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Brandweek - lifestyle special issue
Jimmy Wales, Founder, Wikipedia

Aug 29, 2010
- Mike Chapman

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What quality do you most value in your friends?
Loyalty. Those who stick by you through thick and thin.


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What are you reading at the moment?
Warriors, a series of books for kids about warrior cats... I have only read four.


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What's your favorite restaurant?
The little pizza joint across the street from me in Florida. My daughter and I go there, eat pizza and read about warrior cats.

Location of possible pizza joints nearby Golden Acres, in Dunedin, Florida


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What's your guilty pleasure?
Eating the Pringles from the hotel mini-bar.


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All-time favorite book:
The Fountainhead by Ayn Rand


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All-time favorite movie:
Touch of Evil (1958)



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What's funny is that Jimbo complains when negative aspects of his private life come to public attention as he is a "private citizen," but then he does all these public interviews. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif)

You can either be a public figure or a private citizen. You can't be both! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/hrmph.gif)
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Mon 30th August 2010, 4:24pm) *
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What are you reading at the moment?
Warriors, a series of books for kids about warrior cats... I have only read four.


That's...interesting. I wonder why he is reading that.
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What are you reading at the moment?
Warriors, a series of books for kids about warrior cats... I have only read four.


That's...interesting. I wonder why he is reading that.

Because his daughter is? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/mellow.gif)

(BTW - the thread title caught me for a moment. Thank goodness it wasn't literal! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/confused.gif) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) )
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QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 31st August 2010, 2:49am) *

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What are you reading at the moment?
Warriors, a series of books for kids about warrior cats... I have only read four.


That's...interesting. I wonder why he is reading that.

Because his daughter is? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/mellow.gif)

(BTW - the thread title caught me for a moment. Thank goodness it wasn't literal! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/confused.gif) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) )


I'd rather see his ginger balls than read him randomize about his daily life.
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QUOTE(powercorrupts @ Mon 30th August 2010, 10:05pm) *
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(BTW - the thread title caught me for a moment. Thank goodness it wasn't literal! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/confused.gif) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) )
I'd rather see his ginger balls than read him randomize about his daily life.

Wales is Welsh. He's not a red-headed kilt-wearing Scot.
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(BTW - the thread title caught me for a moment. Thank goodness it wasn't literal! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/confused.gif) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) )
I'd rather see his ginger balls than read him randomize about his daily life.

Wales is Welsh. He's not a red-headed kilt-wearing Scot.


Good valley's name, "Jimbo".

The wacky thing is - he's Irish (of the polystyrene variety).

What was that about moratoriums, favouritism etc etc?

Can the world ever be peaceful with Wikipedia around?

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Can the world ever be peaceful with Wikipedia around?

If you want peace, work for justice.
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Loyalty. Those who stick by you through thick and thin.



LOL. Now they should interview his former friends and ask them why he'd say that.
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We all know that, according to Jimbo's Objectivist views, things like altruism and charity are morally wrong. But another question occurs to me. How would Rand have felt about someone falsely using the ideas of altruism and charity to exploit people and pursue one's own self-interest? What is the Objectivist position on charlatans?
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QUOTE(everyking @ Tue 31st August 2010, 4:19am) *

We all know that, according to Jimbo's Objectivist views, things like altruism and charity are morally wrong.


Neither Jimbo nor Objectivism have a problem with charity.

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But another question occurs to me. How would Rand have felt about someone falsely using the ideas of altruism and charity to exploit people and pursue one's own self-interest?


She probably would have said that was impossible.
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QUOTE(anthony @ Tue 31st August 2010, 5:24am) *

Neither Jimbo nor Objectivism have a problem with charity.


You'll have to explain it to me more thoroughly, then. Where is the distinction between altruism and charity? Isn't charity just an expression of altruism?
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She probably would have said that was impossible.


Again, I don't follow. How can it impossible to falsely use the idea for selfish gain?
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QUOTE(NuclearWarfare @ Mon 30th August 2010, 8:23pm) *
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That's...interesting. I wonder why he is reading that.

I'd say he's going a little out of his way to point out that he's reading these books, with his daughter, in a local pizza parlor no less - IOW, "look at me, I'm spending quality time with my kid, teaching her the joys of reading, so surely I can't be guilty of promoting a website that threatens the survival of the publishing industry As We Know It, and coincidentally has been carrying numerous pornographic images of children, in some cases over my own objections."

It's not like he's getting her to read Cult of the Amateur either, is it?
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QUOTE(anthony @ Mon 30th August 2010, 11:24pm) *
Neither Jimbo nor Objectivism have a problem with charity.

Of course not - how can you have a problem with something you never even think about? However, charity does have a problem with them.

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How would Rand have felt about someone falsely using the ideas of altruism and charity to exploit people and pursue one's own self-interest?
She probably would have said that was impossible.

Again, correct - since Rand considered altruism and charity to be false concepts in and of themselves, Rand probably would have considered it impossible to "use them falsely." That would be sort of a double-negative, I guess.
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Jimbo does certainly value loyalty: he expects people to be unthinkingly and unswervingly loyal to him, while at the same time offering no loyalty to anyone else whatsoever.
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QUOTE(everyking @ Tue 31st August 2010, 5:07am) *

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Neither Jimbo nor Objectivism have a problem with charity.


You'll have to explain it to me more thoroughly, then. Where is the distinction between altruism and charity? Isn't charity just an expression of altruism?


As I understand it, charity is helping others, while altruism is hurting yourself in order to help others. For Rand's view of charity, see here.

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She probably would have said that was impossible.


Again, I don't follow. How can it impossible to falsely use the idea for selfish gain?


This message board is probably not a good venue for me to explain that. Fortunately, my comment was not that it is impossible, but that Rand probably would have said it was. She held honesty to be a virtue, and the practice of virtues to be in ones self-interest.
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QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Tue 31st August 2010, 6:45am) *

Jimbo does certainly value loyalty: he expects people to be unthinkingly and unswervingly loyal to him, while at the same time offering no loyalty to anyone else whatsoever.


Of course, people who will stand with him no matter what horrible stuff he does. "Reliable accomplices" is the phrase that springs to mind.
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QUOTE(everyking @ Tue 31st August 2010, 12:24am) *
"Reliable accomplices" is the phrase that springs to mind.

For me, not so much. More like this.
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Jimbo does certainly value loyalty: he expects people to be unthinkingly and unswervingly loyal to him, while at the same time offering no loyalty to anyone else whatsoever.


Of course, people who will stand with him no matter what horrible stuff he does. "Reliable accomplices" is the phrase that springs to mind.

I think the word is "fealty".
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