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If I was the boss of a company, I wouldn't fire my best employee for pissing off everyone else, especially if he or she actually gets shit done. Let's face it: Malleus is worth more to Wikipedia than five admins.

Why not let Malleus have immunity because of his usefulness? Is calling someone a cunt (even if regularly done over several years) that bad, considering this is the Internet?

If someone leaves Wikipedia "because" of Malleus, it's their choice.


Fetchcomms is mistaking: Malleus is worth more to Wikipedia than at least a hundred admins, probably more, but does it mean Malleus and other valued editors should be treated differently than not so valued, but good faith editors?

I have no answer to this question, but I would like to hear what others think about this matter. Thanks.

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People who don't work on the encyclopedia have no business there. That should be rule number one and, if enforced, 80% of the people would be instantly banned and the rest would be sorted out.
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QUOTE(Ottava @ Mon 26th December 2011, 7:33pm) *

People who don't work on the encyclopedia have no business there. That should be rule number one and, if enforced, 80% of the people would be instantly banned and the rest would be sorted out.

Dumping all the administrators and removing the God-king's rights would be a start, but that's obviously not going to happen any time soon.

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QUOTE(Malleus @ Mon 26th December 2011, 1:47pm) *

Dumping all the administrators and removing the God-king's rights would be a start, but that's obviously not going to happen any time soon.


And then what?

"The police and government aren't doing enough to curb crime here in our town. Let's fire all of them."

Until Wikipedia gets a Batman, that's not a solution.
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QUOTE(jd turk @ Mon 26th December 2011, 9:29pm) *
"The police and government aren't doing enough to curb crime here in our town. Let's fire all of them."

Until Wikipedia gets a Batman, that's not a solution.
Except that Wikipedia's administrators are not particularly much involved in "stopping crime".
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QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Tue 27th December 2011, 4:11am) *

QUOTE(jd turk @ Mon 26th December 2011, 9:29pm) *
"The police and government aren't doing enough to curb crime here in our town. Let's fire all of them."

Until Wikipedia gets a Batman, that's not a solution.
Except that Wikipedia's administrators are not particularly much involved in "stopping crime".

I could have lived with administrators that are not particularly much involved in "stopping crime".
I cannot live with administrators who block valued contributors to satisfy the trolls and the hounds.
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QUOTE(mbz1 @ Mon 26th December 2011, 11:28pm) *

QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Tue 27th December 2011, 4:11am) *

QUOTE(jd turk @ Mon 26th December 2011, 9:29pm) *
"The police and government aren't doing enough to curb crime here in our town. Let's fire all of them."

Until Wikipedia gets a Batman, that's not a solution.
Except that Wikipedia's administrators are not particularly much involved in "stopping crime".

I could have lived with administrators that are not particularly much involved in "stopping crime".
I cannot live with administrators who block valued contributors to satisfy the trolls and the hounds.


What about when valued contributors are also trolls and hounds?
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What about when valued contributors are also trolls and hounds?


this.

secondly, who the hell is Malleus? And if he is such an awesome fuck, can his contributions be enumerated (mathematically) to show he is actually more valuable than a dozen or a "hundred" admins? Seems very hyperbolic.

Difficult to edit when users create a climate of hostility, and calling another user a cunt is pathetic. I imagine that person banging their head on the keyboard in a fit of rage.

wikipedia isn't going anywhere. if you can't deal with some internet asshole without using profanity against the rules then perhaps you should consider doing something else with your time.

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QUOTE(Wikifan @ Tue 27th December 2011, 12:42am) *

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What about when valued contributors are also trolls and hounds?


this.


You do realize that my statement was about Mila, right?
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Tue 27th December 2011, 3:29pm) *

QUOTE(Wikifan @ Tue 27th December 2011, 12:42am) *

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What about when valued contributors are also trolls and hounds?


this.


You do realize that my statement was about Mila, right?

Well,if your "statement" was about me, is a good example of your usual trolling with not a single fucking difference to confirm it,
and my response to it is a very good example of what I should not have done:responding to trolls = feeding the trolls.

Generally speaking I have never seen any valued contributor who was a troll and/or a hound.

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QUOTE(mbz1 @ Tue 27th December 2011, 10:49am) *

QUOTE(Tarc @ Tue 27th December 2011, 3:29pm) *

QUOTE(Wikifan @ Tue 27th December 2011, 12:42am) *

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What about when valued contributors are also trolls and hounds?


this.


You do realize that my statement was about Mila, right?

Well,if your "statement" was about me, is a good example of your usual trolling with not a single fucking difference to confirm it,


Do we really still need diffs to show your assholish behavior, Mila? I think you've reached a level of wiki-infamy where your antics are common knowledge by now.
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jd turk   Fetchcomms is mistaking: Malleus is worth more to...  
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