The Joe H. challenge to Goethean Options Rating

[victim of censorship]

=Hello pathetic and cowardly little man=
AKA...Goethean (T-C-L-K-R-D)
As you know where I live, I know were you live as well, so I have committed to confined my augments with you to this cesspool and Wikpeidia Review so as not to have it spill out in the street and I hope you do the same.

Make no mistake, I have ABSOLUTELY no respect for your beliefs and methods of intellectual thuggery, bullying... You're a little man, pathetic and cowardly - intellectual, spiritual, and morally corrupt...your shameful ways of gaming Wikirulez, and other equally low games, in order to foist your rotten and flawed point of view, is reflective of your ethics I have seen on wikipeidia for years now. What is sad is no one calls you to task, with out getting wacked by your admin friends.

Now if you like to hide here, fine, but I make you a challenge, assuming you are brave enough and so sure of your beliefs, to crawl out from this dark and dank hiding place and on to Wikireview (a venue where you can't call an admin with tools, where you have to stand toe to toe on the merit of your augments and defend your sorry self, to the charges I make there, that your new age beliefs are garbage, and Ramakrishna's is just power mad homo erotic addict and your a sorry little thuggish boor.

Again, if you should MAN UP instead of being a coward, then I await your presence at Wikipedia Review so you can tell me and the, world at large, why your so right and the world is so wrong. MAN UP or hid like the weak bully boy you are.???

Any rate I be waiting for you there.

JoE

Addendum:
Looks like Goathed is crying to his little owl face turkey.. ...Tiptoety (T-C-L-K-R-D) ....
MAN UP GOETHEAN COME HERE AND SHOW WHY YOUR RIGHT!!

This is how Goethean "Mans up" with the help of his lacky wikiadmin buddy Acroterion

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[Somey]

Hmm. Apparently what happened this time was, AnonIP 67.250.120.197 tried to add some "external links" to the article on Deborah Burlingame (T-H-L-K-D), who apparently is some sort of conservative 9/11 victims' advocate. Goethean reverted that, claiming that 67.250.120.197 was a "Joehazelton sock" and altering the relevant "SPI" page to reflect this claim. 67.250.120.197 may or may not be Mr. Victim (I'd guess not, since he's never posted here on WR from 67-anything), but in any event, Goathead then went on to accuse Spaceysrockets (T-C-L-K-R-D) of being "Joehazelton" as well, when Spaceysrockets voted to delete one of Goathead's pet articles on one of his new-age pals, Dawn Covington (T-H-L-K-D), and also tried to re-insert some criticism of another one of Goathead's pals, George Berkeley. Both 67.250.120.197 and Spaceysrockets were blocked, apparently at Goathead's behest.

My guess is that Spaceysrockets probably was Mr. Victim, who in turn was alerted to the 67.250.120.197 situation by the change to the SPI page. But he did nothing with the account that was actually "blockworthy" - I understand that they block Mr. Victim's known IP addresses pretty much reflexively, but I don't see anything that would even have warranted a CheckUser on that account. So, my conclusion is that both blocks were abusive.

Why don't they just make Goathead an admin/bureaucrat/checkuser/steward, if they're just going to do whatever he wants them to? It would save time... it looks like they don't even bother to check these things, they just do whatever he says. Meanwhile, he continues to spam WP with BS about these marginal new-age guru-types whom nobody has ever heard of (and, I suspect, deservedly so).

[victim of censorship]

Hmm. Apparently what happened this time was, AnonIP 67.250.120.197 tried to add some "external links" to the article on Deborah Burlingame (T-H-L-K-D), who apparently is some sort of conservative 9/11 victims' advocate. Goethean reverted that, claiming that 67.250.120.197 was a "Joehazelton sock" and altering the relevant "SPI" page to reflect this claim. 67.250.120.197 may or may not be Mr. Victim (I'd guess not, since he's never posted here on WR from 67-anything), but in any event, Goathead then went on to accuse Spaceysrockets (T-C-L-K-R-D) of being "Joehazelton" as well, when Spaceysrockets voted to delete one of Goathead's pet articles on one of his new-age pals, Dawn Covington (T-H-L-K-D), and also tried to re-insert some criticism of another one of Goathead's pals, George Berkeley. Both 67.250.120.197 and Spaceysrockets were blocked, apparently at Goathead's behest.

My guess is that Spaceysrockets probably was Mr. Victim, who in turn was alerted to the 67.250.120.197 situation by the change to the SPI page. But he did nothing with the account that was actually "blockworthy" - I understand that they block Mr. Victim's known IP addresses pretty much reflexively, but I don't see anything that would even have warranted a CheckUser on that account. So, my conclusion is that both blocks were abusive.

Why don't they just make Goathead an admin/bureaucrat/checkuser/steward, if they're just going to do whatever he wants them to? It would save time... it looks like they don't even bother to check these things, they just do whatever he says. Meanwhile, he continues to spam WP with BS about these marginal new-age guru-types whom nobody has ever heard of (and, I suspect, deservedly so).

I bet Goathead loves to suck the dicks of some of the admins, like MuZemike (T-C-L-K-R-D) .

This is why I spit on Wikipedia, Jimmy Wales, and Goathed and the rest of the despicable jagoffs that admin Wikipedia .... god help them if their paths ever cross mine in real life.

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[Somey]

I bet Goathead loves to suck the dicks of some of the admins, like MuZemike (T-C-L-K-R-D) .

Well, some people will provide oral sex to just about anybody. But without more details about his personal life, we can't really say if he actually likes it or not...

This doesn't answer the question at hand, though, which is whether or not you (i.e., Mr. Victim) were the person behind the AnonIP 67.250.120.197 and/or User:Spaceysrockets. Also, we need a special term to describe these Goethean vs. Mr. Victim threads... something like "another Joeblock" or, if you like allusions to German philosophy, "another German philosophers suck thread."

[victim of censorship]

I bet Goathead loves to suck the dicks of some of the admins, like MuZemike (T-C-L-K-R-D) .

Well, some people will provide oral sex to just about anybody. But without more details about his personal life, we can't really say if he actually likes it or not...

This doesn't answer the question at hand, though, which is whether or not you (i.e., Mr. Victim) were the person behind the AnonIP 67.250.120.197 and/or User:Spaceysrockets. Also, we need a special term to describe these Goethean vs. Mr. Victim threads... something like "another Joeblock" or, if you like allusions to German philosophy, "another German philosophers suck thread."

To answer your question about 67.250.120.197, that answer is no, that was not me.

Now I have a question for Alison?...Why is Goethean allowed to to run like a wild feral animal on Wikipedia and be the abusive jackass he is???

This is why I spit on Wikipedia, Jimmy Wales, and Goathed and the rest of the despicable jagoffs that admin Wikipedia .... god help them if their paths ever cross mine in real life.

Why? What would you do to them? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/ermm.gif)

Give 'em a big ol' wedgie, I suspect (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif)

TO BAD you ENABLE GOETHEAN's abuse... so I have no respect.

TOO BAD you Use RanDoM cAPs ... .. so I have no reshpekt.

To bad you don't ban Goethean

[Alison]

Now I have a question for Alison?...Why is Goethean allowed to to run like a wild feral animal on Wikipedia and be the abusive jackass he is???

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To bad you don't ban Goethean

For what? Being a dick? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif) There wouldn't be many editors left if bannination was being handed out for that. What has he specifically done that requires admin action? Seriously - I've not really followed the whole Goethean thing (largely because of your own attitude, to be honest, and the fact that I'm trying to disconnect from WP) - at least point me to some *genuine* misdeeds here. Yes, he constantly cries to admins to have your many, many socks banned - and some that clearly aren't yours - I've stepped in before over other innocent editors, as well you know. Oh, and he's got some New Age bee in his bonnet (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif)

But other than that, and your personalized campaign against him - what exactly is there?? Help me out here.

[victim of censorship]

Now I have a question for Alison?...Why is Goethean allowed to to run like a wild feral animal on Wikipedia and be the abusive jackass he is???

[...]

To bad you don't ban Goethean

For what? Being a dick? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif) There wouldn't be many editors left if bannination was being handed out for that. What has he specifically done that requires admin action? Seriously - I've not really followed the whole Goethean thing (largely because of your own attitude, to be honest, and the fact that I'm trying to disconnect from WP) - at least point me to some *genuine* misdeeds here. Yes, he constantly cries to admins to have your many, many socks banned - and some that clearly aren't yours - I've stepped in before over other innocent editors, as well you know. Oh, and he's got some New Age bee in his bonnet (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif)

But other than that, and your personalized campaign against him - what exactly is there?? Help me out here.

WP:CIVIL... WP:AGF.... WP:HARSSMENT...and simple fair play. The simple fact is there is no governance or fair review on Wikipedia??? Just street gangs, warlords and jagoffs (like those who enable GOATHED) and who have no fear of due to the admins that protect the jagoffs like Goathed. I have some history (which was removed) and see how the much respect there was...

Read and learn. Just a little note all of this was removed from Wikipedia by the lovely jackass admins in violation of GNU Free Documentation License to hide the total abuse of me by the ackass admins. In my my attempt to see the my friend Bio was treated fairly, I was treated like subhuman and in the end was abused by a wild eyed partisan democrat in total violation of WP:COI Rob Gamaliel, and his friend Goethean.

I spit on those enablers who help make Wikipedia evil. DAM right it's personal. WIKIPEDIA IS A CESSPOOL OF EVIL and those who enable it are the scum of the earth. I will live a 100 years to see wikipedia diminished to a JOKE and repudiated for the crater of sewerage it is.

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[Alison]

Ok, so I got the gratuitous insult, etc. I was expecting that. But all I'm seeing here is some dispute back in - what - 2006? And, in fairness, it looks like you got picked on, too (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unhappy.gif) I wasn't even an admin back in those days.

Anyways - this is now. What exactly can I do here? You've not given me much reason to even chide the guy, let alone banhammer him! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/confused.gif) Point out where he's repeatedly breaking the rules, show me the stuff & I'll try to deal with it. From what I can see, he's got some sort of hair-trigger JoeHazelton thing going on, where he sees your socks just about *everywhere* and uses that as a justification to shut down other editors. Now *that* is not cool. I can watch our for and possibly deal with that sort of thing. But what else?

[Tarc]

From what I can see, he's got some sort of hair-trigger JoeHazelton thing going on, where he sees your socks just about *everywhere* and uses that as a justification to shut down other editors. Now *that* is not cool. I can watch our for and possibly deal with that sort of thing. But what else?

Perhaps, but he doesn't block them himself that I can see, just files the sock reports. Scrolling down through the lengthy Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Joehazelton (T-H-L-K-D), seems like a hell of a lot of confirmations by a variety of admins.

So Joe, this is really all about civility? You stalk a guy for 4 years because he was mean to you on teh internets? I figured it was something political or ideological, which while also retarded, would at least be understandable.

[victim of censorship]

From what I can see, he's got some sort of hair-trigger JoeHazelton thing going on, where he sees your socks just about *everywhere* and uses that as a justification to shut down other editors. Now *that* is not cool. I can watch our for and possibly deal with that sort of thing. But what else?

Perhaps, but he doesn't block them himself that I can see, just files the sock reports. Scrolling down through the lengthy Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Joehazelton (T-H-L-K-D), seems like a hell of a lot of confirmations by a variety of admins.

So Joe, this is really all about civility? You stalk a guy for 4 years because he was mean to you on teh internets? I figured it was something political or ideological, which while also retarded, would at least be understandable.

It was always about "RIGHT" not about the religion of "Wiki"

Lest not forget that "WIKI" is a big failure.

and evil

as well as all the other "normal people's view of Wikipedia?

Finely, you Tac ... apparently your drunk on Grape Jimmy Juice, with out regard to any collective good for the rest of humanity.

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[Tarc]

From what I can see, he's got some sort of hair-trigger JoeHazelton thing going on, where he sees your socks just about *everywhere* and uses that as a justification to shut down other editors. Now *that* is not cool. I can watch our for and possibly deal with that sort of thing. But what else?

Perhaps, but he doesn't block them himself that I can see, just files the sock reports. Scrolling down through the lengthy Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Joehazelton (T-H-L-K-D), seems like a hell of a lot of confirmations by a variety of admins.

So Joe, this is really all about civility? You stalk a guy for 4 years because he was mean to you on teh internets? I figured it was something political or ideological, which while also retarded, would at least be understandable.

It was always about "RIGHT" not about the religion of "Wiki"

Lest not forget that "WIKI" is a big failure.

and evil

as well as all the other "normal people's view of Wikipedia?

Finely, you Tac ... apparently your drunk on Grape Jimmy Juice, with out regard to any collective good for the rest of humanity.

In spectacular JoeHazleton fashion, you didn't even address what I said.

Someone was mean to you on the internet. Big deal. You come across like a newbie that got banned from /b/.

[victim of censorship]

From what I can see, he's got some sort of hair-trigger JoeHazelton thing going on, where he sees your socks just about *everywhere* and uses that as a justification to shut down other editors. Now *that* is not cool. I can watch our for and possibly deal with that sort of thing. But what else?

Perhaps, but he doesn't block them himself that I can see, just files the sock reports. Scrolling down through the lengthy Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Joehazelton (T-H-L-K-D), seems like a hell of a lot of confirmations by a variety of admins.

So Joe, this is really all about civility? You stalk a guy for 4 years because he was mean to you on teh internets? I figured it was something political or ideological, which while also retarded, would at least be understandable.

It was always about "RIGHT" not about the religion of "Wiki"

Lest not forget that "WIKI" is a big failure.

and evil

as well as all the other "normal people's view of Wikipedia?

Finely, you Tac ... apparently your drunk on Grape Jimmy Juice, with out regard to any collective good for the rest of humanity.

In spectacular JoeHazleton fashion, you didn't even address what I said.

Someone was mean to you on the internet. Big deal. You come across like a newbie that got banned from /b/.

Again, you fail to pick up what I said. I will stated in plain language.

First and foremost, I don't recognize your cult religion of wiki.

Second, Wikipedia is evil and in the long term needs to be shut down.

Third, In the short term, it's fair game to point out Hypocrisy, hate, and hurt Wikipedia and its admin do, as well I will use the rules to protect some of my friends whose (so called) bios exist on Wikipedia, in the short term, even though the wiki rules are almost nonexistent.

Fourth, To use Goethean as a "poster child" of the malfeasance on Wikipedia by pointing out Wikpedia governance, on a micro level.

Fifth, It's personal.

Ps... I did no wrong, under natural law, but me and my friends where wronged. You defend the evil by saying I deserved it... your really are drunk on Jimmy Juice. Wikipedia is wrong and that fact is proven on this web site (WR) by testimony and published fact beyond doubt. Wikipedia wrong should be blamed for the evil, hurt, lies, defamation, and enabling little religious bigots like Geothean to ply his trade on a website with such Google juice (high Google search engine placement).

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[Tarc]

Fifth, It's personal.

Actually, that's really the heart of 1-4 as well. You don't honestly care about the "Evils of Wikipedia" itself; it is just ammo to use against this gothean guy because it's something he likes/does.

[Zoloft]

Fifth, It's personal.

Actually, that's really the heart of 1-4 as well. You don't honestly care about the "Evils of Wikipedia" itself; it is just ammo to use against this gothean guy because it's something he likes/does.

I feel that Joe's feelings about Wikipedia are genuine. He has a vision of the corruption and naked aggression displayed by some Wikipedians that is fierce and vivid - worthy almost of Dante Alighieri.

Ye have been cast into a lake of burning feces in Joe's eyes.

[victim of censorship]

Fifth, It's personal.

Actually, that's really the heart of 1-4 as well. You don't honestly care about the "Evils of Wikipedia" itself; it is just ammo to use against this gothean guy because it's something he likes/does.

I feel that Joe's feelings about Wikipedia are genuine. He has a vision of the corruption and naked aggression displayed by some Wikipedians that is fierce and vivid - worthy almost of Dante Alighieri.

Ye have been cast into a lake of burning feces in Joe's eyes.

Try this for intercultural violence.
Can't defend due to the fact these guy are afraid of me

What sniveling cowards Goethean and MuZemike are and the rest of the bullies of Wikipedia.


again, the people who run Wikipedia are scummy, deceitful, lying cowards.

Wikipedia is unworthy of any thing now, but vandalism, (which is legal) and any and all legal means to destroy it. Wikipedia is evil of the worst kind. a wolf in sheep clothing, pretending as to be something good, but evil in its actions by evil people with the morels of rat and the soul of Pol Pot.

I SPIT ON IT and all who enable it.

Finely to Goethean. This man is a shameful corrupt lowlife.. What is frighting is He works a private trade-school/university and spreads his filth to those who don't know any better.

This coward is afraid to defend himself under real debate of his point of view. I have no respect for a bullyboy like this little prick.

All admins are enablers to the violence and corruption of Wikipedia.

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[Alison]

All admins are enablers to the violence and corruption of Wikipedia.

Sure, but what do you have against Asian people, Joe? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/blink.gif)

[victim of censorship]

All admins are enablers to the violence and corruption of Wikipedia.

Sure, but what do you have against Asian people, Joe? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/blink.gif)

FUCK YOU and FUCK your out of context, personal attack with your race card BULLSHIT.

zipper head is a Frankenstein with a criminal brain dropped in to the brain pan...
That's the context of the statement, you need do be more in tune with US slang.

see here to view the multiple meanings see in particular definition 8,9,10,~ 14

Or this


or this assuming you can read

The meaning of words evolve and change over time, see the word Gay as an example...

But you had to drop the race card, typical of the liberal jackasses who are better the thou...
and who can not win the augment with out ad houminum, smear and lies.
Fuck you for enabling the cowards on Wikipedia.
PC is dead honey bun... I will not be censored my some moron drinking PCU. juice.

Lastly, I have no feeling of ill will for "Asian" but what is disturbing is your ease which you assume I was some how guilty of a "thought crime" and your were so eager to condemn me of this, even though your are ignorant of the meanings of the word I use has and the context of my use.

PS Goethean is of "German descent" not India (I have proof in the form of a picture of him as well as his full name, which I can share in private if you like), I would think they (Asian Indians) would not want a lowlife like Goathed among them.

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[Alison]

Sure, but what do you have against Asian people, Joe? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/blink.gif)

FUCK YOU and FUCK your out of context, personal attack with your race card BULLSHIT.

zipper head is a Frankenstein with a criminal brain dropped in to the brain pan...
That's the context of the statement, you need do be more in tune with US slang.

Joe, I work and live in an area where Asian people are the demographic majority, and white people are a minority - I know what it fucking means (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/angry.gif) In fact, spout that kinda shit around here and you'll learn pretty quickly what it means, too (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/ohmy.gif)

and who can not win the augment with out ad houminum, smear and lies.

Who was first with the ad hominems, Joe? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif)

[Somey]

Joe, I work and live in an area where Asian people are the demographic majority, and white people are a minority - I know what it fucking means (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/angry.gif)

Seriously, Alison, in the Midwest we just don't know that definition. I didn't know it until just now, and I'm originally from the East Coast - the Washington DC area, where Asian folks represent a fairly substantial minority. In Chicago, I can definitely see how someone might not be aware of that meaning.

And one more thing - why do we avoid mentioning Goethean (T-C-L-K-R-D) 's real name? He's used it on so many websites at this point, it's utterly trivial to find it now, including photos. Are we just holding back because we know he'll accuse us of "outing" him anyway? And if so, doesn't anybody over there on WP realize this guy is basically full of shit?

I'll admit that Mr. Victim's activities regarding "Goethean" are rather obsessive, and like many others here I do wish he'd tone it down, but the fact remains, Goethean is a classic WP "POV pusher" and hardly anything is ever done to stop him.

[victim of censorship]

Joe, I work and live in an area where Asian people are the demographic majority, and white people are a minority - I know what it fucking means (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/angry.gif)

Seriously, Alison, in the Midwest we just don't know that definition. I didn't know it until just now, and I'm originally from the East Coast - the Washington DC area, where Asian folks represent a fairly substantial minority. In Chicago, I can definitely see how someone might not be aware of that meaning.

And one more thing - why do we avoid mentioning Goethean (T-C-L-K-R-D) 's real name? He's used it on so many websites at this point, it's utterly trivial to find it now, including photos. Are we just holding back because we know he'll accuse us of "outing" him anyway? And if so, doesn't anybody over there on WP realize this guy is basically full of shit?

I'll admit that Mr. Victim's activities regarding "Goethean" are rather obsessive, and like many others here I do wish he'd tone it down, but the fact remains, Goethean is a classic WP "POV pusher" and hardly anything is ever done to stop him.

My Obsessive interest is due to goatherd obsessive Joe Hazelton complex as well as his stalking me on Wikipedia. Since he wants to play, that way, then I'm game, my goal is to get him removed. Now Alison you could release me from Mr Mdick the beaded whale, if you keep an eye on this dude and bannhammer him out, when he gets rowdy again (which he will). Then I will be done and back to my light hobby of destroying wiki rather then Goathed.

[Tarc]

Joe, I work and live in an area where Asian people are the demographic majority, and white people are a minority - I know what it fucking means (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/angry.gif)

Seriously, Alison, in the Midwest we just don't know that definition. I didn't know it until just now, and I'm originally from the East Coast - the Washington DC area, where Asian folks represent a fairly substantial minority. In Chicago, I can definitely see how someone might not be aware of that meaning.

And one more thing - why do we avoid mentioning Goethean (T-C-L-K-R-D) 's real name? He's used it on so many websites at this point, it's utterly trivial to find it now, including photos. Are we just holding back because we know he'll accuse us of "outing" him anyway? And if so, doesn't anybody over there on WP realize this guy is basically full of shit?

I'll admit that Mr. Victim's activities regarding "Goethean" are rather obsessive, and like many others here I do wish he'd tone it down, but the fact remains, Goethean is a classic WP "POV pusher" and hardly anything is ever done to stop him.

My Obsessive interest is due to goatherd obsessive Joe Hazelton complex as well as his stalking me on Wikipedia. Since he wants to play, that way, then I'm game, my goal is to get him removed. Now Alison you could release me from Mr Mdick the beaded whale, if you keep an eye on this dude and bannhammer him out, when he gets rowdy again (which he will). Then I will be done and back to my light hobby of destroying wiki rather then Goathed.

Seeing how you are an utter failure on both fronts so far, Joe, I don't think either the WMF or gothean has much to worry about.

WMF:

We've never really seen anything of substance from you regarding the WMF...whatever happened with that vague hand-waving about pending lawsuits or the local politicians you're allegedly buddies with?

Gothean:

You're never going to accomplish anything regarding him by doing this lame sock-of-the-day shtick, especially when you're so retardedly obvious, i.e. User:Chicago nights suburban days (T-H-L-K-D)]. In many ways, Wikipedia really is an MMORPG, and if you want to slay the monsters then you have to actually play the game of AN/I/s, RFCs, ArbComs and such.

If I thought you were capable, I'd suggest trying to maintain a legitimate account and then engage gothean in some form of dispute resolution, get some more outside eyes on whatever the beef is.

[Alison]

Seeing how you are an utter failure on both fronts so far, Joe, I don't think either the WMF or gothean has much to worry about.

WMF:

We've never really seen anything of substance from you regarding the WMF...whatever happened with that vague hand-waving about pending lawsuits or the local politicians you're allegedly buddies with?

Gothean:

You're never going to accomplish anything regarding him by doing this lame sock-of-the-day shtick, especially when you're so retardedly obvious, i.e. User:Chicago nights suburban days (T-H-L-K-D)]. In many ways, Wikipedia really is an MMORPG, and if you want to slay the monsters then you have to actually play the game of AN/I/s, RFCs, ArbComs and such.

If I thought you were capable, I'd suggest trying to maintain a legitimate account and then engage gothean in some form of dispute resolution, get some more outside eyes on whatever the beef is.

Goethean went running straight to WP:SPI with the above sock - why, I don't know, as it's painfully obvious who it is. I ran the case anyways - largely so I could call Goethean on his mindless reversion on the Ben Lowe article, and because I've started watching the "Joe and Goathead Show" since it recently came up on here.

It's pretty clear that *both* of them are off the mark here. From the article above, it's clear that Joe wants to remove some apologetics from Ben Lowe's own site that Goethean insists on including. Joe wants to paint the Democrat in a bad light, whereas Goathead will hear nothing bad of the guy, and will be happy to cite Ben Lowe making excuses for himself (in violation of WP:SPS).

In short; it's like watching two Rock 'Em Sock 'Em Robots, where two wingnuts beat each other endlessly over the head. The major difference, really, being that Goathead knows how to play the WikiGameâ„¢, but Joe does not (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/bored.gif)

[victim of censorship]

It's pretty clear that *both* of them are off the mark here. From the article above, it's clear that Joe wants to remove some apologetics from Ben Lowe's own site that Goethean insists on including. Joe wants to paint the Democrat in a bad light, whereas Goathead will hear nothing bad of the guy, and will be happy to cite Ben Lowe making excuses for himself (in violation of WP:SPS).

Whats funny is I want the race baiting stuff on the wikipedia site. This will play real well in the 6th. Since Ben Lowe never grew up here (the 6th) he has no idea it a Big fat negative.

Pandering race baiting will not set well with most of the voters of the 6th as it is a sure way to look like an ass to the rank and file voters in the 6th... That's why I (my friends) never tried to hard to get rid of it. I'm delighted its there...

I went up to challenge the more egregious example of SPS as a matter to bait and bring Goathed up to the light and show what he's really about. I'm not as dumb as I look.

Btw, on e Nov3, I fully expect this failed, Non-notable politician bio be removed from wiki.

Addendum: Goethean (T-C-L-K-R-D) See what He put up in response to justified his edits at the Ben lowe bio. Whats interesting is Goathed's sense of ownership, entitlement of his point of view, with out respecting others. This man is with out ethics and has a "win at all cost, ends justified the means, moral relativistic point of view and hates any one calling to task flaws to his warped and bigoted world view.

This man is out of control and enabled by the little rodents that run Wikipedia.

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