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How can arbcom be so totally in outer space regarding the leaker. Their answer are pathetic

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_tal...ity_Speculation


Are they really as dumb and inadequate as they come across? Even the super techie ones? And these are the people deciding the fate of wikipedia and its editors?

Giano, my hero! Dear clear sighted one!
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Things like this just seem to happen to these poor blokes on a regular basis, eh?

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From: (Steve Dunlop)
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 14:59:20 -0600
Subject: [Arbcom-l] Arbcom wiki showing in google

New arbs are cautioned that the MW developers, despite their
considerable skills in other areas, are very poor at keeping
confidential information leak-free. This sort of thing has happened
before and is likely to happen again.

Steve/UC

From: (David Gerard)
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 21:04:31 +0000
Subject: [Arbcom-l] Arbcom wiki showing in google

2008/12/27 Steve Dunlop

> New arbs are cautioned that the MW developers, despite their
> considerable skills in other areas, are very poor at keeping
> confidential information leak-free. This sort of thing has happened
> before and is likely to happen again.


Yes. Basically, MediaWiki isn't the place to put anything you don't
want to tell the world, as that's its entire function.

There are ways to protect the entire wiki more than the usual private
wiki accessible via the Internet, but they aren't implemented on our
wiki farm (and they're a major PITA for all involved) - things like
.htaccess files as well.


- d.

From: (Steve Dunlop)
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 16:59:49 -0600
Subject: [Arbcom-l] Arbcom wiki showing in google

<<<Does using the secure server help, or is that only for the "sniffing
passwords" bit?

Carcharoth>>>

No. What usually happens is that the developers take site maintenance
actions that affect all the 100+ wikis hosted by WMF and either don't
think through the implications for sensitive wikis or screw up the
implementation.

We had one episode where they included a private wiki in the public backup tarball.

We had one episode where they made a private wiki visible on the tool server.

We had one MediaWiki patch that was buggy and caused information compromise, at
least potentially. I can't remember where it was, but it was some new feature
that worked great but forgot to check, on a private wiki, whether there was a
user logged in.

And now this.

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chrisoff   Arbcom follies  
No one of consequence   Giano, my hero! Dear clear sighted one! ...  
Sololol   Giano, my hero! Dear clear sighted one! ...  
Vigilant   [quote name='No one of consequence' post='281494'...  
Sololol   The easiest way to do this would be to send a phi...  
gomi   [quote name='Vigilant' post='281535' date='Fri 29t...  
Vigilant   The easiest way to do this would be to send a ph...  
Heat   [quote name='No one of consequence' post='281494...  
Vigilant   [quote name='Vigilant' post='281535' date='Fri 29...  
chrisoff   I don't buy it. There's at least one arb...  
InkBlot   I don't buy it. There's at least one ar...  
SpiderAndWeb   [quote name='chrisoff' post='281497' date='Thu 28...  
thekohser   How can arbcom be so totally in outer space regar...  
A Horse With No Name   Are they really as dumb and inadequate as they co...  
Casliber   [quote name='Vigilant' post='281535' date='Fri 29...  
Sololol   [quote name='gomi' post='281537' date='Fri 29th J...  
Casliber   [quote name='gomi' post='281537' date='Fri 29th ...  
powercorrupts   [quote name='Sololol' post='281550' date='Sat 30t...  
Sololol   Maybe if you tried a pegasus or manticore..... Y...  
Ottava   I'm of the believe that they are all the leake...  
SpiderAndWeb   I'm of the believe that they are all the leak...  
Ottava   [quote name='Ottava' post='281552' date='Fri 29th...  
SpiderAndWeb   [quote name='SpiderAndWeb' post='281554' date='Fr...  
thekohser   Wow, that should have read "I'm of the b...  
Vigilant   Wow, that should have read "I'm of the ...  
chrisoff   After all, have any of the leaks really had anyth...  
powercorrupts   I found Casliber's comment totally unconvincin...  
Encyclopedist   I found Casliber's comment totally unconvinci...  
powercorrupts   I found Casliber's comment totally unconvinc...  
Abd   What we are seeing is that arbcom are consistently...  
Vigilant   What we are seeing is that arbcom are consistentl...  
chrisoff   [quote name='Encyclopedist' post='281598' date='S...  
Milton Roe   Could've fooled the FAC people and the arbs t...  
NuclearWarfare   .  
Encyclopedist   You realize that Casliber edits under a derivativ...  
Milton Roe   So he may be a shrink; but it's professionall...  
Encyclopedist   So he may be a shrink; but it's professional...  
Vigilant   [quote name='Milton Roe' post='281660' date='Sat ...  
Encyclopedist   [quote name='Encyclopedist' post='281662' date='S...  
Milton Roe   Trite insults don't help. Not much helps righ...  
Encyclopedist   [quote name='Encyclopedist' post='281666' date='S...  
Milton Roe   Nevertheless, some people manage to ignore me- th...  
A Horse With No Name   And it's a gross insult to assume that I'm...  
Milton Roe   [quote name='Encyclopedist' post='281671' date='S...  
Vigilant   [quote name='Encyclopedist' post='281662' date='...  
Encyclopedist   [quote name='Encyclopedist' post='281666' date='S...  
Sxeptomaniac   Trite insults don't help. Not much helps righ...  
powercorrupts   You realize that Casliber edits under a derivativ...  
A Horse With No Name   . You're a man of few words. :ermm:  
EricBarbour   This is why people on the Crazypedia don't tak...  
Anna   Seconded, Encyclopedist.  
chrisoff   I found Casliber's comment totally unconvinci...  
Kelly Martin   And aren't there codes of ethics for psychiatr...  
Anna   Kelly -- If that is so, it would explain a lot. ...  
Milton Roe   One would think that giving a professional psycho...  
Anna   Milton -- Mostly New Mexico, but a few times in V...  
Anna   It isn't Encyclopedist's responsibility to...  
powercorrupts   It isn't Encyclopedist's responsibility t...  
EricBarbour   WR doesn't have the best of names as it is, w...  
SB_Johnny   He is a 'he' - perhaps you should read up...  
powercorrupts   [quote name='powercorrupts' post='281846' date='M...  
Anna   It's not about whether or not what he writes i...  
powercorrupts   It's not about whether or not what he writes ...  
chrisoff   Is Cas Liber another Essajay. He says he is a psyc...  
No one of consequence   No one asked Essajay to "prove" his cre...  
Anna   I don't really care if you call people fruitca...  
powercorrupts   I don't really care if you call people fruitc...  
Anna   powercorrupts -- If convincing me is so important...  
powercorrupts   powercorrupts -- If convincing me is so importan...  
Somey   If convincing me is so important to you, you might...  
chrisoff   [quote name='chrisoff' post='281849' date='Mon 1s...  
Vigilant   And isn't it frightening that arbcom is engag...  
Sxeptomaniac   And isn't it frightening that arbcom is engag...  
Anna   powercorrupts -- I did see Malice's post, but...  
Anna   SB Johnny -- :-D Somey -- Oh, you flatterer you...  
powercorrupts   SB Johnny -- :-D Don't follow Ronnie's ...  
SB_Johnny   SB Johnny -- :-D Don't follow Ronnie's...  
chrisoff   And isn't it frightening that arbcom is enga...  
No one of consequence   Post removed by author  
SB_Johnny   But three pages ago you turned the discussion to ...  
No one of consequence   [quote name='No one of consequence' post='281901'...  
powercorrupts   Post removed by author Balls - you deleted one ...  
Sxeptomaniac   [quote name='Sxeptomaniac' post='281891' date='Mo...  
Anna   powercorrupts -- Thanks for the link. Now I have ...  
powercorrupts   powercorrupts -- Thanks for the link. Now I have...  
Encyclopedist   powercorrupts -- Thanks for the link. Now I hav...  
powercorrupts   Let me make this quite clear: I have no criminal ...  
Encyclopedist   Let me make this quite clear: I have no criminal...  
RMHED   [quote name='powercorrupts' post='281924' date='T...  
Encyclopedist   [quote name='powercorrupts' post='281924' date='...  
RMHED   Now I know why you were kicked off Wikiipedia. ...  
powercorrupts   I think you mean "knob", meaning ...  
Encyclopedist   I think you mean "knob", meaning ...  
Encyclopedist   powercorrupts -- Thanks for the link. Now I have...  
Anna   Philip Nash is hardly an uncommon name. https://s...  
powercorrupts   Philip Nash is hardly an uncommon name. [url=htt...  
Encyclopedist   Philip Nash is hardly an uncommon name. [url=ht...  
powercorrupts   [quote name='powercorrupts' post='281940' date='T...  
Anna   powercorrupts -- It's not impossible. But I d...  
A Horse With No Name   The fact that I am, in fact, a woman could be eas...  
Gary_Niger   [quote name='Anna' post='281957' date='Mon 1st Au...  
Anna   Alternatively, if a concerned citizen doesn't ...  
powercorrupts   Anna - I just don't think terms like 'jump...  
Milton Roe   I know you are still new here, but WR really isn...  
radek   [quote name='powercorrupts' post='282062' date='T...  
Milton Roe   (But since those two went to their death with loy...  
radek   [quote name='radek' post='282072' date='Wed 3rd A...  
Milton Roe   [quote name='Milton Roe' post='282074' date='Wed ...  
radek   Ah, Sandstein. We must discuss Sandstein. This is...  
EricBarbour   Ah, Sandstein. We must discuss Sandstein. Must we...  
radek   Yeah, but what fun is it to state the obvious? I...  
powercorrupts   That's Larry Sanger (not Sanders) that RH...  
Anna   powercorrupts -- I don't object to you callin...  
Milton Roe   Criticizing him for stuff done by an account we k...  
Encyclopedist   In my completely non-professional opinion -- that...  
Vigilant   In my completely non-professional opinion -- tha...  
Encyclopedist   [quote name='Encyclopedist' post='282154' date='T...  
It's the blimp, Frank   Is this thread still about ArbCom follies?  
A Horse With No Name   Is this thread still about ArbCom follies? If A...  
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