Request For Comment JzG2, Is Mr. Guy Chapman (aka, JzG) going away? Options

[guy]

it was a mistake to take Mantanmoreland up to Arbcom, as the community should have been able to ban him before that even happened, and the same with JzG.

I don't think there's any mechanism for desysopping an admin without going through ArbCom.

[UseOnceAndDestroy]

From my sofa in about the middle of the UK, I'd have to say that JzG's characterisation of the English as a nation of sweary neanderthals says a lot more about his lack of social awareness than it does about the general acceptability of swearing over here.

For what its worth, this "response" looks pretty coached to me. Its the set-up for letting him off the hook (with a sprinkling of "what a hero" on top). Shame if the efforts of those trying to solve a problem turned out to be futile...again.

This post has been edited by UseOnceAndDestroy: Thu 27th March 2008, 9:49pm

[Viridae]

it was a mistake to take Mantanmoreland up to Arbcom, as the community should have been able to ban him before that even happened, and the same with JzG.

I don't think there's any mechanism for desysopping an admin without going through ArbCom.

Not an official one, but after if a community discussion there was a strong consensus for desysopping it would happen.

[Milton Roe]

From my sofa in about the middle of the UK, I'd have to say that JzG's characterisation of the English as a nation of sweary neanderthals says a lot more about his lack of social awareness than it does about the general acceptability of swearing over here.

Perhaps he spends all his time in certain Manchester pubs?

[dogbiscuit]

Regardless, his characterisation of the English language is way off the mark. Unless the real world analogy of Wikipedia is Friday Night on a pub crawl through Watford, then that sort of language is only ever used between people who know each other.

If you went up to a stranger and told them to fuck off, the results are likely to be, erm, unpredictable. If you said it to a policeman, you could get yourself arrested pretty quickly.

He is stupid for asserting it, and I would suggest he would not be using it when practising his singing - "Oi, you cunt at the back, stop fucking singing flat." No, I don't think that has the ring of truth.

I could not use the c word in front of my wife or her friends without serious fallout (I tried it once...). The F word I reserve for deliberate displays of anger where someone has completely overstepped the bounds of decency, and I would normally expect to apologise afterwards for doing it.

However, I can switch into a work environment where the language is entirely in context. It would never be appropriate in a public context. For example, it can get you thrown off a flight.

[ColScott]

Regardless, his characterisation of the English language is way off the mark. Unless the real world analogy of Wikipedia is Friday Night on a pub crawl through Watford, then that sort of language is only ever used between people who know each other.

If you went up to a stranger and told them to fuck off, the results are likely to be, erm, unpredictable. If you said it to a policeman, you could get yourself arrested pretty quickly.

He is stupid for asserting it, and I would suggest he would not be using it when practising his singing - "Oi, you cunt at the back, stop fucking singing flat." No, I don't think that has the ring of truth.

I could not use the c word in front of my wife or her friends without serious fallout (I tried it once...). The F word I reserve for deliberate displays of anger where someone has completely overstepped the bounds of decency, and I would normally expect to apologise afterwards for doing it.

However, I can switch into a work environment where the language is entirely in context. It would never be appropriate in a public context. For example, it can get you thrown off a flight.

I see he complains that I called him and got his wife last year.

Maybe I should give her another bell and ask about his health.

http://www.donmurphy.net/board/showthread....911#post1143911

[Kato]

I see he complains that I called him and got his wife last year.

Maybe I should give her another bell and ask about his health.

http://www.donmurphy.net/board/showthread....911#post1143911

JzG put your article up for deletion. Badgering him on this matter is a complete waste of time. Also, JzG would like nothing more than for you to do that. He would then revel in the "harassment" that the act would imply and garner undeserved sympathy.

Strategically speaking, getting on his back over this isn't a good idea.

[ColScott]

I see he complains that I called him and got his wife last year.

Maybe I should give her another bell and ask about his health.

http://www.donmurphy.net/board/showthread....911#post1143911

JzG put your article up for deletion. Badgering him on this matter is a complete waste of time. Also, JzG would like nothing more than for you to do that. He would then revel in the "harassment" that the act would imply and garner undeserved sympathy.

Strategically speaking, getting on his back over this isn't a good idea.

while I love YOU and yoru avatar, he only did that because Bass put him up to it. I am certain he never intended for it to pass.

furthermore, in the recent AfD he reveled in revealing my meatpuppets and banning them.

Again- I like and respect you- what are YOU doing to fight the evil hordes?

If I can help make this pompous loser once and for all implode off the site, I would say I am doing a good thing.

[Moulton]

Is there any doubt that WP is primarily a game site, where the players try to knock the other guy's chess pieces off the board?