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I will use this thread to collect previous posts and relevant resources on Fascism and its kindred species of Polis State Kraft.

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Oh, sweet Jesus.

Wikipedia is a project. It is not the government. Aside from the matter of individual articles defaming people (something that any media that carries information on people has the potential to do), everyone is free to avoid the damn thing.

By way of illustration, let's consider a fascistic organization that most of us are familiar with: the corporation. Corporations are extremely fascistic. If you belong to (i.e., are an employee of) a corporation, you have (at least under US law) essentially zero rights with regard to the corporation. About the only right you have is not to be discriminated against on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, national origin, disability, or age. Beyond that, if the control apparatus of the corporation does not find that you contribute to its mission, you're out.

And shouldn't Wikipedia be this way? If we believed that Wikipedia's control apparatus accurately promoted the quality of the encyclopedia (it doesn't, but play along with me for a moment ...), then should it have any qualms about not being "fair" to particular editors whom it finds not to contribute?

This is not to say that Wikipedia's workings should not be subject to law. Wikipedia cannot kill someone for the good of the project. But it can, and it should be able to, deny all access to someone, just as any private corporation can fire an employee and bar him from its property.
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QUOTE(Saltimbanco @ Mon 28th January 2008, 1:02am) *
This is not to say that Wikipedia's workings should not be subject to law. Wikipedia cannot kill someone for the good of the project. But it can, and it should be able to, deny all access to someone, just as any private corporation can fire an employee and bar him from its property.


If denying access was all they did to people, it wouldn't be a problem.

However, they have threatened physical violence. They have defamed
people, on top of Google. They have dragged people's names through
the dirt on top of Google and prohibited them from responding. They
have violated people's privacy.

Additionally, I've never heard of anyone getting fired after they have
already quit. WP bans people all the time after they have already left.
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