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Here are a few accusations about Wikipedia Review that SlimVirgin makes in her essay on the Poetlister affair:
  • The four of them ... proceeded to trash me with any allegation they could think of, including that I was a neo-Nazi pretending to be a Jew
  • They were going to report me to an Israeli Embassy in Australia (where Blissy lived)
  • They held a poll to decide whether the Mossad would kill me or jail me
  • They posted that I had faked my own death, and that I was a teenage girl who had murdered her mother. Selina kept posting photographs of obese women, claiming they were me
  • They discussed whether I feared being raped, what underwear I wore, whether I wanted to have sex with teenagers, and whether I had to sleep with men to get jobs.
  • I was openly referred to as a whore and a cunt.
  • An Iraq war veteran in Canada ... warned that I had better find a place to hide, because he was coming to look for me, and was looking forward to punching me in the face.
Slim doesn't provide any links. Here is my question: are any of these accusations even remotely true? I've been on WR for well over 2 years, and I can't recall a single one of these things happening (except maybe for some people addressing Slim with derogatory and sexist epithets). For those who've been on the site longer, does any of this ring true?

What this appears to be is Slim attempting yet again to tar WR with outrageous but unprovable accusations, most sourced in ancient history and unrelated to the WR of today.
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I sort of got the impression that Slimmy was indulging in a bit of wishful thinking about the nature and extent of the changes that would occur around here in the wake of PoetGuy's Big Exit™. Specifically, she'd gotten it into her head that PoetGuy was guilty of several of the more vitriolic and/or ludicrous accusations against her, most of which were actually made by others (most of whom have already been banned from WR, though admittedly not for that specific reason.)

The fact is, PoetGuy actually tended to elevate the general level of civility and decorum around here, and most of his posts about Slimmy were completely non-speculative, hardly full of insane accusations and conspiracy theories. I don't really blame Slimmy for not accepting that, since the fact that he (apparently) came up with one of the more important clues that led to Slimmy's identity would certainly have been unforgivable from her perspective. And obviously, he never let up on the "she got RachelBrown blocked!" theme either, but I suppose that was to be expected, at least in retrospect.

Slimmy's problem with respect to Wikipedia Review has always been tied up with her Wikipedia problem in general. There was a time when, it seemed, she felt that if you banned someone from an interactive website, whether by hook or by crook, the person is supposed to just vanish, disappear, never to be heard from again. And if they don't disappear (i.e., they appear elsewhere, and are angry about what happened), it's somehow just not fair, as if the banning didn't work, so you have to keep banning everyone whom you think might conceivably be that person until it does work. I suspect she's improved considerably during the last two years, but there was clearly a time when, in her mind, the ban-button represented some sort of "kill," as in "that's it, no more you!"

Having said that, I myself am not averse to removing some of the more egregious material about Slimmy - most of it is just the lunatic ravings of Blissyu2, and a few other people who are no longer with us (and who might also be desperately and irretrievably confused about who the owner of this website is). About 90 percent of that material is out of public view, but I can sort of understand why that's not good enough for her.
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QUOTE(Somey @ Thu 2nd October 2008, 2:39am) *

I sort of got the impression that Slimmy was indulging in a bit of wishful thinking about the nature and extent of the changes that would occur around here in the wake of PoetGuy's Big Exit™. Specifically, she'd gotten it into her head that PoetGuy was guilty of several of the more vitriolic and/or ludicrous accusations against her, most of which were actually made by others (most of whom have already been banned from WR, though admittedly not for that specific reason.)

The fact is, PoetGuy actually tended to elevate the general level of civility and decorum around here, and most of his posts about Slimmy were completely non-speculative, hardly full of insane accusations and conspiracy theories. I don't really blame Slimmy for not accepting that, since the fact that he (apparently) came up with one of the more important clues that led to Slimmy's identity would certainly have been unforgivable from her perspective. And obviously, he never let up on the "she got RachelBrown blocked!" theme either, but I suppose that was to be expected, at least in retrospect.

Slimmy's problem with respect to Wikipedia Review has always been tied up with her Wikipedia problem in general. There was a time when, it seemed, she felt that if you banned someone from an interactive website, whether by hook or by crook, the person is supposed to just vanish, disappear, never to be heard from again. And if they don't disappear (i.e., they appear elsewhere, and are angry about what happened), it's somehow just not fair, as if the banning didn't work, so you have to keep banning everyone whom you think might conceivably be that person until it does work. I suspect she's improved considerably during the last two years, but there was clearly a time when, in her mind, the ban-button represented some sort of "kill," as in "that's it, no more you!"

Having said that, I myself am not averse to removing some of the more egregious material about Slimmy - most of it is just the lunatic ravings of Blissyu2, and a few other people who are no longer with us (and who might also be desperately and irretrievably confused about who the owner of this website is). About 90 percent of that material is out of public view, but I can sort of understand why that's not good enough for her.


Ehh, fuck it. like i've said elsewhere, she brought it on herself, and obviously digs the attention. the gigabytes of text spent discussing SV is a testament to her power, even in her current weakened state. she enjoys this.

the hilarity of it to me is the extent to which the community supported her from the beginning, when it should have been obvious that she was up to no good in writing an article on Brandt, for one thing, to begin with. They completely followed her line in making Brandt out to be the evil guy, and later the Bagley incidents took the same course. the community believed her, believed they were defending WP from some malignant trolls who were only trying to protect themselves or their interests from malignant influences on WP. never have i seen an on-line community so effectively manipulated, or united, in mass numbers behind one person's idiosyncratic agenda before.

she is far less interesting now that she is less effective, but she is still the subject of conversation.
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QUOTE(Mr. Mystery @ Thu 2nd October 2008, 4:48am) *

...and later the Bagley incidents took the same course. the community believed her, believed they were defending WP from some malignant trolls who were only trying to protect themselves or their interests from malignant influences on WP.

In retrospect, that looks like it was largely Gary Weiss's doing. He hooked himself onto the bandwagon, onto the "harassment meme" and exploited it - and by extension, SlimVirgin - for his own ends.
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QUOTE(Kato @ Thu 2nd October 2008, 4:08am) *

QUOTE(Mr. Mystery @ Thu 2nd October 2008, 4:48am) *

...and later the Bagley incidents took the same course. the community believed her, believed they were defending WP from some malignant trolls who were only trying to protect themselves or their interests from malignant influences on WP.

In retrospect, that looks like it was largely Gary Weiss's doing. He hooked himself onto the bandwagon, onto the "harassment meme" and exploited it - and by extension, SlimVirgin - for his own ends.


weiss didn't know slim had a history with byrne prior to the time she hopped into it. she dove into that shitestorm headfirst with glee. oh mr wordbomb, may i please see your socking evidence against mantan? i'll take an objective admin look at it and surely wouldn't pass it on directly to mr weiss without your knowledge. I wouldn't have anything personal against byrne at all! I was just passing by.

she played gary. i wouldn't doubt they identified each other to each other and shared journalism empathies and letsfuckbyrne yukyuks. they had a lot in common professionally and personally. hacks posing as journalists who had a grudge with the same guy.

too bad those schneider emails probably just detail mostly his stock forum and common hedge fund buddies NSS propaganda exploits (that is what schneider, his email correspondent was involved with him in) against byrne and apparently few wikipedia ones.
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