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Posted by: victim of censorship

Just wonder any body know about Tim Song and Tedder??

Posted by: Sarcasticidealist

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Wed 31st March 2010, 1:03am) *
Just wonder any body know about Tim Song and Tedder??
Off-wiki, I believe both are active in Chicago street gangs.

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Sarcasticidealist @ Wed 31st March 2010, 5:09am) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Wed 31st March 2010, 1:03am) *
Just wonder any body know about Tim Song and Tedder??
Off-wiki, I believe both are active in Chicago street gangs.



Worst, Wikigang with far to much google juice.

Posted by: Ottava

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Wed 31st March 2010, 5:03am) *

Just wonder any body know about Tim Song and Tedder??


I saw some vandalism of Tim Song related stuff on non-Wikipedia WMF pages. Would this have anything to do with that?

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Ottava @ Wed 31st March 2010, 1:48pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Wed 31st March 2010, 5:03am) *

Just wonder any body know about Tim Song and Tedder??


I saw some vandalism of Tim Song related stuff on non-Wikipedia WMF pages. Would this have anything to do with that?


No... Not that I would like to, but My issue is the fact the your rank and file wp Admin is just a young numb nut rummy.

Posted by: MZMcBride

QUOTE(Sarcasticidealist @ Wed 31st March 2010, 1:09am) *
QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Wed 31st March 2010, 1:03am) *
Just wonder any body know about Tim Song and Tedder??
Off-wiki, I believe both are active in Chicago street gangs.
Win. laugh.gif

Posted by: Sarcasticidealist

QUOTE(Sarcasticidealist @ Wed 31st March 2010, 2:09am) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Wed 31st March 2010, 1:03am) *
Just wonder any body know about Tim Song and Tedder??
Off-wiki, I believe both are active in Chicago street gangs.
I should point out to anybody who might be stumbling in here without context that I have no reason to believe that either admin is actually active in Chicago street gangs; my suggestion that they were was intended to ridicule Vic's fixation on comparing Wikipedia's governance to that of a Chicago street gang. Rather a poor attempt at humour, probably, but nowhere near my worst.

Posted by: Tarc

What's got your dick in a pickle today, Joe?

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Sarcasticidealist @ Thu 1st April 2010, 3:08pm) *

QUOTE(Sarcasticidealist @ Wed 31st March 2010, 2:09am) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Wed 31st March 2010, 1:03am) *
Just wonder any body know about Tim Song and Tedder??
Off-wiki, I believe both are active in Chicago street gangs.
I should point out to anybody who might be stumbling in here without context that I have no reason to believe that either admin is actually active in Chicago street gangs; my suggestion that they were was intended to ridicule Vic's fixation on comparing Wikipedia's governance to that of a Chicago street gang. Rather a poor attempt at humour, probably, but nowhere near my worst.



Wikipedia governance, those two words are an Oxymoron. There is no governance, not in the sense of what most people understand the word.

What Wikipedia governance is more akin to 1920's Chicago during the beer wars between the rival gangs.


TO tarc... .my response is {expletives deleted}.

Posted by: Somey

I believe this has something to do with the use of Wikipedia (by Goethean (T-C-L-K-R-D) and one or two others) to http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Two_Brothers_Brewing&oldid=352969887#THIS_BLATANT_ADVERTISING_NEEDS_TO_BE_REMOVED_-_PRONTO in the Chicagoland area.

There are numerous legitimate reasons to oppose the use of Wikipedia for this purpose, not least of which is that beer consumption contributes to the nationwide obesity epidemic, as well as increases in drunk-driving-related fatalities.

Are microbreweries in other cities/states as well-represented on Wikipedia as the ones Goathead personally frequents in Chicago/Illinois? It appears so: There's a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Beer_brewing_companies_in_the_United_States_by_state, and I see that Michigan, Wisconsin, New York, Oregon (that's where Tedder (T-C-L-K-R-D) is from), Texas, and Pennsylvania are all far more well-represented than Illinois. (Maybe someone should check Goathead's contribs, though, since he might not be adding the appropriate categories to articles on his personal favorite microbreweries.)

Meanwhile, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Beer_brewing_companies_based_in_Iowa has only one microbrewery in its category, Millstream Brewing (T-H-L-K-D), located in the Amana Colonies (T-H-L-K-D). What a gyp! hrmph.gif

So, I guess I can't agree that this is something to be seriously concerned about, but to call it something other than "advertising" actually is a bit disingenuous, IMO.

Posted by: Sarcasticidealist

QUOTE(Somey @ Thu 1st April 2010, 1:59pm) *
Are microbreweries in other cities/states as well-represented on Wikipedia as the ones Goathead personally frequents in Chicago/Illinois?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picaroons_Traditional_Ales. Of the two in my former hometown, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber's_Brewing_Company is represented, while the other (the more prominent of the two, strangely) was http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alley_Kat_Brewing_Company&action=edit&redlink=1.

But yeah, it looks like giving microbreweries articles is standard.

Posted by: CharlotteWebb

QUOTE(VICTIM OF CENSORSHIP @ Thu 1st April 2010, 3:43pm) *

TO tarc... .my response is {expletives deleted}.

This post has been edited by Somey: Today, 4:42pm

Quoted for truth.

Posted by: Somey

QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Thu 1st April 2010, 1:24pm) *
Quoted for truth.

Well, I have asked Mr. Tarc to stop baiting Mr. Victim, and he doesn't seem to want to stop...

At the same time, it does seem a little odd that Mr. Victim would be involved in trying to delete articles about microbreweries, since these are local businesses that contribute at least something to the local economies in which they operate, and that's something a pro-business conservative such as Mr. Victim should (in theory) support. Though many would also argue that such establishments mostly just serve to get more people drunk before they drive home and beat up their kids.

I'm assuming Mr. Tarc didn't look at the contribs for Tim Song (T-C-L-K-R-D) or Tedder to see just what was really going on, which is perhaps unfortunate. Anyway, one thing we do know is that Goethean (T-C-L-K-R-D) likes beer. A lot. He doesn't really hide his identity anymore, so it's easy to find him all over the internet promoting beer, as well as his primary topic interest, that of Ken Wilber's so-called "Integralism" mumbo-jumbo. It strikes me that "Integralism" is precisely the sort of thing that an habitual beer-drinker would become involved with in lieu of an actual life philosophy...

I started writing a lengthy thread-start (or maybe it should be a blog post) about "Wilberism" cult-promotion on Wikipedia, but still haven't finished it... sorry about that! Goethean is only slightly less obvious than someone like Jossi or Bksimonb (T-C-L-K-R-D) in that regard, and considerably more successful at it than others we've seen - some of whom are far more reasonable about it too, such as our very own HRIP7 (aka Jayen466 (T-C-L-K-R-D) ).

Posted by: Tarc

QUOTE(Somey @ Thu 1st April 2010, 2:51pm) *

QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Thu 1st April 2010, 1:24pm) *
Quoted for truth.

Well, I have asked Mr. Tarc to stop baiting Mr. Victim, and he doesn't seem to want to stop...


Oh, stop being such a nancy-boy. So, some users are making wiki-articles to advertise non-notable breweries. In the grand scheme of all that is wrong with the Wikipedia, from ideological battlegrounds to unsourced BLP nightmares to dubious gay porn bios, THIS is what you want to rally the troops around?

"JoeHazleton" is this;

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and this;

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type of "conservative". Don't pretend that a rational, lucid conversation can ever be had with this.

Posted by: Somey

QUOTE(Tarc @ Thu 1st April 2010, 2:06pm) *
So, some users are making wiki-articles to advertise non-notable breweries. In the grand scheme of all that is wrong with the Wikipedia, from ideological battlegrounds to unsourced BLP nightmares to dubious gay porn bios, THIS is what you want to rally the troops around?

I don't believe you read the posts thoroughly - I'm agreeing that these articles are harmless and that Mr. Victim shouldn't be targeting the articles, or the promotion of microbreweries on WP in general.

However, the more clever players of the Wikipedia MMORPG know that the best way to insulate yourself from accusations of promoting something questionable, such as the Wilber cult, is to make lots of wiki-friends by helping to promote something popular, such as beer. Goethean is very good at this, but his personality is too abrasive to allow him the kind of success Jossi had for so long in promoting the Prem Rawat organization (just to give the most well-known/obvious example).

Finally, having rational, lucid conversations with someone like Mr. Victim isn't really the point. I'll admit it's probably impossible, but that doesn't mean everything he says is ludicrous or even wrong. (Just the parts I personally disagree with!)

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Somey @ Thu 1st April 2010, 4:59pm) *

I believe this has something to do with the use of Wikipedia (by Goethean (T-C-L-K-R-D) and one or two others) to http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Two_Brothers_Brewing&oldid=352969887#THIS_BLATANT_ADVERTISING_NEEDS_TO_BE_REMOVED_-_PRONTO in the Chicagoland area.

There are numerous legitimate reasons to oppose the use of Wikipedia for this purpose, not least of which is that beer consumption contributes to the nationwide obesity epidemic, as well as increases in drunk-driving-related fatalities.

Are microbreweries in other cities/states as well-represented on Wikipedia as the ones Goathead personally frequents in Chicago/Illinois? It appears so: There's a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Beer_brewing_companies_in_the_United_States_by_state, and I see that Michigan, Wisconsin, New York, Oregon (that's where Tedder (T-C-L-K-R-D) is from), Texas, and Pennsylvania are all far more well-represented than Illinois. (Maybe someone should check Goathead's contribs, though, since he might not be adding the appropriate categories to articles on his personal favorite microbreweries.)

Meanwhile, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Beer_brewing_companies_based_in_Iowa has only one microbrewery in its category, Millstream Brewing (T-H-L-K-D), located in the Amana Colonies (T-H-L-K-D). What a gyp! hrmph.gif

So, I guess I can't agree that this is something to be seriously concerned about, but to call it something other than "advertising" actually is a bit disingenuous, IMO.


The reason Why I was trying to get the Goathead's fav microbrewery deleted from wikipedia is this: One, I suspected that Goathead got paid to place the Ad (article) on wikipedia. I wanted to be removed, because, TB(Two brothers brewery) is not the only one in the western suburbs and I felt that It was unfair advantage to the other Micro breweries around.

Two, With Goathead in the wik ban box, I thought by missing with the article, with a sock that Goathead easy connect to me, would drive him nuts and to use his socks on the article and it would allow me to try to ID those who were his sock accounts or meat puppet accounts (goathead buddies) With this I had ID'd Tim Song (T-C-L-K-R-D) , Milowent (T-C-L-K-R-D) and Tedder (T-C-L-K-R-D) as friends or Socks of Goathead.

Three, The way Mr Tim Tim Song wiped clean and redacted a legitimate wp deletion process based on published WP Policy, not based on rule of law of governance, it was done, based on the Tingly dick (sorry duck) of Mr TIM (I'M a NUT) Song. This shows again there is no governance on Wikipedia, in fact is just unilateral actions by god like admin, with out control, moderation or answerable to an earthly authority.

I have been watching Goathead, as he was turned loss on wikipedia again from his 1 week ban and he's at it again on his fav new age dribble. Since the others, who Goathead is now locked in battle, it will not be long he gets in a edit war and causes himself to be banned for a much longer time. I watch now with delight.


Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Tarc @ Thu 1st April 2010, 7:06pm) *

QUOTE(Somey @ Thu 1st April 2010, 2:51pm) *

QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Thu 1st April 2010, 1:24pm) *
Quoted for truth.

Well, I have asked Mr. Tarc to stop baiting Mr. Victim, and he doesn't seem to want to stop...


Oh, stop being such a nancy-boy. So, some users are making wiki-articles to advertise non-notable breweries. In the grand scheme of all that is wrong with the Wikipedia, from ideological battlegrounds to unsourced BLP nightmares to dubious gay porn bios, THIS is what you want to rally the troops around?

"JoeHazleton" is this;

Image

and this;

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type of "conservative". Don't pretend that a rational, lucid conversation can ever be had with this.


Typical TARC bullshit....here, shown below is the real deal, a local goathead follower, a lose screw dipshit dork, right here... near two botheres..

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http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2010-04-01/news/ct-met-0402-naperville-homeless-lawsuit-20100401_1_scott-huber-squatter-trespassing
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/napervillesun/news/2136330,Huber-slapped-with-defamation_NA040110.article

More pictures of you typical home less... note laptop and generator.. all the comforts
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Posted by: EricBarbour

Heh, what fun.

I generally agree with Victim, though I do think he carries his rage a bit far.

Now Tarc, on the other hand......
if this were my forum, I'd confine him to the Annex.
Wherein he can mock those socks. hrmph.gif

Posted by: Zoloft

What does everyone here have against full, flowing, white beards?
Did you catch Mommy kissing Santa Claus?

Posted by: Sarcasticidealist

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 5th April 2010, 6:04am) *
More pictures of you typical home less... note laptop and generator.. all the comforts
Man, I wish I were homeless, don't you?

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Sarcasticidealist @ Mon 5th April 2010, 9:43am) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 5th April 2010, 6:04am) *
More pictures of you typical home less... note laptop and generator.. all the comforts
Man, I wish I were homeless, don't you?


May be he's one of goadhead (Gothenan's) buddies protecting Two brothers brewery. This guy is your typical wikipediot intelligentsia.

Posted by: CharlotteWebb

QUOTE(Sarcasticidealist @ Mon 5th April 2010, 9:43am) *

Man, I wish I were homeless, don't you?

Better than car-less if it's a choice you have to (and get to) make for yourself.

Or like I observed once when I was 20-something: you can sleep in a car but you can't drive a house.

Posted by: Tarc

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 5th April 2010, 6:36am) *

QUOTE(Sarcasticidealist @ Mon 5th April 2010, 9:43am) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 5th April 2010, 6:04am) *
More pictures of you typical home less... note laptop and generator.. all the comforts
Man, I wish I were homeless, don't you?


May be he's one of goadhead (Gothenan's) buddies protecting Two brothers brewery. This guy is your typical wikipediot intelligentsia.


QUOTE
Borchardt contends Huber angrily followed her into the building and up the staircase leading to her office, where he began shouting at her and pounding on her door while she hid on the floor behind a chair. Huber — who was arrested later on misdemeanor charges of trespassing and disorderly conduct — maintains he was inside a public building and merely trying to ascertain Borchardt's identity.


Kinda fits your stalking of Gothean to a T, actually.

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Tarc @ Mon 5th April 2010, 2:23pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 5th April 2010, 6:36am) *

QUOTE(Sarcasticidealist @ Mon 5th April 2010, 9:43am) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 5th April 2010, 6:04am) *
More pictures of you typical home less... note laptop and generator.. all the comforts
Man, I wish I were homeless, don't you?


May be he's one of goadhead (Gothenan's) buddies protecting Two brothers brewery. This guy is your typical wikipediot intelligentsia.


QUOTE
Borchardt contends Huber angrily followed her into the building and up the staircase leading to her office, where he began shouting at her and pounding on her door while she hid on the floor behind a chair. Huber — who was arrested later on misdemeanor charges of trespassing and disorderly conduct — maintains he was inside a public building and merely trying to ascertain Borchardt's identity.


Kinda fits your stalking of Gothean to a T, actually.


Kinda like your trying to cause trouble... maybe I post all I know about you, and your friend goathead

Posted by: Tarc

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 5th April 2010, 6:27pm) *

maybe I post all I know about you, and your friend goathead


Like your hero dubya once said, "bring it on". smile.gif

(btw, we're probably more than ready for a Tarpit thread relocation)

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Tarc @ Tue 6th April 2010, 2:38pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 5th April 2010, 6:27pm) *

maybe I post all I know about you, and your friend goathead


Like your hero dubya once said, "bring it on". smile.gif

(btw, we're probably more than ready for a Tarpit thread relocation)


I think you should be limited to "the Annex" so you can engage the point less sock fights and
weave little wiki webs.

Posted by: Tarc

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Tue 6th April 2010, 5:40pm) *

QUOTE(Tarc @ Tue 6th April 2010, 2:38pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 5th April 2010, 6:27pm) *

maybe I post all I know about you, and your friend goathead


Like your hero dubya once said, "bring it on". smile.gif

(btw, we're probably more than ready for a Tarpit thread relocation)


I think you should be limited to "the Annex" so you can engage the point less sock fights and
weave little wiki webs.


Yes, Eric made that retarded "point" a page back, too. But seeing how I actually discuss a range of topics here, as compared to your raison d'être of workin the phrase "Jmbo juice" into every conversation while fixating on gothean is quite amusing, Joe.

Posted by: victim of censorship

QUOTE(Tarc @ Wed 7th April 2010, 7:10pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Tue 6th April 2010, 5:40pm) *

QUOTE(Tarc @ Tue 6th April 2010, 2:38pm) *

QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Mon 5th April 2010, 6:27pm) *

maybe I post all I know about you, and your friend goathead


Like your hero dubya once said, "bring it on". smile.gif

(btw, we're probably more than ready for a Tarpit thread relocation)


I think you should be limited to "the Annex" so you can engage the point less sock fights and
weave little wiki webs.


Yes, Eric made that retarded "point" a page back, too. But seeing how I actually discuss a range of topics here, as compared to your raison d'être of workin the phrase "Jmbo juice" into every conversation while fixating on gothean is quite amusing, Joe.


You seem to have a real good VOC "JONES" going there bub.

By the way, Goethean is a dangerous and fixated religious nut job, willing to stalk and has a philosophy of "ends justify the means". Frankly I'm scared of him since he lives in my back yard. I have taking the appropriate steps to keep "Goathead" at arms length.