Durova on Youtube: Obey us, lowly peons, Finally. The 15 minutes she's committed mayhem to achieve Options

This is all about looking for a full time gig as a rock star/WP big exec. !!!

What a riot!

This is all about looking for a full time gig as a rock star/WP big exec. !!!

What a riot!

Of course it is. (Though she's not the greatest public speaker, let's face it). That she wants to hitch her little red wagon to Wikipedia profesionally has been evident from the get-go. I don't begrudge her that (after all, she didn't do so well in film school, it would seem). What I find appalling is how she treats people online, the worst cases of which wind up with some poor sap being libeled and defamed on a highly ranked website. And the pathology of her writing articles about "how businesses can lose their good name online" (Article: "The Dark Side) and go on SEO websites giving advice for businesses as to how to edit on Wikipedia "ethically" (which means following their rules) is heinous. And weird.

She wants to be a Wikipedia professional? Great. It's her personal problems that bleed out into her abuse of power, that cause a problem. If she was a decent human being, i.e. didn't abuse and badmouth people, most of them innocent, and who had done nothing to her (Greg Kohs is a great example) then her working towards gaining some job at the WMF would have been great.

I would say she is too controversial to hire, but we are talking about Jimbo, the man who hired Essjay after the New Yorker scandal. That's probably what Durova counts on. I suspect she'll wind up working for Wikia soon.

This post has been edited by Disillusioned Lackey: Mon 5th November 2007, 6:26pm

I really like Essjay, he was a really sweet guy. WP seemed nicer when he
was around, perhaps things wouldn't be so messed up now if he were still
there.

I really like Essjay, he was a really sweet guy. WP seemed nicer when he
was around, perhaps things wouldn't be so messed up now if he were still
there.

Oh, I guess he never blocked you, huh? Not everyone has such fond memories.

I really like Essjay, he was a really sweet guy. WP seemed nicer when he
was around, perhaps things wouldn't be so messed up now if he were still
there.

Oh, I guess he never blocked you, huh? Not everyone has such fond memories.

AB thought that all that lyin' about being a catholic badass so everyone else would bow to the vicar on editing disputes was just A-OK. But then AB is not a model of consistency.

it just all fits into the Wikipedia as "High School Opera" atmosphere of the 15 year olds and the 45 going on 15 year olds running WP. High School Musicals are for the Disney Cheerleader Crowd, dramatic operas are what the 130+ IQ high school crowd. For those not living in the Same Way in Florida as Jimbo, "High School Musical" is America's Cultural Backlash Answer to Britney Spears' Sudden Loss of Abdominal Hair While Exiting Party Cars. Kinda of Like "Leave it To Beaver" was to Elvis the Pelvis. Beaver allusion intended.

"Nice Beaver." - Lt. Frank Drebin
"Thanks, I just had it stuffed." - Priscilla Presley
- Naked Gun

This post has been edited by Piperdown: Tue 6th November 2007, 1:40am

I really like Essjay, he was a really sweet guy. WP seemed nicer when he was around, perhaps things wouldn't be so messed up now if he were still there.

I doubt that... Remember, Essjay was the person who started the whole mess that later became BADSITES, right here. That action served as the precedent for all that was to follow, and he got away with it because everyone had so much respect for his phony academic standing and other "qualifications." Even after that, we tried to give him a way to save face when he "outed" himself, but instead, he just kept digging himself in deeper with damnable lies about "stalking" and "harassment," as if anyone with a brain still believes that shit.

He deserved a lot worse than what he got, and on that you can depend!

As for Durova, well... I guess I don't have anything more to say about her that hasn't already been said, except that I'm still curious as to what that thing around her neck was in the Youtube video. It almost looks like some sort of gold lamé bow-tie... maybe there's a hidden microphone in there? Wearing a wire can get uncomfortable after a while.

I'm still curious as to what that thing around her neck was in the Youtube video. It almost looks like some sort of gold lamé bow-tie... maybe there's a hidden microphone in there? Wearing a wire can get uncomfortable after a while.

I was wondering about that too. Maybe it on sale at JC Penney.

I dont think it is a wire. I think she got her 1988 version of the books "Dress for Success" and "Games Mother Never Taught You" out of the closet, and this item was part of the result.

I already said my opinion about her being a bluestocking, so nuff said.

Lise is a bluestocking. Bluestockings make *solid efforts* to look homely and they tend to suspect (and subvert) women who dare to be intelligent and attractive simulaneously. It's a thing.

This post has been edited by Disillusioned Lackey: Tue 6th November 2007, 9:37am

AB thought that all that lyin' about being a catholic badass so everyone else would bow to the vicar on editing disputes was just A-OK. But then AB is not a model of consistency.

Well, firstly, the 'so everyone else would...' happened a long time ago. Let the
past die. Secondly, in the grand scheme of things, I don't think it mattered that
much.

Thirdly, I really saw it as symptomatic of classist obsession with degrees.

Here's to all the brilliant people who do not have the money for getting degrees!

What exactly do you think I am being inconsistent about at the moment?

All she has to say about the community is that it "strips away" those it considers harmful elements? Why not talk about collaborative work, consensus, that kind of thing? I am aghast at the mentality that would lead one to think that the most important thing to say about the Wikipedia community is that people are often excluded from it. I don't suppose there will be many Wikiconverts coming from this interview.

After re-watching the clip, I have to say, Durova gave the right answer here. From a professional point of view. It isnt a warm fuzzy one, but to reply to an SEO journalist, you dont want to talk about being chummy, and having a community (which is what Wikipedia is all about and is part of the lure and payoff for working for free) to a reporter for the business community.

The correct answer was "all community activities are encyclopedic-related" because that makes Wikipedia look professional and focused and not about: 1) Gossip 2) Childishness 3) Making friends, and everything else that a social networking site provides. This is the way it is supposed to be, in principle. In fact, as we all know, Wikipedia *is* a social networking site, and the lawless nature of the place, and the fact it is unprofessional is what 'freaks people out' as the reporter put it, as does the fact that the chumminess of the place has more weight than ethics or morals or even the rules of Wikipedia itself (not to mention the law, but don't get me started).

So for her to categorically deny that there was anything non-encyclopedic about the community was the A-OK, correct, Jimbo stamp-of-approval thing to say. She's a good parrot of the party line.

The part about "stripped away" was pychoanalytically-revealing. Because stripping away the undesirable is her schtick. She might well have said simply, "all community collaboration is encylopedic-related" (and blah blah blah about that for 2-3 minutes), and left it at that, but she had to talk about rejecting things. Interesting.

This post has been edited by Disillusioned Lackey: Tue 6th November 2007, 3:52pm

No need to make fun of her looks. But I was rather taken aback by her answer to a general question about the Wikipedia community: that certain elements of the community that "don't serve a visible function of helping to build an encyclopedia periodically get stripped away". All she has to say about the community is that it "strips away" those it considers harmful elements? Why not talk about collaborative work, consensus, that kind of thing? I am aghast at the mentality that would lead one to think that the most important thing to say about the Wikipedia community is that people are often excluded from it. I don't suppose there will be many Wikiconverts coming from this interview.

Not going to make fun of her, (I have other fish to fry... RYULONG THE RATSHITEATING WORM I HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN BOUT U) but respect is a two way street and the arrogance, smugness
is offensive as far as I'm concern, she's fair game to any and all comment, criticisms, cheap laughs and general parody, at her expense justified or not... she don't like the heat then drop away from the Wikilight. Lets not feel sorry for her...she has giving worst and abused many editors to feel to teary eyed about this loser.


Regarding statements she makes on how to handling a bio, she out and out lies as to a person having a bio and being treated with due respect...see Bryant's saga with the Mighty Virgin, But

In seeing the face of wikipeida though it's admins I'm left with the thought that Wikipeida must be shut down or diminished or... FORCE THOUGH RULE OF LAW to be accountable for it's miscreant and psychopathic Admins.

This post has been edited by Nathan: Tue 6th November 2007, 3:09pm

Can we please watch the language in non-Tarpitted posts, Joseph?

Can we please watch the language in non-Tarpitted posts, Joseph?

Asking Joseph to watch the language is like asking Jimbo to watch the two-faced backpedaling. It just doesn't work in a pro-active manner.

I gotta say, Joseph has his schtick down to such a science, it does make me laugh just about every time I read it. The line about the Murinae feces-consuming member of the Lumbricidae family was really priceless, right down to the urban spelling and heightened ALL CAPS anger.

Greg

NOTE: Someone should video-capture this interview. It will definitely be yanked soon. I dont have the capacity. Does anyone here?

Consider it done. I've got the file saved as type .AVI, thanks to a free, open source software called RenderSoft CamStudio. It comes out a little grainy, but since we're not looking at a JzG's Girls model, I don't think that's going to matter too much. The thing is 80 MB -- there's probably some way to compress it, but I'm very new to CamStudio.

Greg

MAYHAM !!!

Six letters that says it all …

Jonny

Link Mr. Kohs? If so, I can edit my earlier post to it (or at least make a mirror link, in the event the other one is yanked). ps: Thanks, and nice work.

Profanity: Personally, I dont care if someone cusses on this site (or page). It's better than physical violence, or other malevolence, and probably prevents cancer.

But I'm of the 'express and be rid of it' school. Not everyone is.

Back to commenting on people's looks. If I were giving Durova some advice, now is the time to femme it up a bit. When she was younger (assuming that is her in her ED page, because it looks like her), the glasses and simple look was good to prove she was serious. But at this point, it does a woman good to go a bit softer, lighten her hair a bit, get rid of the glasses, and be a bit dressy. Younger smart women don't want to look too pretty at work. But older, well, going a bit more into aesthetical self-care is self-esteem enhancing, and gets a nice reaction externally. She seems to care about her career, based on how carefully she speaks, and despite that this is a tech field, looking polished doesn't hurt.

This post has been edited by Disillusioned Lackey: Tue 6th November 2007, 11:53pm

Link Mr. Kohs? If so, I can edit my earlier post to it (or at least make a mirror link, in the event the other one is yanked). ps: Thanks, and nice work.

I'm not sure I want to upload an 80 MB file anywhere just yet. Let's wait and see if YouTube and the person who originally posted it keep it there.

Greg

Did you ever criticise Guy [or any other male we have a photo of]'s looks? Or is it just women you're keen on belittling?

I must agree with Kamryn. The pressure society puts
on women to look a certain way is rather sexist.

Did you ever criticise Guy [or any other male we have a photo of]'s looks? Or is it just women you're keen on belittling?

Actually we have made fun of Guy, Snowspinner, David Gerard and just about every other male admin's looks so you're wrong on this point.

Actually we have made fun of Guy, Snowspinner, David Gerard and just about every other male admin's looks so you're wrong on this point.

Even Jimbo's (l?¿se majest??!)