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I'd have preferred this all to have been dealt with quietly, sparing any embarrassment, but that didn't happen. I can't remain silent so here we are.*
There may be a more a viscous section of Wikipedia than I-P area but I've no idea what it is. Veterans will acknowledge that it's a bloodthirsty zone filled with endless bickering over tiny details, constant sockpuppet harassment and general nastiness (it's also a great place to explore the finer points of sophistry). The specter of a pro-Israeli emailing list has been raised numerous times but no one could offer more than circumstantial evidence. Until now.

This may come as no surprise to our jaded audience but it's a great surprise to those fresh-faced young editors who bought the party line of "There is no cabal!", namely me. My hope was that Wikipedia's enforcement mavens would take over once they were made aware of the situation. That was a few months ago. I'd received these files from an anonymous email address after running afoul of the puppet masters (here, Jan/Feb-ish). While I can't verify how they were obtained (leak/hack/etc.) I can verify their authenticity. Real names and contact info not otherwise available have been blanked so you'll have to take my word for it (or someone else's as they don't seem to be a huge secret).

We (myself, two editors not involved in the topic area, a retired CU and two other folks) researched the group and sent our findings to Arbcom, to no avail.

The files in question, the only thing remotely interesting in this post.
The members, most of whom will come as no surprise to familiar editors (this is not exhaustive, it covers most of the editors in the emails released here but not all of them in the files nor, I suspect, all of them involved):
-Nocal100: aka Isarig, long term editor turned prolific puppetmaster
-breein1007
-Mbz1
-Shuki
-Stellarkid aka Djudem/Concheet from the 2008 CAMERA group, the other great puppetmaster
-Jiujitsuguy
-brewcrewer
-Broccoli
-a peripheral glimpse of Jayjg who, despite his reputation, acts quite honorably
So that's one CAMERA fellow, one of the original CAMERA members, and one who even made his own canvassing group (a fourth member is peripherally involved in another group that made headlines for a similar tactic). Hmmm.

HOW IS YOU KNOW THEY ARE REAL?!
The email addresses match according to various editors who've had contact with them. The on-wiki activity matches (compare this file with this edit and look at these sources provided by the banned puppet master inserted by an editor never before involved on the page, continuing the argument for the sockpuppet).
Oh, and Mbz1 admitted it.

YOU ARE BREAKING TEH LAW/INVADIN MAH PRIVACIES!
No dice, champ. I was neither the initial obtainer nor revealer. Talk to my lawyer.

Why bother bringing this up if no one will do anything to stop it?
Because people deserve to know what they face before investing their time. If you edit in a contentious place be aware that these groups exist and weigh the possibility of wasted, frustrating hours versus doing something else. The group itself isn't too surprising. The interesting bit is Wikipedia's complete failure to shut it down after notification of its existence or at least get rid of the most culpable offenders. If you want to, say, create an encyclopedia you'd do well to get rid of a toxic ring of ultra-nationalist sock puppeteers. So let this be a warning to you, oh newbie editors. The trail points to group operating in the same manner since about 2009 and it's all been reported before. Mbz1 and Broccoli cooperating on DYK? Brewcrewer working with NoCal socks? All were reported and dismissed. There's plenty of other hints at collusion which I'll leave you to dredge up yourself, it's all anti-Arab/Likudnik content, DYK pumping (best way to get visibility for pet causes) and sockpuppet harassment. There's more material but I've rambled long enough for an initial post.

TL/DR: Whiny new guy realizes there are cabals, is shocked by WP's failure to take even token preventive actions.

*In order to save time and focus on the topic, I hereby plead nolo contendere to anything remotely plausible I'm accused of doing (short of anything illegal) including whatever I was banned for, renounce my right to appeal, and accept our Lord Jimbo as my savior. This should be not be mistaken as the truth, just a time saving measure.

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Good post. Given the corruption at Wikipedia, Name and Shame is probably the best we can do.
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QUOTE(It's the blimp, Frank @ Thu 12th May 2011, 2:05pm) *

Good post.


I was thinking just the opposite. I am left with little more clue about what the author is trying to convey than if he had just shown me a "wordle" graphic of the words he had typed.
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Thu 12th May 2011, 4:06pm) *

QUOTE(It's the blimp, Frank @ Thu 12th May 2011, 2:05pm) *

Good post.


I was thinking just the opposite. I am left with little more clue about what the author is trying to convey than if he had just shown me a "wordle" graphic of the words he had typed.

It was more to just get it out there. People familiar with the topic area and the editors will understand it, people unfamiliar with it probably won't but I'll explain what I can to specific queries.

Basically, there's a group of hyper-aggressive Kahanist types in the Israel-Palestine editing area. Suspicions were raised: are they a canvassing group? Yes. A holdover from the first CAMERA group? Partially. They go for the generic POV-pushing group tactics of using sockpuppets to guard their editors, harass opposition, vote-stack, etc. What you're looking at is the group of unbanned editors communicating with the puppetmasters/canvassing. Some of it's trivial and some of it looks insta-ban worthy.

The group doesn't really matter, it's the lack of response when it came to light. It also raises the question of how the topic area got so bad that otherwise reasonable people (I assume) decided to start a group devoted to trolling a website. And kept at it for years.
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QUOTE(Sololol @ Thu 12th May 2011, 2:26pm) *

Basically, there's a group of hyper-aggressive Kahanist types in the Israel-Palestine editing area. Suspicions were raised: are they a canvassing group? Yes. A holdover from the first CAMERA group? Partially. They go for the generic POV-pushing group tactics of using sockpuppets to guard their editors, harass opposition, vote-stack, etc. What you're looking at is the group of unbanned editors communicating with the puppetmasters/canvassing. Some of it's trivial and some of it looks insta-ban worthy.

The group doesn't really matter, it's the lack of response when it came to light. It also raises the question of how the topic area got so bad that otherwise reasonable people (I assume) decided to start a group devoted to trolling a website. And kept at it for years.

I think yoiu know the answer to that. They played the antisemitism card so well that nobody could really do much about it. If you claimed a bunch of Jews plus sympathizers were controlling various areas of Wikipedia to push a Zionist POV, plus protect each other's leftist backs, you got labeled a skinhead. That was your price for noticing the obvious.

ED is gone, but a lot of the "Wikipedia Jews" article there was written in 2006, and supportive evidence over the years as it came in. Some bits are left. See if you recognize any of it.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1458947/pg1

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The Wikipedia Jews (TOW✡), led by Scheißjüdin‎, are an existential reality of Wikipedia. They don't like being called The Wikipedia Jews. They don't want to admit that they're Wikipedia Jews. Some of them aren't Jews. Yet they are Wikipedia Jews. As poster jackwelsh from The Wikipedia Review eloquently put it:

“What should their clique be called, if not the "Wikipedia Jews"?„

This is a cabal whose existence Wikipedia doesn't want to admit. Their own cabal page contains no mention of them[1]. The Wikipedia Jews are basically abusive people, the kind of people who feel like reverting all your edits in your face and then blocking you. In essence, they're bureaucratic fucks, fucking up the Web with Wikipedia garbage that gets copied by spam scrapers all around the Web with their Web fuckery, thanks to the idiotic Stallmanesque so-called "copyleft" license they use, a license with Jimbo Wales's "child in Africa" in mind, an imbecilic excuse to fuck up the Web and IRC all day long with spam, spam and even more spam.

Among the most famous Wikipedia Jews are Scheißjüdin‎, Jewjig, Isarig, L'Aquatique, Humus sapiens, Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg, Zeq and Mantanmoreland, who also has his own TOW article. SlimVirgin is a disgruntled PETA fan who is obsessed with Jews (even though she is a shiksa!) and the terrorist bombing of Pan Am Flight 103. Jayjg is the most famous Zionist on Wikipedia. Humus and Moshe are the henchmen to SlimVirgin and Jayjg's Joker- and Riddler-type evil genius. Whenever the leaders need help, the henchmen magically appear along with others. It is a complete and vicious lie that the actions of this posse are coordinated by email, irc or instant messaging.

There is, in fact, an unconscious mindlink bonding SlimVirgin, Jayjg and all their cohorts. When one feels pain, the others feel pain. When one feels "damn it, I wish I've already reverted that bastard three times", the others feel the pain and lend a reverting hand. Even with their contradictory views of Jewry, these users act in tandem to fuck up the Web and spread their view that Jews are the most important stuff on the planet, ignoring the fact that not everyone's a Wikipedia Jew. Mantanmoreland AKA Gary Weiss is a minor journalist who had a major meltdown when his article came up for deletion.


All of this is not really about Jewishness, of course. It has no connection to Jewishness per se, except as it exemplifies the propensity of one group to here advance its own agenda, by playing the "persecuted minority card" far longer than it has any realistic justification for. If it weren't for that, nobody would give a damn. Or perhaps only real skinheads would, if there really are any who can actually read (much less help write an encyclopedia).

And I think we all have some kind of feeling for how bad this can get. If there was some kind of Irish Catholic cabal on Wikipedia controlling all the articles on Northern Ireland, supporting each other's RfA's, and blocking identified Irish Protestants or anybody in the outgroup, just for the hell of it, I think we'd have problem with that. Or the reverse. In fact, we've actually seen some of this on the "Troubles" wars on WP, and nobody had much patience for it. But the Israel/Palastine thing makes it all look a hiccup by comparison.

It's time WP quit putting up with all this. The stuff with SlimVirgin, Mantanmoreland, Baxter/Poet, and many of the great WikiWars have all had a huge subtext of Jew vs. Not-a-Jew. And even Jew vs. Not-Politically-Correct-Jew. Personally, I'm pretty sick of it. If you can't leave your ethnicity at the door when editing politics articles, you should probably topic-ban yourself. And if some other editor's ethnicity makes a difference in whether you support their RfAs and blocks against other editors, you're just as racist as you accuse your enemies of being. Go away! I wish you'd go march in a political protest someplace, and stay away from Wikipedia.
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