Jimbo puts arbcom in his will, they get the mojo Options

[Ottava]

I don't understand this at all. Surely whatever duties Jimbo has should be transferred to the WMF board. We've already seen instances where decisions made on English-language WP have been rejected by other projects (Commons rejecting the banning of Tyciol, for example, but I'm sure there are many other better examples). ArbCom doesn't have any standing except on English WP, right?

The second thing I don't understand is what Jimbo actually does outside of his role as a potent leader to inspire the masses. Why does he still have any duties at this point? He appoints ArbCom based on the results of an election. What else?

Cough.

I'm not completely incapable of getting things fixed when needed.


And was it worth giving the en-ArbCom an excuse to keep me banned just so that I could ensure that Tyciol was kept off Commons? Yes, yes it was.

I didn't realize that it was you that got Tyciol banned.

Only took getting into a nasty fight wih a Board Member's husband who was using her cloak to ban people in IRC who dare point out that Tyciol was not someone Commons should have around and getting indeffed on Commons. Eventually, the backlash and the embarrassment of his actions led to him reversing it all and ensuring Tyciol stayed blocked. But the indef was used to say I wouldn't be able to behave myself on Wikipedia.

I still think it was the morally proper choice though not the most politically expedient.

[SB_Johnny]

I've been wondering about that myself... I thought that "technically speaking" he is simply appointed by the WMF board to oversee Arbcom, so why he would have that in his will doesn't make sense.

Jimbo's authority over the English Wikipedia, in his opinion, is not mediated by or subject to the jurisdiction of the Board, since it predates the existence of the Wikimedia Foundation. The Board does not consider Jimmy to be exercising delegated authority when he acts as governor of the English Wikipedia.

The only thing resembling a board statement on it that I'm aware of is this one, which at least implies that he has the nod (Jimbo had said elsewhere in that discussion that he "had the WMF's backing", and Sue's post was presumably in response to that).

In any other situation, giving up ownership of one's shares means giving up control (like giving a kid up for adoption means losing your authority over the child).

[TungstenCarbide]

Only took getting into a nasty fight wih a Board Member's husband who was using her cloak to ban people in IRC who dare point out that Tyciol was not someone Commons should have around and getting indeffed on Commons. ...

That husband is manipulative troublemaker himself. He's one of the certified koolaid drinkers who's knee-jerk reaction to porn is to grant it extra protection under the banner of anti-censorship, regardless of its academic value. And he also likes to make fun of Christians and has vandalized Christian userboxes in the past.

This post has been edited by TungstenCarbide: Sun 19th December 2010, 8:55pm

[Gruntled]

We've already seen instances where decisions made on English-language WP have been rejected by other projects (Commons rejecting the banning of Tyciol, for example, but I'm sure there are many other better examples).

Surely Commons rejecting the banning of Ottava is a better example.

[Ottava]

We've already seen instances where decisions made on English-language WP have been rejected by other projects (Commons rejecting the banning of Tyciol, for example, but I'm sure there are many other better examples).

Surely Commons rejecting the banning of Ottava is a better example.

And they hate me more over there!!!

[GlassBeadGame]

We've already seen instances where decisions made on English-language WP have been rejected by other projects (Commons rejecting the banning of Tyciol, for example, but I'm sure there are many other better examples).

Surely Commons rejecting the banning of Ottava is a better example.

And they hate me more over there!!!

I thought this thread was about the other narcissistic asshole.

[SB_Johnny]

I thought this thread was about the other narcissistic asshole.

The other one doesn't want to get an account here, for some reason.

[Cedric]

I thought this thread was about the other narcissistic asshole.

The other one doesn't want to get an account here, for some reason.

Because the other co-founders already have accounts here, for one.

[EricBarbour]

When Jimbo does leave (or die), the bloody infighting that will result is going to be quite amusing to watch.

Eh? Wikipedia has always, right from its inception, been saturated with bloody infighting.

Anyone remember Larry Sanger Vs. Cunctator, back in 2001?
Or Ed Poor endlessly arguing with others about the creationism article, starting in October 2001.