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Another retirement, this one over the amount of trivia here.
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QUOTE(Alex @ Fri 22nd May 2009, 6:41am) Of all the things to retire over, this one is surely the silliest in my opinion. There's so much worse with Wikipedia than so-called "trivia". I suggest TravisTX gets over it.
Participation in Wikipedia = fun, useful, honorable, patriotic. Retirement from Wikipedia = silly, unfortunate, dishonorable, disloyal. Thank you, Alex. I think we've all got it now.
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 22nd May 2009, 2:42pm) QUOTE(Alex @ Fri 22nd May 2009, 6:41am) Of all the things to retire over, this one is surely the silliest in my opinion. There's so much worse with Wikipedia than so-called "trivia". I suggest TravisTX gets over it.
Participation in Wikipedia = fun, useful, honorable, patriotic. Retirement from Wikipedia = silly, unfortunate, dishonorable, disloyal. Thank you, Alex. I think we've all got it now. I actually agree with Alex on this one; I think you're misreading him. The way I see it what he's trying to say is: Retirement from Wikipedia due to a culture of abuse and the unwillingness to recognize the real-life consequences of actions = reasonable Retirement from Wikipedia because it has too many articles on Star Trek and too many gay editors = not reasonable
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QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Fri 22nd May 2009, 2:58pm) QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 22nd May 2009, 2:42pm) QUOTE(Alex @ Fri 22nd May 2009, 6:41am) Of all the things to retire over, this one is surely the silliest in my opinion. There's so much worse with Wikipedia than so-called "trivia". I suggest TravisTX gets over it.
Participation in Wikipedia = fun, useful, honorable, patriotic. Retirement from Wikipedia = silly, unfortunate, dishonorable, disloyal. Thank you, Alex. I think we've all got it now. I actually agree with Alex on this one; I think you're misreading him. The way I see it what he's trying to say is: Retirement from Wikipedia due to a culture of abuse and the unwillingness to recognize the real-life consequences of actions = reasonable Retirement from Wikipedia because it has too many articles on Star Trek and too many gay editors = not reasonable Eva has it right.
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QUOTE(Alex @ Fri 22nd May 2009, 9:59am) QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Fri 22nd May 2009, 2:58pm) QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 22nd May 2009, 2:42pm) QUOTE(Alex @ Fri 22nd May 2009, 6:41am) Of all the things to retire over, this one is surely the silliest in my opinion. There's so much worse with Wikipedia than so-called "trivia". I suggest TravisTX gets over it.
Participation in Wikipedia = fun, useful, honorable, patriotic. Retirement from Wikipedia = silly, unfortunate, dishonorable, disloyal. Thank you, Alex. I think we've all got it now. I actually agree with Alex on this one; I think you're misreading him. The way I see it what he's trying to say is: Retirement from Wikipedia due to a culture of abuse and the unwillingness to recognize the real-life consequences of actions = reasonable Retirement from Wikipedia because it has too many articles on Star Trek and too many gay editors = not reasonable Eva has it right. I'm sorry, is "too many gay editors" what TravisTX said?
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 22nd May 2009, 10:25am) QUOTE(Alex @ Fri 22nd May 2009, 9:59am) QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Fri 22nd May 2009, 2:58pm) QUOTE(thekohser @ Fri 22nd May 2009, 2:42pm) QUOTE(Alex @ Fri 22nd May 2009, 6:41am) Of all the things to retire over, this one is surely the silliest in my opinion. There's so much worse with Wikipedia than so-called "trivia". I suggest TravisTX gets over it.
Participation in Wikipedia = fun, useful, honorable, patriotic. Retirement from Wikipedia = silly, unfortunate, dishonorable, disloyal. Thank you, Alex. I think we've all got it now. I actually agree with Alex on this one; I think you're misreading him. The way I see it what he's trying to say is: Retirement from Wikipedia due to a culture of abuse and the unwillingness to recognize the real-life consequences of actions = reasonable Retirement from Wikipedia because it has too many articles on Star Trek and too many gay editors = not reasonable Eva has it right. I'm sorry, is "too many gay editors" what TravisTX said? It seems that the point he was clumsily trying to get at is that the gay-to-hetero ratio is higher within the wikipedia community than it is nationwide, which results (in his opinion) in a bias in articles in that subject area. Same for liberals-to-conservatives, apparently. This post has been edited by Tarc:
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Fri 22nd May 2009, 10:02am) It seems that the point he was clumsily trying to get at is that the gay-to-hetero ratio is higher within the wikipedia community than it is nationwide, which results (in his opinion) in a bias in articles in that subject area. I wonder how one would go about proving such an assertion? I mean, I do believe that we can say this is somewhat true, based purely on anecdotal evidence and general impressions. But if it comes down to actual statistics, I doubt you could actually prove it conclusively. Even if you could, it's still a matter of opinion as to whether "they" are doing anything objectionable. Then again, when they start forming drag-queen ABBA tribute bands, it's kind of hard to "assume good faith." QUOTE Same for liberals-to-conservatives, apparently. Well... that's just because of the younger demographic, IMO. Personally I expect that to change over time, but then again, it obviously also depends on how you define "liberal" and "conservative." Personally, I've always been of the opinion that WP attracts the extremes and the crackpots, as well as those who specialize in opposing them - and in so doing, it alienates the moderates and rationalists, sort of like the two-party system in the USA. This particular case is probably just burnout. I'm sure he's a nice guy, if you meet him in person...
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QUOTE(Somey @ Sat 23rd May 2009, 1:46am) This particular case is probably just burnout. I'm sure he's a nice guy, if you meet him in person...
Yeah, everyone's a "nice guy"--especially if blissfully ignorant neighbors are to be believed--cannibals, rapists and craigslist killers, not that this fellow is one or more of any those things. SlimVirgin used to like to make the point that if you took 2 Wikipedians who despised one another online and teleported them to some pub, they would get along splendidly over a pint of suds. Yeah, well anyone can get along with a stranger for an hour or two; big fucking deal!!! It's only when you become a repeat or steady customer (marriage/roommate/cellmate) and that persons starts to get comfortable that you truly start to perceive the stench of another human being. And people on Wikipedia get real comfortable, real fast. And those that have been in WP for years are like inbred, unwashed mutants, with an odor so putrid that it fascinates. They make themselves at home, as it were. This post has been edited by Obesity:
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QUOTE(Obesity @ Sat 23rd May 2009, 6:19am) And people on Wikipedia get real comfortable, real fast. And those that have been in WP for years are like inbred, unwashed mutants, with an odor so putrid that it fascinates. They make themselves at home, as it were.
Hey can you give barnstars here? This sure as heck deserves one. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/biggrin.gif)
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"His blandness goes to 11!"
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QUOTE(sbrown @ Sat 23rd May 2009, 7:55am) QUOTE(Obesity @ Sat 23rd May 2009, 6:19am) And people on Wikipedia get real comfortable, real fast. And those that have been in WP for years are like inbred, unwashed mutants, with an odor so putrid that it fascinates. They make themselves at home, as it were.
Hey can you give barnstars here? This sure as heck deserves one. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/biggrin.gif) Like this I think ----------------- (IMG: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Original_Barnstar.png) blah blah blah ----------------- But don't start that here please. By the way, http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Original_Barnstar.png didn't work. maybe it should. edit: neither did the wp link. can some mod fix it? thx
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QUOTE(Somey @ Sat 23rd May 2009, 4:01pm) QUOTE(Lar @ Sat 23rd May 2009, 9:12am) Sorry - you have to link to the actual file, not the file's wiki-page (i.e., click on the image itself and then copy that URL instead)... There's no high-compatibility way to get the image's "raw" URL from the wiki-page without having the server download and pre-parse the HTML - I don't believe you could do it in JavaScript only (though I could be wrong about that). If you knew ActiveX was available, you could do it easily enough with the MSHTML/MSXML API's, but of course you can't always know that. Actually I have already explained how to do this using a new tag like "[wpimage]". Let me find the thread... QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Fri 20th March 2009, 5:54am) if you wanted to make a [wpimage] tag, a break-down of the url is something like this:
server + "/" + project + "/" + language + "/thumb/" + md5(filename)[0] + "/" + md5(filename)[0, 1] + "/" + filename + "/" + width + "px-" + filename
(SVGs change format so ".png" is added e.g. "/8/85/Smiley.svg/100px-Smiley.svg.png")
Obviously the filename would have to be normalized (strip extra spaces, change to underscores, capitalize first letter) before doing the md5 or it may fail.
The trick would be to guess which images are "local" on enwiki and which ones are on commons. these would use different directories as both could potentially exist with the same title. Maybe best to just use two different tags "wpimage" and "commonsimage"...
QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Sat 21st March 2009, 10:15am) Oh I'm just saying if you wanted to add a new tag that works like this:
[wpimage name="Foobar.jpg" size="240"]
and chooses the correct thumbnail image from the wp server, instead hunting it down manually like this:
[img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3a/Foobar.jpg/240px-Foobar.jpg[/img]
it would actually be fairly easy to do. The only potentially confusing part is figuring out how to correctly guess the hash digits before the filename in the url in order to correctly link to the actual image file.
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