Arbcom Elections 2008 Options

[Rootology]

Official link: Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2008

List or arbiters whose terms expire:
1. Blnguyen
2. Charles Matthews
3. James F.
4. Morven
5. Thebainer

Expiring arbiters who have said they will not seek re-election:
(Please reply with others who have said as much, I'll update this top level post)
1. Morven (here)

Expiring arbiters who have previously won re-election:
(Please reply with others who have pulled this off, I'll update this top level post)
1. ?

Number of open seats (normal): 5, plus one extra open one since Paul August retired, for 6 total. Paul's spot is only good to December 2009, when he would have expired anyway. The others are currently set to be the normal 3 years.

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[Proabivouac]

Expiring arbiters who have said they will not seek re-election:
(Please reply with others who have said as much, I'll update this top level post)
1. Morven

What pleasant news that we shall finally we shall be rid of this intolerably corrupt cronyist.

[Alex]

I can already think of who will be running, and I can already see the opposes I will write. Goody! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif)

(Well, I never got very far supporting everything, so I don't have much to lose...)

[everyking]

Surely none of them could be re-elected, and I hope they'll save us the trouble by simply not running. I want to see someone run on a platform of holding meaningful votes on public proposals during ArbCom cases, to facilitate quick and transparent decision-making, instead of this secretive elitist business of reaching a consensus behind closed doors (even if that takes six months). Even better--a candidate who announces that they will not participate on the ArbCom mailing list at all, or only when sensitive, privacy related issues need to be discussed, and will instead do all of their discussion on-wiki.

[Crestatus]

Who all are eligible?

[Alex]

Surely none of them could be re-elected, and I hope they'll save us the trouble by simply not running. I want to see someone run on a platform of holding meaningful votes on public proposals during ArbCom cases, to facilitate quick and transparent decision-making, instead of this secretive elitist business of reaching a consensus behind closed doors (even if that takes six months). Even better--a candidate who announces that they will not participate on the ArbCom mailing list at all, or only when sensitive, privacy related issues need to be discussed, and will instead do all of their discussion on-wiki.

Of those ending their terms, I'd probably only be able to support Charles Matthews with confidence. The rest are either too busy elsewhere, or unsuitable.

[maiawatatos]

I wouldn't support any if those if they did decide to run - CM may be the best of a bad bunch, but in this case, that's not saying anything.

James F., Morven and Thebainer will certainly not be missed for even a millisecond.

[Crestatus]

I could vote for Thebainer, but definitely not for James F or Charles. Does Blnguyen even participate in Arbcom anymore?

[Giggy]

Does Blnguyen even participate in Arbcom anymore?

He was never overly excessive in arbitration (spends his time writing articles... zomg).

[maiawatatos]

I would have thought it was fairly evident that he won't run again...

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[Alex]

I wouldn't support any if those if they did decide to run - CM may be the best of a bad bunch, but in this case, that's not saying anything.

James F., Morven and Thebainer will certainly not be missed for even a millisecond.

I have met Charles and James in real life, and think both of them would be fine. However, James is way too busy with other stuff to get my vote.

[The Joy]

Number of open seats (normal): 5, plus one extra open one since Paul August retired, for 6 total. Paul's spot is only good to December 2009, when he would have expired anyway. The others are currently set to be the normal 3 years.

Gee, I didn't realize Paul August was to expire in December 2009! (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/ohmy.gif)

Since when can Election Stewards predict death? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/ph34r.gif)

[Vicky]

Charles Matthews was of course responsible for Poetlister's first unblock.

[Proabivouac]

James F., Morven and Thebainer will certainly not be missed for even a millisecond.

I nominate Morven's wife Alana Brown to take his place on ArbCom:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/morven/sets/371552/

Charles Matthews was of course responsible for Poetlister's first unblock.

This is interesting. Can you share a link?

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[Castle Rock]

James F., Morven and Thebainer will certainly not be missed for even a millisecond.

I nominate Morven's wife Alana Brown to take his place on ArbCom:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/morven/sets/371552/

Charles Matthews was of course responsible for Poetlister's first unblock.

This is interesting. Can you share a link?

22:55, 31 January 2006 Charles Matthews (Talk | contribs) unblocked "Poetlister (Talk | contribs)" ‎ (try again; discussed with blocking admin David Gerard by email)

[KamrynMatika]

James F., Morven and Thebainer will certainly not be missed for even a millisecond.

I nominate Morven's wife Alana Brown to take his place on ArbCom:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/morven/sets/371552/

Can we please not have random nasty pot shots at completely uninvolved and unrelated people?

[Shalom]

UninvitedCompany has been inactive for several months. His seat will probably be replaced as was done with Flcelloguy.

[Neil]

I am thinking of running. I can't do worse than last time.

I will wait and see who else runs, though, as if there's some good candidates I won't bother.

[KamrynMatika]

I am thinking of running. I can't do worse than last time.

I will wait and see who else runs, though, as if there's some good candidates I won't bother.

LOL @ the opposes. "You must be this tall to ride the Hitler mobile". Priceless.

I predict WJBScribe and AGK will run, as well as maybe Rlevse. I'm looking forward to seeing who the obvious fail candidates are going to be.

[Neil]

Ryan Postlethwaite will be running, I believe.

Particularly after his RFB failed, Ryan has been getting more involved in the Mediation Committee, ramped up his attempts to be involved in making community proposals (such as the latest Betacommand one), and has been advocating various changes to how candidates are selected on the 2008 elections discussion page.

[Proabivouac]

I predict WJBScribe and AGK will run, as well as maybe Rlevse. I'm looking forward to seeing who the obvious fail candidates are going to be.

The defeat of WJBscribe should be priority number one to anyone who'd like to see a clean Wikipedia.


http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=19025
http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=15343
http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=17490

[KamrynMatika]

I predict WJBScribe and AGK will run, as well as maybe Rlevse. I'm looking forward to seeing who the obvious fail candidates are going to be.

The defeat of WJBscribe should be priority number one to anyone who'd like to see a clean Wikipedia.


http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=19025
http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=15343
http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?showtopic=17490

Of course, my comment should not necessarily be taken as supportive of any of the people I mentioned. My speculation is based on the fact that people who run for bureaucrat and succeed tend to do well in elections (like Essjay and Deskana). Anyone who has been promoted to bureaucrat recently has a good chance of succeeding.

It's all academic really, as the arbitration committee are an inherently corrupt, incompetent and useless institution that could be replaced by a computer that randomly generates decisions (and it'd probably make a better job of it). What can I say, it's fun to watch. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/ph34r.gif)

Ryan Postlethwaite will be running, I believe.

God, not again. He nominates himself for everything. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/huh.gif) I wish he'd get the picture already (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/rolleyes.gif)

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[Proabivouac]

It's all academic really, as the arbitration committee are an inherently corrupt, incompetent and useless institution that could be replaced by a computer that randomly generates decisions (and it'd probably make a better job of it).

I don't think it quite academic: while ArbCom is manifestly incapable of performing its supposed function of dispute resolution, it succeeds in harassing its enemies (e.g. Giano) while protecting its friends (e.g. JzG, Elonka.)

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[wikiwhistle]

I am thinking of running. I can't do worse than last time.

I will wait and see who else runs, though, as if there's some good candidates I won't bother.

I was going to ask if you would run. But I think it takes a degree of superiority complex to be an arb, and some of the people who might stand will probably have The Edge on you when it comes to that. You need to work harder at projecting Unwarranted Self- Importance (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)

I predict WJBScribe and AGK will run, as well as maybe Rlevse. I'm looking forward to seeing who the obvious fail candidates are going to be.

Will the panties have "Nonvocalscream for Arbcom' on them this year?(IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)

What do people think of Jehochman as an arb?

I don't know him that well but he comes from some sort of legal background, and contributes under his real name.

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[thekohser]

James F., Morven and Thebainer will certainly not be missed for even a millisecond.

I nominate Morven's wife Alana Brown to take his place on ArbCom:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/morven/sets/371552/

Can we please not have random nasty pot shots at completely uninvolved and unrelated people?

It does at least speak to the notion of "Could you imagine an Encyclopedia Britannica editor taking someone sporting this level of personal character to the company holiday dinner?"

There is a huge difference between the interests (Pokemon, hogtie, Harry Potter, etc.) and outward "I'm here to be me, not to conform to any boring standards of Western civilization" attitudes that pervade Wikipedia, and the traditional professional interests (13th century philosophy, the Congress of Vienna, quasars, General Cable Corporation, etc.), meticulousness, and conformist attitudes that would pervade any PUBLISHED general encyclopedia.

I'm just sayin'...

(IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wink.gif)

[Carruthers]

What do people think of Jehochman as an arb?

I don't know him that well but he comes from some sort of legal background, and contributes under his real name.

I'm sure that he'll get Durova's vote!

(that said, he wouldn't be a bad choice, considering....)

I'll be very surprised if Moreschi doesn't throw his hat in this time, since he's been so active in various cases involving "fringe theories"....

[thekohser]

What do people think of Jehochman as an arb?

I don't know him that well but he comes from some sort of legal background, and contributes under his real name.

He doesn't sound very legally-oriented to me at all.

+++++++++++++++

Jonathan Hochman
A graduate of Yale University with two degrees in Computer Science, Hochman's credentials include:

Qualified Google Advertising Professional
Yahoo Search Marketing Ambassador
Microsoft adExcellence Member
Search Engine Marketing Professionals Organization (SEMPO) member firm
Search Engine Marketing New England (SEMNE) member firm
Search Engine Strategies conference speaker
Search Marketing Expo conference speaker
High Rankings SEO Forum moderator
Organization of Independent Software Vendors member

In 1990 Hochman set up a consulting practice in New York City, focusing on international business development. For more than a decade he represented Russian clients in both import and export transactions with the United States, Europe and Asia. He also built web sites for clients . In 2004 he launched Hochman Consultants, a firm that specializes in Internet marketing, search engine optimization, and pay-per-click advertising.

+++++++++++++++

One time, though, when he saw that I posted something here about something that Orbitz was trying to do on Wikipedia, he jumped to conclusions and announced on Wikipedia that I was "deeply involved" with my supposed "client", Orbitz. To his credit, I was able to rein in his hyperactive imagination with just one phone call.

Overall, I think he's an okay guy, but I do wonder about how his business stays successful, what with all his Wikipediaing all the time.

[Kelly Martin]

I have met Charles and James in real life, and think both of them would be fine. However, James is way too busy with other stuff to get my vote.

Yes, way too busy being an absent monarch on IRC and not running Wikimedia UK into the ground. He's a power seeker. Wikipedia should cut him loose and let him dedicate his time to seeking the level of his incompetency within Her Majesty's Government.

[KamrynMatika]

I do wonder about how his business stays successful, what with all his Wikipediaing all the time.

Did you just answer your own question there? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif)

[Vicky]

This is interesting. Can you share a link?

So you know absolutely nothing about the history of Poetlister and her blocks?

The defeat of WJBscribe should be priority number one to anyone who'd like to see a clean Wikipedia.

I'm surprised and pleased to see you say that; I thought you agreed with him on a few things. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)

There is a huge difference between the interests (Pokemon, hogtie, Harry Potter, etc.) and outward "I'm here to be me, not to conform to any boring standards of Western civilization" attitudes that pervade Wikipedia, and the traditional professional interests (13th century philosophy, the Congress of Vienna, quasars, General Cable Corporation, etc.), meticulousness, and conformist attitudes that would pervade any PUBLISHED general encyclopedia.

What's wrong with hogties? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif)

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[Rootology]

James F., Morven and Thebainer will certainly not be missed for even a millisecond.

I nominate Morven's wife Alana Brown to take his place on ArbCom:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/morven/sets/371552/

Can we please not have random nasty pot shots at completely uninvolved and unrelated people?

It does at least speak to the notion of "Could you imagine an Encyclopedia Britannica editor taking someone sporting this level of personal character to the company holiday dinner?"

No, it really doesn't...

It's just mean busting on people that don't look like the fake middle-America Abercrombie & Fitch-look that society seems to hold to be true for this country. Who cares what people look like? Society as a whole absolutely is NOT defined by the mores and values of white middle America and thankfully never ever will be.





Can Mods please aggressively police this thread by splitting off stuff whenever it gets into pointless sniping about people's appearances of all things, and the inevitable "Free Poetlister" history lessons (sorry, Taxwoman)

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[JoseClutch]

Ryan Postlethwaite will be running, I believe.

Particularly after his RFB failed, Ryan has been getting more involved in the Mediation Committee, ramped up his attempts to be involved in making community proposals (such as the latest Betacommand one), and has been advocating various changes to how candidates are selected on the 2008 elections discussion page.

Yeah, Postlethwaite will be running. It is impossible to believe otherwise. If there were a public vote on his checkuser application where he got slaughtered he might not, but it is private so he will not know (and if he is approved, then definitely).

I am pretty sure MBisanz will too, he has been pretty clearly powermongering.

I am not sure who else. Kmweber, probably, although Kurt can be a realist, so maybe not.

I would vote for Jehochman. Absolutely. He is not, as far as I can tell, anyone's bitch. But I would probably vote for Durova, so my opinion may not be reflective of anything.

[Ryan Postlethwaite]

Ryan Postlethwaite will be running, I believe.

Particularly after his RFB failed, Ryan has been getting more involved in the Mediation Committee, ramped up his attempts to be involved in making community proposals (such as the latest Betacommand one), and has been advocating various changes to how candidates are selected on the 2008 elections discussion page.

Actually Neil, I'm not even considering running. I don't think I'd be that good at it, and I don't think I'd be able to give it the time it requires. I haven't stepped up my participation in MedCom - I've been active in it since I joined last September.

[Neil]

Ryan Postlethwaite will be running, I believe.

Particularly after his RFB failed, Ryan has been getting more involved in the Mediation Committee, ramped up his attempts to be involved in making community proposals (such as the latest Betacommand one), and has been advocating various changes to how candidates are selected on the 2008 elections discussion page.

Actually Neil, I'm not even considering running. I don't think I'd be that good at it, and I don't think I'd be able to give it the time it requires. I haven't stepped up my participation in MedCom - I've been active in it since I joined last September.

Yes, that's what I said. More involved in MedCom. I thought you were a cert to run. That's too bad.

[JoseClutch]

Ryan Postlethwaite will be running, I believe.

Particularly after his RFB failed, Ryan has been getting more involved in the Mediation Committee, ramped up his attempts to be involved in making community proposals (such as the latest Betacommand one), and has been advocating various changes to how candidates are selected on the 2008 elections discussion page.

Actually Neil, I'm not even considering running. I don't think I'd be that good at it, and I don't think I'd be able to give it the time it requires. I haven't stepped up my participation in MedCom - I've been active in it since I joined last September.

Yes, that's what I said. More involved in MedCom. I thought you were a cert to run. That's too bad.

I also find this particularly surprising. Ryan's actions have all suggested he would do such a thing.

[Pumpkin Muffins]

Official link: Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2008

List or arbiters whose terms expire:
1. Blnguyen
2. Charles Matthews
3. James F.
4. Morven
5. Thebainer

Expiring arbiters who have said they will not seek re-election:
(Please reply with others who have said as much, I'll update this top level post)
1. Morven (here)

Expiring arbiters who have previously won re-election:
(Please reply with others who have pulled this off, I'll update this top level post)
1. ?

Number of open seats (normal): 5, plus one extra open one since Paul August retired, for 6 total. Paul's spot is only good to December 2009, when he would have expired anyway. The others are currently set to be the normal 3 years.

I heard a rumor that Bishzilla is running.

[wikiwhistle]

There is a huge difference between the interests (Pokemon, hogtie, Harry Potter, etc.) and outward "I'm here to be me, not to conform to any boring standards of Western civilization" attitudes that pervade Wikipedia, and the traditional professional interests (13th century philosophy, the Congress of Vienna, quasars, General Cable Corporation, etc.), meticulousness, and conformist attitudes that would pervade any PUBLISHED general encyclopedia.

I'm just sayin'...

(IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wink.gif)

From what I know of professors etc these days, they're very liberal and get upto all sorts in their spare time. They might not always flaunt it, but nowadays I doubt anyone's sexual or subcultural proclivities would get them kicked out of academia, unless they're illegal.

And some of my knowledge is of a Classics department (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/biggrin.gif)

[Rootology]

Official link: Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2008

List or arbiters whose terms expire:
1. Blnguyen
2. Charles Matthews
3. James F.
4. Morven
5. Thebainer

Expiring arbiters who have said they will not seek re-election:
(Please reply with others who have said as much, I'll update this top level post)
1. Morven (here)

Expiring arbiters who have previously won re-election:
(Please reply with others who have pulled this off, I'll update this top level post)
1. ?

Number of open seats (normal): 5, plus one extra open one since Paul August retired, for 6 total. Paul's spot is only good to December 2009, when he would have expired anyway. The others are currently set to be the normal 3 years.

I heard a rumor that Bishzilla is running.

Bish in any format of grammar has infinitely more clue than half the Arbitration Committee and it's founder COMBINED. Sadly, since she's also prone to speaking her mind clearly, I'm sure some/most useless trolls will see her as 1) an uppity woman; 2) an uppity editor; 3) clearly incompatible with being an Arb because she's willing to do the right things.

I'd vote for her in a heartbeat.

[wikiwhistle]

What do people think of Jehochman as an arb?

I don't know him that well but he comes from some sort of legal background, and contributes under his real name.

He doesn't sound very legally-oriented to me at all.

I was just going on what he mentioned in passing on his talk page to someone.

diff
"Observers will draw their own conclusions. (Note: I did attend law school, (wikilink:Columbia_Law_School) and am familiar with the concepts."

[Pumpkin Muffins]

Bish in any format of grammar has infinitely more clue than half the Arbitration Committee and it's founder COMBINED. Sadly, since she's also prone to speaking her mind clearly, I'm sure some/most useless trolls will see her as 1) an uppity woman; 2) an uppity editor; 3) clearly incompatible with being an Arb because she's willing to do the right things.

I'd vote for her in a heartbeat.

Looking forward to her candidates statement.