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A Horse With No Name
post Thu 14th April 2011, 4:54pm
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Rather unfortunate that Jasper wasn't in that minivan that drove into the Hudson River yesterday. (No, that was not a threat, so don't call the police.)


This is the joker that templated me a few days ago for giving someone the WP:DICK (T-H-L-K-D) treatment at the WQA page. A charming little busybody.


He's also the idiot who reverted libel back into an article on the basis that it was removed by a sock.


There must be a word for what he is...



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Get your mind out of the gutter...


Have you ever made love to your wife in the shower? Well, you should...she loves it! evilgrin.gif

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post Thu 14th April 2011, 8:03pm
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I used to occasionally check in on RFAs and sometimes comment. People like that are a major reason why I stopped. The other main reason is that I got sick of what adminship is on WP: an achievement and status symbol.

I never planned on even trying for adminship, but participating in RFAs for a while only made it clearer why that was a good choice. It's not really even the process, IMO. It's the mind-numbingly bureaucratic participants, the popularity-contest nature of the thing, and the blatantly myopic denials of the obvious: "It's not a vote" and "Adminship is no big deal" were frequently cited whenever it became too apparent that everyone believes the opposite.

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post Sun 17th April 2011, 12:17am
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QUOTE(Sxeptomaniac @ Thu 14th April 2011, 4:03pm) *

It's not really even the process, IMO. It's the mind-numbingly bureaucratic participants, the popularity-contest nature of the thing, and the blatantly myopic denials of the obvious: "It's not a vote" and "Adminship is no big deal" were frequently cited whenever it became too apparent that everyone believes the opposite.


Yeah. A user might say that "adminship is no big deal" to support a candidate who's getting some opposition for inexperience. But that same user might turn around and oppose another candidate for not having enough experience to be trusted with adminship. As you say, it's a popularity contest.

As for "it's not a vote," the only thing that separates RfA from a straight vote is the fact that all the other voters can see your vote and try to harass you into changing it. On many occasions, I've seen supporters try to suppress opposing opinions by calling for them to be removed from the count.
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post Sun 17th April 2011, 2:02am
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This is why I fully support stripping away the powers that admins have into their own individual little sections that you have to apply for, like how Rollback works. It's too bad the VandelFighter permission never gets off the ground, but that's because of the extreme admin opposition to the idea.

I mean, if you gave away their ability to block users, how can they consider themselves better than everyone else?
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post Mon 18th April 2011, 5:45am
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I think we really need a page on Mr. Jasper. He has just started this ANI report. I went and looked through a few of Snakefan55's edit wars and, i've found, that all the information he is attempting to add is correct, from a little searching of my own. Yes, he shouldn't be edit warring to keep the content in, but discussing on talk pages, but the fact that the reverters aren't even bothering to check whether the info is correct or not is really irksome.

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post Tue 19th April 2011, 4:53am
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Hilarious: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Jasper_Deng_and_COI (T-H-L-K-D).

The twat has had to have "lmfao" explained to him several times.
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post Tue 19th April 2011, 8:50am
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QUOTE(melloden @ Tue 19th April 2011, 6:53am) *

Hilarious: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#User:Jasper_Deng_and_COI (T-H-L-K-D).

The twat has had to have "lmfao" explained to him several times.


I'm not laughing.

This person clearly has some sort of mental disorder.
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post Tue 19th April 2011, 12:50pm
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This is why I fully support stripping admins


Mmmmm....kinky evilgrin.gif


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This person clearly has some sort of mental disorder.


Either that, or Shappy came back to haunt Wikipedia. ermm.gif

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I mean, if you gave away their ability to block users, how can they consider themselves better than everyone else?


Which reminds me, whatever happened to Rodhullandemu? unsure.gif
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post Tue 19th April 2011, 4:58pm
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 19th April 2011, 2:50pm) *

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This is why I fully support stripping admins


Mmmmm....kinky evilgrin.gif


QUOTE(-DS- @ Tue 19th April 2011, 4:50am) *


This person clearly has some sort of mental disorder.


Either that, or Shappy came back to haunt Wikipedia. ermm.gif

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I mean, if you gave away their ability to block users, how can they consider themselves better than everyone else?


Which reminds me, whatever happened to Rodhullandemu? unsure.gif


1. Who's Shappy?

2. He was in the middle of his ArbCom case when Risker blocked him, then oversighted anything that could shed light on the matter. Jimbo says he'll "recommend to the Committee that Rodhullandemu be allowed back provisionally" "upon presentation to him of real-world evidence that professional/medical help has been sought and followed for six months, and upon the recommendation of those professionals".

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post Tue 19th April 2011, 5:08pm
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2. He was in the middle of his ArbCom case when Risker blocked him, then oversighted anything that could shed light on the matter. Jimbo says he'll "recommend to the Committee that Rodhullandemu be allowed back provisionally" "upon presentation to him of real-world evidence that professional/medical help has been sought and followed for six months, and upon the recommendation of those professionals".


Wow, connecting WP with the real world??? Shocking. Before having sex, should I ask my doctor to tell her that my penis is long enough?
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post Tue 19th April 2011, 5:08pm
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Rod apparently said some rather disagreeable things and made some threats against Arbcom, all of which Risker oversighted and Arbcom immediately closed the case as a indefinite block of Rod, without even dealing with what the case was about at all.

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post Tue 19th April 2011, 5:11pm
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QUOTE(Silver seren @ Tue 19th April 2011, 7:08pm) *

Rod apparently said some rather disagreeable things and made some threats against Arbcom, all of which Risker oversighted and Arbcom immediately closed the case as a indefinite block of Rod, without even dealing with what the case was about at all.


Actually, they suspended it until April 7, then closed it a few days later.

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post Tue 19th April 2011, 5:25pm
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Rod made his comments after the suspension not before. I don't know the reason for the suspension originally. Probably some BS reason about his health or something.

No, it was meant to start up again on April 7, but then he made the comments that he did and Arbcom just blocked him and closed the case.
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post Tue 19th April 2011, 6:04pm
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QUOTE(Silver seren @ Tue 19th April 2011, 1:08pm) *

Rod apparently said some rather disagreeable things and made some threats against Arbcom, all of which Risker oversighted and Arbcom immediately closed the case as a indefinite block of Rod, without even dealing with what the case was about at all.


Risker has a long history of erasing statements from public view. dry.gif

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1. Who's Shappy?



He was the star of an incredible video, in which he lectured a group of very grumpy old men on ageism in the RfA process. smile.gif
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post Tue 19th April 2011, 6:07pm
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 19th April 2011, 6:04pm) *

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1. Who's Shappy?



He was the star of an incredible video, in which he lectured a group of very grumpy old men on ageism in the RfA process. smile.gif


Links or it didn't happen.

No, really, who was he?
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post Tue 19th April 2011, 6:10pm
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Jimbo says he'll "recommend to the Committee that Rodhullandemu be allowed back provisionally" "upon presentation to him of real-world evidence that professional/medical help has been sought and followed for six months, and upon the recommendation of those professionals".


I hope that on principle, they ignore him. What more influence ought Jimbo to have than any other fairly non-productive editor?

If Rodhullandemu still reads this forum ... I came up with something far more useful for him to do with the last of his days.

Rod, and anyone else in his position, try volunteering as a moderator for your local, or even regional Freecycle Network groups.


See Freecycle.org.

Real people, real stuff, real community spirit ... you even get to do face to faces far more often.
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post Tue 19th April 2011, 6:13pm
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1. Who's Shappy?



He was the star of an incredible video, in which he lectured a group of very grumpy old men on ageism in the RfA process. smile.gif


Links or it didn't happen.

No, really, who was he?


The video used to be online, but it was removed by a certain Ed Wynn lookalike on Arbcom. That was about two years ago.
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post Tue 19th April 2011, 8:21pm
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 19th April 2011, 7:04pm) *

He was the star of an incredible video, in which he lectured a group of very grumpy old men on ageism in the RfA process. smile.gif

I remember that video; a well-trained and rather formally dressed 12-year-old kid being prompted by his father in the background and supported by Newyorkbrad to his right. Bizarre.
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Tue 19th April 2011, 2:04pm) *


Risker has a long history of erasing statements from public view. dry.gif



Actually, as I explained to Silver last time he brought this up, Risker wasn't the one who oversighted the statements by RHE...

I was.

Unfortunately, when we tried to explain to Silver the situation on why the oversight was necessary (with Alison, and others who saw the statements trying to explain as well), he thought we were all persecuting him.

Dammed if you do, Dammed if you don't.

I will say that Silver has got the timeline wrong.

*shrugs*

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I don't think remembering who exactly oversighted the information is really necessary.

And I do understand why it was necessary within policy, I just think the policy is ignorant and wrong.

And if I have the timeline wrong, it's because no one really explained anything in any real detail. It took me forever to even get what I did out of you guys. hrmph.gif
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