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I make only one request: that regular Wikipedians who are looking over my shoulder, as well as Wikipedia critics from Wikipedia Review and elsewhere, bear in mind that this is a general-interest audience. Please don't hijack the comment threads with our own internal disputes and debates. No one here wants to read who is a sockpuppet of whom or whether so-and-so's block was fair or not. We have ANI and Wikipedia Review to hash those things out later.
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NYB, when are you going to put your name on your user page? Cool_Hand_Luke should do it too.
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QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Tue 19th May 2009, 9:17pm) *

NYB, when are you going to put your name on your user page? Cool_Hand_Luke should do it too.

I actually had planned to do it this week, as I mentioned in this thread last week. I might well have done it when I returned to editing last summer, but I didn't particularly appreciate the feeling of being coerced into it.
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QUOTE(Newyorkbrad @ Tue 19th May 2009, 8:09pm) *

I actually had planned to do it this week, as I mentioned in this thread last week. I might well have done it when I returned to editing last summer, but I didn't particularly appreciate the feeling of being coerced into it.

Maybe the move would be easier if the User pages has a "noindex" just like the User_talk pages do. I think there is more work to be done on the "noindex" front. It's true that your user page would most likely be in the top ten results in a search for your real name, because your real name is unusual and Google is infatuated with everything from Wikipedia.

That's all the more reason to level the field by adopting a "noindex" policy for all User pages. It might even take the wind out of some of those pesky teenage editors if they were unable to get a hormone kick from their Google juice.
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QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Wed 20th May 2009, 1:45am) *

QUOTE(Newyorkbrad @ Tue 19th May 2009, 8:09pm) *

I actually had planned to do it this week, as I mentioned in this thread last week. I might well have done it when I returned to editing last summer, but I didn't particularly appreciate the feeling of being coerced into it.

Maybe the move would be easier if the User pages has a "noindex" just like the User_talk pages do. I think there is more work to be done on the "noindex" front. It's true that your user page would most likely be in the top ten results in a search for your real name, because your real name is unusual and Google is infatuated with everything from Wikipedia.

That's all the more reason to level the field by adopting a "noindex" policy for all User pages. It might even take the wind out of some of those pesky teenage editors if they were unable to get a hormone kick from their Google juice.

Strikes me that the default for all namespaces ought to be noindex, and then evaluate namespace by namespace whether to be non default, (so article would be indexed) and then evaluate page by page (where necessary) whether to be non default from the non default (so that the article called "Daniel Brandt is a big weenie" is noindex even though articles generally are...)

I could swear there was a proposal to actually do that at some point.

But specifically, I think user ought to be noindex just like user talk.
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QUOTE(Random832 @ Sun 24th May 2009, 7:12pm) *

QUOTE(Daniel Brandt @ Sun 24th May 2009, 4:49am) *
Same for I believe in equal treatment for all of Jimbo's arbcom lackeys.


except when you don't.

Since the day Hivemind opened, Brandt has been consistently uneven in the treatment of listing. He has habitually offered to remove people for kissing his ring in various ways. I can't imagine why he thinks it helps his cause. I would have voted to delete his articles without coercion (as indeed I did). I think his critique would be stronger without it; either list everyone or define fixed criteria for removal.

I won't cooperate with anything else.

QUOTE(Lar @ Thu 21st May 2009, 4:45pm) *

I could swear there was a proposal to actually do that at some point.
But specifically, I think user ought to be noindex just like user talk.

MBisanz is the guru in this subject. He's made several proposals to improve things. He posted links back in February.

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QUOTE(IQ of One @ Sun 24th May 2009, 10:43pm) *

I won't cooperate with anything else.


And yet you capitulate to coercion, double standards, favoritism, hypocrisy, and inconsistency on a massive scale every day when it comes to Wikipedia.

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