending of new and old, represented by the slang term gimme (used in bands, various songs and TV shows), and the archaic word trow, meaning to trust or to believe", according to his userpage. In my experience he's generally one of the good guys.

I've fought with him over various things, but I would trust him over most of the people on Wiki.

By the way, Eva, I love the new image. Peter Rabbit was always wonderful. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)

[Obesity]

Thanks for that link. There's more irony on Fatso's TALK than the entire rest of Wikipedia combined. It's like an elephant graveyard of facetious writing. You've been keeping it secret! Perhaps this is where all the irony-overloaded WP admins and editors go, to dump their loads. To let off pressure. A safety valve, if you like, in the haven of the irony-impaired that is Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The...Never_Came_Back

You know how it's been mentioned how bad Ottava needs a blowjob? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wtf.gif) Well, that's how bad I need to do something like visit the Fat Man's TALK page and be sarcastic, just for a little bit.

Thank god for WR.

Why thank you for noticing; I never aspired to be known as the "sarcastic" or "snarky" guy, as I associate both qualities with unpleasant people. But something about THOSE PEOPLE just provokes these sorts of responses.

You should check out the archives; the stuff currently on my talk page pales in comparison to this crap:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:The_Fat_...e_Back/Archives

Much of it is very entertaining reading--and I do not say so out of immodesty, for it's only partially my work; visitors to my talk page over the years have rarely failed to blow my mind

[Abd]

I just would not deal with this with an indef block, and, in fact, the user should have been simply left for the block to expire.

Looks like he's been unblocked again, this time by Gimmetrow (T-C-L-K-R-D) , though it's not clear as to whether or not Mr. Gimmetrow received any additional trow for unblocking him.

Maybe the name is supposed to refer to a "gimmet row," except there's no such word as "gimmet." He could have meant "gibbet," but that would be extremely disturbing if he meant to invoke the image of a row of gibbets.

Moments of sanity. My comment that Obesity should have been left for the block to expire did not imply that there would be anything wrong with sooner unblocking.

Wikipedia, however, sets itself up for disruption far beyond what is necessary, by not providing clear guidance on such matters as incivility, and support for users to help them follow the guidance. Most people can and will behave when behavioral limits are clear, and socially supported.

When civility guidelines are strictly applied but only occasionally or selectively, that's not support. In a whole series of ways, Wikipedia has set itself up to be continually shot in the foot. It burns out users, on all sides.

It may or may not be utterly impossible to reform the structure on-wiki. If enough users would organize off-wiki toward that end, setting up structures to find and maintain consensus among themselves, they could pull it off. It's tricky, because such off-wiki strictures will be attacked, it's guaranteed. But it can be done. To me, the question is how many users would it take? Two is probably not enough, but benefit could start to accrue to the users, if it's properly done, with as little as three. I'm still waiting for a third person to say, hey, what's there to lose, I'll try it! Meanwhile the second person who "joined" has been indeffed. But it's still possible that one more would do the trick, just a little more difficult.

I'm not surprised, I've seen this everywhere.

Lift a finger, save the world. But few will lift a finger.

And of those who do, half lift the middle finger with the hand turned around....

[Herschelkrustofsky]

Thanks for that link. There's more irony on Fatso's TALK than the entire rest of Wikipedia combined. It's like an elephant graveyard of facetious writing. You've been keeping it secret! Perhaps this is where all the irony-overloaded WP admins and editors go, to dump their loads. To let off pressure. A safety valve, if you like, in the haven of the irony-impaired that is Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:The...Never_Came_Back

I like the Goya section.

[MZMcBride]

Nobody noted this?

[Milton Roe]

Nobody noted this?

A fascinating discussion about whether or not prickishness is as bad as douchebaggery. Upon such doth the fate of Fatso rest.

NOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!! i will submit to mentorship and adoption and arbcom sanctions and all manner of indignities. but pls don't block me because i have a lot of constructive edit todo before i die. :-(--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 22:17, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Even SlimVirgin has voted to have him back. Yet one more bit of evidence of her new prescription for Canadian Weed.

[EricBarbour]

Every comment here, including this one, is troll feeding. --jpgordon::==( o ) 22:04, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM P-:--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 22:07, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Yup. See ya. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:06, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Why, again, are we not blocking him until he starts acting like an adult human being again? --Conti|✉ 22:10, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Not sure, clearly hasn't changed and is evading block. Someone just do it. Netalarmtalk 22:14, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

NOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!! i will submit to mentorship and adoption and arbcom sanctions and all manner of indignities. but pls don't block me because i have a lot of constructive edit todo before i die. :-(--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 22:17, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

I can only hope this means you're going to die soon... HalfShadow 22:19, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Possibly at the end of something resembling cable. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:23, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

HE MADE DEATH THREATS TO ME!--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 22:27, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

I don't think so. Looks like a hope for divine intervention of some kind. That's not a death threat. Unless he has God's private phone number on speed-dial. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:29, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Times like this I wish the computer had a punch button. Isn't there a cartoon you could be watching, Fat? HalfShadow 22:32, 6 December 2010 (UTC) HalfShadow 22:32, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

* Judging by that block log, the blocked sock and the several nonsensical comments above, the user is either on a long-term trolling campaign or simply does not have the temperament required for useful contribution in a collegial, collaborative, adult environment. I agree with Jayron32 and Eagles247 and support an indefinite block. Sandstein 22:18, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

i hope you do not become an arbcom sandstein becos you are wrong in this case. also a lot of my block log are outright MISTAKES (do your research) but a couple of them were legitamate and things like this.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 22:23, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Pictogram voting info.svg Administrator note: I have blocked User:The Fat Man Who Never Came Back indefinitely for trolling and disruption. Eagles 24/7 © 22:35, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

And it keeps going!!! They even tried to vote, and I count 13 to block, 11 to unblock.
They are all crazy. That's the only possible conclusion I can reach.

Well played, Obie. Wish I could call this "funny", but it's too disgusting. Sorry.

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[Obesity]

Disclosure request. Could users commenting here to support an unblock please state if they are Wikipedia Review contributors. (We'll assume block supporters aren't, but if any are, please state as well.) Rd232 talk 08:49, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

LOLZARDS

[TungstenCarbide]

And it keeps going!!! They even tried to vote, and I count 13 to block, 11 to unblock.They are all crazy. That's the only possible conclusion I can reach.

Ya, Obesity has found his niche. Wikipedia is the perfect place for him, they deserve eachother.

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[Ottava]

Well, I think he is fine. The sad thing is that the people accusing The Fat Man of not contributing don't contribute. What a backward system.

[EricBarbour]

Well, I think he is fine. The sad thing is that the people accusing The Fat Man of not contributing don't contribute. What a backward system.

That's an understatement. Eagles247 does very little other than:
1) micromanage Philadelphia Eagles-related articles,
2) troll AN/I,
3) and occasionally revert vandalism.
They made another mutant into an admin.

And the lunatic rant is still going.......

There is clearly no consensus for or against this block. Newyorkbrad's question needs answering: in this situation do we default to block or unblock? Defaulting to block smells a bit off to me. Anthony (talk) 19:49, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

I could go either way. The manner of the block is off-putting, but the conduct probably justified the block. I note also that TFM has not edited since being blocked - I'm hesitant to unblock until we have a request, all things being equal. UltraExactZZ Said ~ Did 19:58, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

* I agree with you, Ultraexactzz, but TFM has promised not to troll twice already in the past (see Kingpin's diffs somewhere in here), and has never made good on his promises. Eagles 24/7 © 20:12, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

I wasn't so much interested in more discussion about the merits of the block. It's pretty clear there's no consensus on that. The question that began this thread was what do we default to when there is no clear consensus? Anthony (talk) 20:16, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

The default position is the one existing immediately before the matter was raised; TFMWNCB being not blocked in this instance. Blocking is a function exercised by an admin on behalf of the community, by means either of a directly expressed consensus or that by which the community entrusted them with the tools. As Brad pondered, once it is evident that no consensus exists for the new status then the old one must be resumed. Oh, and whilst I am pontificating - to Wehwalt: It is the other way round - the admin defers to the community. Every. Single. Time. LessHeard vanU (talk) 20:46, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict)It seems pretty clear that the answer to Newyorkbrad's question is that we default to unblock, because our default position is that "anybody can edit"; if we default the other way, surely we're modifying that tagline (and the rest of our attitude/positioning) to something other than that. It's similar, i reckon, to the default in an AfD being "keep", because with the lack of consensus the opinion of notability outweighs that of non-notability; here, with no consensus the ability to edit outweighs the other. Cheers, LindsayHi 20:51, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

In the NFL, when an official rules a play a certain way (i.e. an incomplete pass), the head coaches have the option to challenge the play if they deem it incorrect. The official goes in for a instant replay review, and there has to be indisputable evidence that the call should be reversed. Just a thought, though I doubt Wikipedia is for this. Eagles 24/7 © 21:03, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

The ones who are so keen on unblocking Fat/BErD should be compelled to assume responsibility for constantly monitoring its activities. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:09, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

I volunteer (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) Anthony (talk) 21:13, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Dontcha think that's a bit petty, Bugs? We all monitor; even if he is unblocked, as i think he ought to be, with his record, and assuming and giving benefit of doubt, it won't be long till he trolls again, and is blocked *with* process. Then we'll spend a minute or two picking up the pieces, and moving on. Meantime, i'll help, Anthony. Cheers, LindsayHi

I should clarify that instead of "ones" I should have said "admins". Is it petty? Well, he's got two indef'd socks. How petty is that? ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:20, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

YOU ARE ALL ASSHOLES. OKAY???

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[RMHED]

Well, I think he is fine. The sad thing is that the people accusing The Fat Man of not contributing don't contribute. What a backward system.

That's an understatement. Eagles247 does very little other than:
1) micromanage Philadelphia Eagles-related articles,
2) troll AN/I,
3) and occasionally revert vandalism.
They made another mutant into an admin.

Baseball Bugs must be one of the most useless cuntmonkeys on Wikipedia. He seems to live on the AN/I page.

[TungstenCarbide]

this is funny
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=400933828

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[Cla68]

this is funny
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=400933828

Those teenage admins seem to be fairly easy to troll.

[lilburne]

this is funny
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=400933828

Those teenage admins seem to be fairly easy to troll.

Recently I was in Delhi and by the 3rd day had such a severe stomach cramp in the Qutub Minar that I made a rush for the public toilet. The stench was so overpowering that my cramp was pretty much cured, until I got back to the hotel. However, it wasn't nearly as bad as the stench that Jayron32 and Eagles247 surround themselves with.

[RMHED]

this is funny
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=400933828

Those teenage admins seem to be fairly easy to troll.

Recently I was in Delhi and by the 3rd day had such a severe stomach cramp in the Qutub Minar that I made a rush for the public toilet. The stench was so overpowering that my cramp was pretty much cured, until I got back to the hotel. However, it wasn't nearly as bad as the stench that Jayron32 and Eagles247 surround themselves with.

That's the stench of self-righteousness. Wikipedia positively reeks of it.

[Obesity]

who is Jayron32? the name sounds familiar.

did he used to be called something else?

[Cla68]

who is Jayron32? the name sounds familiar.

did he used to be called something else?

Fat Man, how are you supposed to moderate the thread for people who like Wikipedia if you're banned from there? Do you still like Wikipedia?

[lilburne]

who is Jayron32? the name sounds familiar.

did he used to be called something else?

Probably still called StinkyPants at skool. Definitely a hall monitor if ever there was one,.

[radek]

TFM should be unblocked simply for having Stanczyk on his user page.

[RMHED]

TFM should be unblocked simply for having Stanczyk on his user page.

Fatty's real crime was of course mocking an admin, unlike Baseball Bugs who mostly just licks their arses, in a sad desperate attempt to be accepted.

[SB_Johnny]

Amazingly, the hand-wringing and de-bait goes on. Mostly just Baseball Bugs taking on all comers, of course.

[It's the blimp, Frank]

Amazingly, the hand-wringing and de-bait goes on.

Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (T-H-L-K-D)
Not very impressive. Is that all you got?

[Obesity]

Amazingly, the hand-wringing and de-bait goes on.

Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (T-H-L-K-D)
Not very impressive. Is that all you got?

that is an odd collection. I am not Cowl head, by the way. I'm not sure who dreamed that up.

I have never trolled as TFMWLBRASWL. I made, like, four silly edits as "Watching Wales".

The only alternate account that caused any significant amount of trouble was Bad edits r dumb, and his worst crime was refusing to type in "standard English"

i am many things, but i'm not much of a sockmaster

[Alison]

Fat Man is not 'Cowl head' - I just checked. On my cell here, but someone should fix that :|

[Milton Roe]

Amazingly, the hand-wringing and de-bait goes on.

Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (T-H-L-K-D)
Not very impressive. Is that all you got?

that is an odd collection. I am not Cowl head, by the way. I'm not sure who dreamed that up.

I have never trolled as TFMWLBRASWL. I made, like, four silly edits as "Watching Wales".

The only alternate account that caused any significant amount of trouble was Bad edits r dumb, and his worst crime was refusing to type in "standard English"

i am many things, but i'm not much of a sockmaster

Soon we'll be down to a cat page that contains only two items.

This page being set up by a user who says he hates sarcasm, but (as his username shows and he admits) is a big fan of one of the most ironic and sarcastic films of all time, Dr. Strangelove. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/huh.gif) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/hmmm.gif) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wacko.gif) Go figure.

Perhaps he's a fan due to being concerned with Purity of Essence?

You know, Assange should not have avoided women, but he should have denied them his Essence. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wink.gif)