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post Sat 28th April 2012, 9:40pm
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Does anyone still care about wikis?

Everyone knows if they want their stuff to appear on the internet it's only a button-push away.

So why bother with wiki technology which is like 10 years old and involves so much hassle like code and arguing with nerds and pretending to know stuff?

Are any public wikis besides Wikipedia actually thriving?

All I see these days is wikis dying, getting absorbed into that craphole Wikia, or stagnating like Citizendium, Conservapedia, etc.
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The Homestar Runner Wiki is one of the best. The cartoon site has been on hiatus, so there is some stagnation with the wiki.

http://www.hrwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page

You really have to dig around to find the exceptionally good specialist wikis. The wiki's topic has to be broad enough for there to be continuous growth and a community with common goals and mutual respect. What hurts some of these wikis is the lack of money to keep them up. You need regular fund-raisers or wealthy patrons.

I have some Wikia sites bookmarked, though there is much to be desired. The best Wikia sites, like Wookieepedia, were stand-alone wikis before being brought into the Wikia fold.
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I have some Wikia sites bookmarked, though there is much to be desired. The best Wikia sites, like Wookieepedia, were stand-alone wikis before being brought into the Wikia fold.


Some of the best wikis (e.g. tfwiki.net) have left Wikia.
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Comparison of wiki farms (T-H-L-K-D)
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I find that a lot of FOSS developers have been using various Wikis for support sites and they must be common as my usual webhost has Wiki software on a 1-click install.
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Ward Cunningham, creator of the original concept of Wiki, has a new idea for a "federated wiki":
http://semanticweb.com/ward-cunninghams-sm...d-future_b27267
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QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Sat 28th April 2012, 11:58pm) *

Some of the best wikis (e.g. tfwiki.net) have left Wikia.

Not to mention Spanking Art Wiki! laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Detective @ Mon 30th April 2012, 7:35am) *

QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Sat 28th April 2012, 11:58pm) *

Some of the best wikis (e.g. tfwiki.net) have left Wikia.

Not to mention Spanking Art Wiki! laugh.gif


Correction: Some of the best wikis (e.g. tfwiki.net) have decided to leave Wikia.

The Spanking Art Wiki wasn't given a choice. If it weren't for "external pressure groups", Wikia would probably still be hosting them.

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QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Mon 30th April 2012, 7:11pm) *

QUOTE(Detective @ Mon 30th April 2012, 7:35am) *

QUOTE(Michaeldsuarez @ Sat 28th April 2012, 11:58pm) *

Some of the best wikis (e.g. tfwiki.net) have left Wikia.

Not to mention Spanking Art Wiki! laugh.gif


Correction: Some of the best wikis (e.g. tfwiki.net) have decided to leave Wikia.

The Spanking Art Wiki wasn't given a choice. If it weren't for "external pressure groups", Wikia would probably still be hosting them.

Sigh. That was precisely my point. That's why I put in the LOL icon. Do I really need to put in extensive footnotes every time I make a joke here?
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I almost forgot the Elder Scrolls wiki!

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Main_Page
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I'm thinking the answer is yes, wikis are even lamer than they were five years ago.
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QUOTE(Text @ Sun 29th April 2012, 12:02pm) *

Ward Cunningham, creator of the original concept of Wiki, has a new idea for a "federated wiki":
http://semanticweb.com/ward-cunninghams-sm...d-future_b27267

The idea has been around a while.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:TomLor...stributed_wikis
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Di..._infrastracture
http://wikimedia.7.n6.nabble.com/Multi-ser...i-td683047.html
http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&sh...ndpost&p=240083
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Wikis remain a useful way to permit non-technical users to publish content in a collaborative manner that provides capabilities for hierarchical organization and categorization, easy hyperlinking to related content in-text.

One of my current projects is developing a Mediawiki wiki for developers of constructed worlds to present their worlds. Each world is given its own namespace by the site administration, and the creator of each world is given admin rights over that namespace as well as the privileges necessary to grant or revoke admin rights over the same namespace to whomever he or she wishes.

Similarly, another project I've considered is developing a constructed world where, instead of presenting the story of the world directly, the worldbuilders create and release "primary sources," and those interested then evaluate those sources critically in light of already-discovered sources to build the history of the world themselves. A wiki is a great tool for something like this.
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QUOTE(Kurt M. Weber @ Fri 8th June 2012, 9:05am) *

Wikis remain a useful way to permit non-technical users to publish content in a collaborative manner that provides capabilities for hierarchical organization and categorization, easy hyperlinking to related content in-text.

One of my current projects is developing a Mediawiki wiki for developers of constructed worlds to present their worlds. Each world is given its own namespace by the site administration, and the creator of each world is given admin rights over that namespace as well as the privileges necessary to grant or revoke admin rights over the same namespace to whomever he or she wishes.

Similarly, another project I've considered is developing a constructed world where, instead of presenting the story of the world directly, the worldbuilders create and release "primary sources," and those interested then evaluate those sources critically in light of already-discovered sources to build the history of the world themselves. A wiki is a great tool for something like this.


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QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 8th June 2012, 5:54pm) *

QUOTE(Kurt M. Weber @ Fri 8th June 2012, 9:05am) *

Wikis remain a useful way to permit non-technical users to publish content in a collaborative manner that provides capabilities for hierarchical organization and categorization, easy hyperlinking to related content in-text.

One of my current projects is developing a Mediawiki wiki for developers of constructed worlds to present their worlds. Each world is given its own namespace by the site administration, and the creator of each world is given admin rights over that namespace as well as the privileges necessary to grant or revoke admin rights over the same namespace to whomever he or she wishes.

Similarly, another project I've considered is developing a constructed world where, instead of presenting the story of the world directly, the worldbuilders create and release "primary sources," and those interested then evaluate those sources critically in light of already-discovered sources to build the history of the world themselves. A wiki is a great tool for something like this.


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Indeed.

Is God still on your side, Magister?
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QUOTE(Kurt M. Weber @ Fri 8th June 2012, 9:12pm) *

QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 8th June 2012, 5:54pm) *

QUOTE(Kurt M. Weber @ Fri 8th June 2012, 9:05am) *

Wikis remain a useful way to permit non-technical users to publish content in a collaborative manner that provides capabilities for hierarchical organization and categorization, easy hyperlinking to related content in-text.

One of my current projects is developing a Mediawiki wiki for developers of constructed worlds to present their worlds. Each world is given its own namespace by the site administration, and the creator of each world is given admin rights over that namespace as well as the privileges necessary to grant or revoke admin rights over the same namespace to whomever he or she wishes.

Similarly, another project I've considered is developing a constructed world where, instead of presenting the story of the world directly, the worldbuilders create and release "primary sources," and those interested then evaluate those sources critically in light of already-discovered sources to build the history of the world themselves. A wiki is a great tool for something like this.


Dweeb.


Indeed.

Is God still on your side, Magister?


Is the rotting corpse of Ayn Rand on yours?
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Is the rotting corpse of Ayn Rand on yours?

It's presumably finished rotting by now!

One is reminded what W. S. Gilbert replied when a lady asked him if Bach was still composing. "No, madam, he is now decomposing."
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QUOTE(Jay @ Sat 9th June 2012, 6:21am) *

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Is the rotting corpse of Ayn Rand on yours?

It's presumably finished rotting by now!

One is reminded what W. S. Gilbert replied when a lady asked him if Bach was still composing. "No, madam, he is now decomposing."


Rand's writing would only be improved by decomposition.
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QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Sat 9th June 2012, 3:38am) *

QUOTE(Kurt M. Weber @ Fri 8th June 2012, 9:12pm) *

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QUOTE(Kurt M. Weber @ Fri 8th June 2012, 9:05am) *

Wikis remain a useful way to permit non-technical users to publish content in a collaborative manner that provides capabilities for hierarchical organization and categorization, easy hyperlinking to related content in-text.

One of my current projects is developing a Mediawiki wiki for developers of constructed worlds to present their worlds. Each world is given its own namespace by the site administration, and the creator of each world is given admin rights over that namespace as well as the privileges necessary to grant or revoke admin rights over the same namespace to whomever he or she wishes.

Similarly, another project I've considered is developing a constructed world where, instead of presenting the story of the world directly, the worldbuilders create and release "primary sources," and those interested then evaluate those sources critically in light of already-discovered sources to build the history of the world themselves. A wiki is a great tool for something like this.


Dweeb.


Indeed.

Is God still on your side, Magister?


Is the rotting corpse of Ayn Rand on yours?


Not so much. I had an epiphany after the massacres at Oakland and UC Davis.
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QUOTE(Kurt M. Weber @ Sat 9th June 2012, 5:06pm) *

QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Sat 9th June 2012, 3:38am) *

QUOTE(Kurt M. Weber @ Fri 8th June 2012, 9:12pm) *

QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 8th June 2012, 5:54pm) *

QUOTE(Kurt M. Weber @ Fri 8th June 2012, 9:05am) *

Wikis remain a useful way to permit non-technical users to publish content in a collaborative manner that provides capabilities for hierarchical organization and categorization, easy hyperlinking to related content in-text.

One of my current projects is developing a Mediawiki wiki for developers of constructed worlds to present their worlds. Each world is given its own namespace by the site administration, and the creator of each world is given admin rights over that namespace as well as the privileges necessary to grant or revoke admin rights over the same namespace to whomever he or she wishes.

Similarly, another project I've considered is developing a constructed world where, instead of presenting the story of the world directly, the worldbuilders create and release "primary sources," and those interested then evaluate those sources critically in light of already-discovered sources to build the history of the world themselves. A wiki is a great tool for something like this.


Dweeb.


Indeed.

Is God still on your side, Magister?


Is the rotting corpse of Ayn Rand on yours?


Not so much. I had an epiphany after the massacres at Oakland and UC Davis.


I have no idea what you're talking about. Presumably some sort of Randoid infighting that nobody cares about. Given Wikipedian usage "massacres" probably refers to someone saying something unpleasant. Tlatelolco Massacare, yes. But Oakland and UC Davis? Unless you mean the Goh shootings? That seems like a piece of individual madness that resulted in a real tragedy but I'm not following why this would result in an epiphany.


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