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post Thu 24th June 2010, 2:13pm
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I wonder if Nihonjoe realizes that what he did is an abuse of Bureaucratic ops and that he can now have them removed by ArbCom or the community through a similar request. That would be interesting, as I don't really remember much from Nihonjoe that has ever made me think that he would be trustworthy with adminship let alone something else.
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post Thu 24th June 2010, 5:12pm
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QUOTE(Ottava @ Thu 24th June 2010, 9:13am) *
I wonder if Nihonjoe realizes that what he did is an abuse of Bureaucratic ops and that he can now have them removed by ArbCom or the community through a similar request.

I doubt it, personally. Word on the street is that he's suffering from advanced Alzheimer's Disease and doesn't even know his own address, or the names of any of his 573 children, all by different women. Moreover, he's been forced to live under a park bench, nearly starving to death, because he can't remember the PIN for his ATM card in order to get access to his checking account - which is rumored to contain over $47 million due to his having one the Mega Millions Lottery just over a year ago. As a result, his internet access has been spotty, since he's been having to lug his EeePC netbook into various coffee shops and shopping mall food courts in order to connect. Luckily, none of this has interfered with his administrator/bureaucrat duties on Wikipedia - if anything, these factors have actually enhanced his ability to implement administrative actions that are consistent with Wikipedia policy and procedure, as evidenced by his apparent support of User:Herostratus.

Despite his having been treated somewhat unfairly (IMO) here and elsewhere for his attempts to take a supposedly "constructive" approach to the WP pedophile problem, I still believe Herostratus should not be an admin, even on a site like Wikipedia.

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That would be interesting, as I don't really remember much from Nihonjoe that has ever made me think that he would be trustworthy with adminship let alone something else.

Ah, but do you remember rock 'n' roll radio? hmmm.gif
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post Thu 24th June 2010, 5:15pm
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QUOTE(Somey @ Thu 24th June 2010, 1:12pm) *

Ah, but do you remember rock 'n' roll radio? hmmm.gif


Heck, I remember rock 'n' roll rodeo boing.gif

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post Thu 24th June 2010, 8:36pm
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QUOTE(Ottava @ Thu 24th June 2010, 3:13pm) *

I wonder if Nihonjoe realizes that what he did is an abuse of Bureaucratic ops and that he can now have them removed by ArbCom or the community through a similar request. That would be interesting, as I don't really remember much from Nihonjoe that has ever made me think that he would be trustworthy with adminship let alone something else.

Nihonjoe is no fool; he knew exactly what he was doing. It seems to me a perfect example of when you should use WP:IAR. It was a breach of the rules with the aim of improving the project. We should be pleased that there is a bureaucrat with the intelligence and bravery to use WP:IAR so effectively.
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post Thu 24th June 2010, 8:41pm
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QUOTE(ulsterman @ Thu 24th June 2010, 4:36pm) *

QUOTE(Ottava @ Thu 24th June 2010, 3:13pm) *

I wonder if Nihonjoe realizes that what he did is an abuse of Bureaucratic ops and that he can now have them removed by ArbCom or the community through a similar request. That would be interesting, as I don't really remember much from Nihonjoe that has ever made me think that he would be trustworthy with adminship let alone something else.


Nihonjoe is no fool; he knew exactly what he was doing. It seems to me a perfect example of when you should use WP:IAR. It was a breach of the rules with the aim of improving the project. We should be pleased that there is a bureaucrat with the intelligence and bravery to use WP:IAR so effectively.


VidequeOr, justifying the ways of Nihonjoe to man.

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post Thu 24th June 2010, 8:52pm
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QUOTE(ulsterman @ Fri 25th June 2010, 6:36am) *

QUOTE(Ottava @ Thu 24th June 2010, 3:13pm) *

I wonder if Nihonjoe realizes that what he did is an abuse of Bureaucratic ops and that he can now have them removed by ArbCom or the community through a similar request. That would be interesting, as I don't really remember much from Nihonjoe that has ever made me think that he would be trustworthy with adminship let alone something else.

Nihonjoe is no fool; he knew exactly what he was doing. It seems to me a perfect example of when you should use WP:IAR. It was a breach of the rules with the aim of improving the project. We should be pleased that there is a bureaucrat with the intelligence and bravery to use WP:IAR so effectively.


You really have fallen for the whole Wikipedia thing haven't you? I think there is a 12 step program that could make you normal again.
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post Thu 24th June 2010, 9:03pm
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QUOTE(ulsterman @ Thu 24th June 2010, 4:36pm) *

Nihonjoe is no fool


He is so! smile.gif

What do you say we set up a poll here...how many people think Nihonjoe is a fool and how many people think he isn't? That should be interesting. evilgrin.gif
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post Thu 24th June 2010, 9:08pm
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QUOTE(ulsterman @ Thu 24th June 2010, 4:36pm) *

QUOTE(Ottava @ Thu 24th June 2010, 3:13pm) *

I wonder if Nihonjoe realizes that what he did is an abuse of Bureaucratic ops and that he can now have them removed by ArbCom or the community through a similar request. That would be interesting, as I don't really remember much from Nihonjoe that has ever made me think that he would be trustworthy with adminship let alone something else.

Nihonjoe is no fool; he knew exactly what he was doing. It seems to me a perfect example of when you should use WP:IAR. It was a breach of the rules with the aim of improving the project. We should be pleased that there is a bureaucrat with the intelligence and bravery to use WP:IAR so effectively.


From WP:RFA: "Any user may nominate another user with an account."

It does not say "another user without administrator status already".

RfA can be held for those who have adminship already. Everyone who has ever opened up that page can clearly read that. Nihonjoe is a liar and obviously blind.
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QUOTE(Kevin @ Thu 24th June 2010, 4:52pm) *

You really have fallen for the whole Wikipedia thing haven't you? I think there is a 12 step program that could make you normal again.


Yes, there is … 12 steps down an 11 step plank …

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post Thu 24th June 2010, 9:18pm
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QUOTE(Jon Awbrey @ Thu 24th June 2010, 1:15pm) *

QUOTE(Somey @ Thu 24th June 2010, 1:12pm) *

Ah, but do you remember rock 'n' roll radio? hmmm.gif


Heck, I remember rock 'n' roll rodeo boing.gif

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Is it true that Risker was a groupie for John Philip Sousa? ermm.gif

QUOTE(Ottava @ Thu 24th June 2010, 5:08pm) *
Nihonjoe is a liar and obviously blind.


Why stop there? I can share some fat jokes, if you really want to go the full mile. smile.gif
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post Thu 24th June 2010, 10:33pm
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Jimbo has proclaimed his latest "philosophical thoughts". I'm reminded of Jack Handy.* His first axiom is that "[t]here is broad support for the idea that admins need not keep the same high level of popularity that was necessary to originally become an admin." It's a little like putting the cart before the horse, then shooting the horse while the cart rolls back over the carcass, and then pondering where to go from there. He finishes with this moving endorsement:
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It is not clear to me that we can write a policy that gains broad consensus. But if we can, I support the idea in principle.

Now THAT is leadership.

*I think it's sad that a family can be torn apart by something as simple as a pack of wild dogs.
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post Fri 25th June 2010, 1:20am
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It's a little like putting the cart before the horse, then shooting the horse while the cart rolls back over the carcass, and then pondering where to go from there.


Uh, there are other animals that you can abuse. Why not pick on the tapir? hrmph.gif
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post Fri 25th June 2010, 1:34am
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Thu 24th June 2010, 6:20pm) *

QUOTE(Subtle Bee @ Thu 24th June 2010, 6:33pm) *
It's a little like putting the cart before the horse, then shooting the horse while the cart rolls back over the carcass, and then pondering where to go from there.


Uh, there are other animals that you can abuse. Why not pick on the tapir? hrmph.gif

1. It makes a poor metaphor - what do you put in front of a tapir? Its snout? More tapirs?
2. Tapirs already have it pretty hard.
3. Inasmuch as you're a horse, I'm a bee. Sometimes I sting.

It's beyond my control.

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post Fri 25th June 2010, 2:05am
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QUOTE(Subtle Bee @ Thu 24th June 2010, 6:34pm) *

QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Thu 24th June 2010, 6:20pm) *

QUOTE(Subtle Bee @ Thu 24th June 2010, 6:33pm) *
It's a little like putting the cart before the horse, then shooting the horse while the cart rolls back over the carcass, and then pondering where to go from there.


Uh, there are other animals that you can abuse. Why not pick on the tapir? hrmph.gif

1. It makes a poor metaphor - what do you put in front of a tapir? Its snout? More tapirs?
2. Tapirs already have it pretty hard.
3. Inasmuch as you're a horse, I'm a bee. Sometimes I sting.

It's beyond my control.

Hey, tapirs sometimes make great metaphors. Even for abuse. What you put in front of them is (obviously) an alien-controlled hominid with a bone to pick.

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current vote tally: 40/29/12

it was even at the beginning, took a big swing for the negative, and has slowly swung in his favor, though there are still 5 days to go if it stays open for the whole 7 days.
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Thu 24th June 2010, 7:05pm) *

QUOTE(Subtle Bee @ Thu 24th June 2010, 6:34pm) *

QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Thu 24th June 2010, 6:20pm) *

Uh, there are other animals that you can abuse. Why not pick on the tapir? hrmph.gif

1. It makes a poor metaphor - what do you put in front of a tapir? Its snout? More tapirs?
2. Tapirs already have it pretty hard.
3. Inasmuch as you're a horse, I'm a bee. Sometimes I sting.

It's beyond my control.

Hey, tapirs sometimes make great metaphors. Even for abuse. What you put in front of them is (obviously) an alien-controlled hominid with a bone to pick.

Yeah well, use it in a sentence (ok, another one). I swear, it's like pearls before swine (see what I did there?). Anyway, that still leaves 2, 3, and Malkovich.

Besides, tapirs are essentially short, fat, big-nosed horses, so naturally our elitist equine would encourage me to pick on them. But I'll be damned if I'll succumb to the sort of creeping ottavism that expects to dictate my editorial decisions.
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This thread has begun to tapir into stupidity.
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QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Thu 24th June 2010, 7:54pm) *

This thread has begun to tapir into stupidity.

But it cannot die, until Herostratus' fate is decided. And hair and fingernails grow for 48 hours after death, but phone calls tapir off.* tongue.gif

















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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Fri 25th June 2010, 3:10am) *

But it cannot die, until Herostratus' fate is decided. And hair and fingernails grow for 48 hours after death, but phone calls tapir off.* tongue.gif

Actually the skin just shrinks.
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QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Thu 24th June 2010, 8:10pm) *

QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Thu 24th June 2010, 7:54pm) *

This thread has begun to tapir into stupidity.

But it cannot die, until Herostratus' fate is decided. And hair and fingernails grow for 48 hours after death, but phone calls tapir off.* tongue.gif

Whatever, I offered a dash of actual content, I don't get to pick what we talk about (see creeping ottavism). But quite by accident, I found this gem that perfectly encapsulates the essence of this thread, so while we're all waiting for shoes to drop we can enjoy it together!

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