And here on my talk page this afternoon I find this:
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Thanks for your message. I support your efforts, but won't spend any more time on Ayn Rand myself. I think it's a waste of time, and highlights perfectly the main flaw of Wikipedia - that unlike with proper encyclopedias, experts and idiots have equal say, and fanatics (no matter how amateur or idiotic) can always get their way if they stay up late enough and make enough edits and reversions. (Not that I am an expert in this particular case.) Larry Sanger's phrase that Wikipedia is 'committed to amateurism' sums it up perfectly. Ben Finn (talk) 14:05, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Why do people like Lar come back to the subject of civility, as though that were the problem of recruiting good editors?
Doesn't this make it perfectly clear that incivility is not the problem? Lar? Answers please?