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Palestinians to face 'Wikipedia War'
Ma'an News Agency
BETHLEHEM (Ma'an) -- The next regional war will be a media war, head of the Palestinian Journalists Syndicate Abdul Nasser An-Najar said Thursday. ...

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[Malik Shabazz]

[Head of the Palestinian Journalists Syndicate Abdul Nasser] An-Najar said PJS plans to set up counter editing groups, and asked the Palestinian Authority to support the effort.

Great. Just what we need, another group of trained edit warriors.

[Somey]

Great. Just what we need, another group of trained edit warriors.

If they're not careful, they could end up in one of those "infinite recursion" situations - as soon as they finish the course in how to be in a trained editing squad, they'll have to take another course in how to recognize and deal with opposition editing squads, and when they get through with that they'll have to take a course in trying to avoid detection as an editing-squad member by opposition editing squads trained to recognize and deal with them, ad infinitum.

[nableezy]

[Head of the Palestinian Journalists Syndicate Abdul Nasser] An-Najar said PJS plans to set up counter editing groups, and asked the Palestinian Authority to support the effort.

Great. Just what we need, another group of trained edit warriors.

Except I doubt the PNA has the competence to offer any training in any field besides cronyism and corruption for dummies.

[GlassBeadGame]

[Head of the Palestinian Journalists Syndicate Abdul Nasser] An-Najar said PJS plans to set up counter editing groups, and asked the Palestinian Authority to support the effort.

Great. Just what we need, another group of trained edit warriors.

What's the PA suppose to do, construct new tunnels for the all the Hot Pockets that will be needed? Besides the IDF will be able to locate the editing safe-houses by their microwave (oven) signatures.

This shows the fail of "anybody can edit." What is needed is the guidance of non-controversial experts, just like any real encyclopedia would use. First WMF would need to take editorial responsibility for the content.

[Somey]

Except I doubt the PNA has the competence to offer any training in any field besides cronyism and corruption for dummies.

Maybe WR should offer training courses like this? We're probably more qualified than either of those organizations, right? Most of these people probably don't even know who Jayjg is!

This could even be a practical use for Wikiversity - now there's a notion I never thought I'd entertain.

(Btw, for those of you not keeping score, Mssrs. Shabazz and Nableezy don't appear to be the best of friends, at least on Wikipedia. Hopefully they'll restrain themselves a bit better here...? )

[TungstenCarbide]

Great. Just what we need, another group of trained edit warriors.

If they're not careful, they could end up in one of those "infinite recursion" situations - as soon as they finish the course in how to be in a trained editing squad, they'll have to take another course in how to recognize and deal with opposition editing squads, and when they get through with that they'll have to take a course in trying to avoid detection as an editing-squad member by opposition editing squads trained to recognize and deal with them, ad infinitum.

thinking as a blood sport - the pinnacle of human evolution.

[SB_Johnny]

Great. Just what we need, another group of trained edit warriors.

If they're not careful, they could end up in one of those "infinite recursion" situations - as soon as they finish the course in how to be in a trained editing squad, they'll have to take another course in how to recognize and deal with opposition editing squads, and when they get through with that they'll have to take a course in trying to avoid detection as an editing-squad member by opposition editing squads trained to recognize and deal with them, ad infinitum.

On the bright side, maybe Iran will get in on it as well and champion universal broadband in south Lebanon and Gaza. Are Uzbekis allowed to go to those Russian hacking schools in Siberia? Fun, fun, fun!

[Anonymous editor]

lol at the idea of the PA supporting the effort of training POV pushers.

[nableezy]

(Btw, for those of you not keeping score, Mssrs. Shabazz and Nableezy don't appear to be the best of friends, at least on Wikipedia. Hopefully they'll restrain themselves a bit better here...? )

Naw, I like Malik. Sickest man he is.

[Malik Shabazz]

Btw, for those of you not keeping score, Mssrs. Shabazz and Nableezy don't appear to be the best of friends, at least on Wikipedia. Hopefully they'll restrain themselves a bit better here...?

What makes you say that? Nableezy and I get along very well.

[Somey]

What makes you say that? Nableezy and I get along very well.

Oops, you're right - my mistake, sorry! I was looking at your recent log of blocks and noticed a couple of pages where Nableezy was mentioned, and I just misread it as Nableezy being accused of "outing" someone - it looked like you were one of the accusers, but I totally missed this diff.

Hopefully y'all can forgive me - it's easy to get confused over there sometimes!

[CharlotteWebb]

Great. Just what we need, another group of trained edit warriors.

If they're not careful, they could end up in one of those "infinite recursion" situations - as soon as they finish the course in how to be in a trained editing squad, they'll have to take another course in how to recognize and deal with opposition editing squads, and when they get through with that they'll have to take a course in trying to avoid detection as an editing-squad member by opposition editing squads trained to recognize and deal with them, ad infinitum.

See also radar detector detector detector.

This shows the fail of "anybody can edit." What is needed is the guidance of non-controversial experts, just like any real encyclopedia would use. First WMF would need to take editorial responsibility for the content.

I'm sure someone will argue the WMF would forfeit section 230 immunity by hand-picking said experts. That could be facetious, but I wouldn't make an even-money bet either way.

[Kwork]

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BETHLEHEM (Ma'an) -- The next regional war will be a media war, head of the Palestinian Journalists Syndicate Abdul Nasser An-Najar said Thursday. ...

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I argued on occasion, before my wiki-exile, that a different way of dealing with I/P conflict articles is needed. If you have a situation in which two sides are interested in nothing but proving their side is right (and that is the present situation) then it is quite an act to keep up the pretense that a balanced article is the goal. Instead it is really competing teams (an 'I' team and a 'P' team) applying the thinking of Vince Lombardi, "Winning isn't everything; it's the only thing", to WP editing. That is the present situation, and the way things have been a long time. With news such as this, there is the possibility that even more and better trained wiki-warriors will be involved. Feh.

But, looking at the bright side, it does indicate that there will be one area where WP's editor loss problem will be reversed, and where enthusiastic new editors rushing in.

[Eppur si muove]

So what's the spread betting on the number of new I/P editors to be placed under editing restrictions before the end of the year? And how many will really be old friends returning?

[Kwork]

[Head of the Palestinian Journalists Syndicate Abdul Nasser] An-Najar said PJS plans to set up counter editing groups, and asked the Palestinian Authority to support the effort.

Great. Just what we need, another group of trained edit warriors.

Welcome to Wikipedia Review Malik. Congratulations on your recent promotion to administrator, and dick enlargement.

[Kwork]

Except I doubt the PNA has the competence to offer any training in any field besides cronyism and corruption for dummies.

Maybe WR should offer training courses like this? We're probably more qualified than either of those organizations, right? Most of these people probably don't even know who Jayjg is!

This could even be a practical use for Wikiversity - now there's a notion I never thought I'd entertain.

(Btw, for those of you not keeping score, Mssrs. Shabazz and Nableezy don't appear to be the best of friends, at least on Wikipedia. Hopefully they'll restrain themselves a bit better here...? )

My experience with Palestinians is that they are intelligent, well educated, and hard working. I have a lot of respect for them, and what they have accomplished despite many difficulties. I am sure that can give an excellent training in WP editing.

[nableezy]

Except I doubt the PNA has the competence to offer any training in any field besides cronyism and corruption for dummies.

Maybe WR should offer training courses like this? We're probably more qualified than either of those organizations, right? Most of these people probably don't even know who Jayjg is!

This could even be a practical use for Wikiversity - now there's a notion I never thought I'd entertain.

(Btw, for those of you not keeping score, Mssrs. Shabazz and Nableezy don't appear to be the best of friends, at least on Wikipedia. Hopefully they'll restrain themselves a bit better here...? )

My experience with Palestinians is that they are intelligent, well educated, and hard working. I have a lot of respect for them, and what they have accomplished despite many difficulties. I am sure that can give an excellent training in WP editing.

Palestinians, sure. Palestinian "leaders", especially those in the PNA, not so much.

[Kwork]

Except I doubt the PNA has the competence to offer any training in any field besides cronyism and corruption for dummies.

Maybe WR should offer training courses like this? We're probably more qualified than either of those organizations, right? Most of these people probably don't even know who Jayjg is!

This could even be a practical use for Wikiversity - now there's a notion I never thought I'd entertain.

(Btw, for those of you not keeping score, Mssrs. Shabazz and Nableezy don't appear to be the best of friends, at least on Wikipedia. Hopefully they'll restrain themselves a bit better here...? )

My experience with Palestinians is that they are intelligent, well educated, and hard working. I have a lot of respect for them, and what they have accomplished despite many difficulties. I am sure that can give an excellent training in WP editing.

Palestinians, sure. Palestinian "leaders", especially those in the PNA, not so much.

The Palestinian government in Gaza put together a very credible fighting force. There are schools, and although I do not know for sure how good the are, I do know that Palestinians get very good educations at university level around the world. There are hospitals, with good doctors, and other infrastructure. Certainly with better government things could be better, but that can be said of any country.

There are poets, artists, musicians, all with a great tradition behind them. You can not say there is just potential, there are accomplishments.

[SB_Johnny]

So what's the spread betting on the number of new I/P editors to be placed under editing restrictions before the end of the year? And how many will really be old friends returning?

Tough call, since it seems Jimbo thinks it's not a problem.

When he jumps in, it's kinda like throwing a rodeo clown on a dirt bike onto the Kentucky Derby track.