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<img alt="" height="1" width="1" />[b]Wikipedia seeks to raise $7.5M in 'Wikipedia Forever' campaign[/b]
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The Wikimedia Foundation, the nonprofit organization that manages Wikipedia, is passing the hat around in its annual fundraising campaign. ...



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The phrase "(ad-)free forever" keeps reminding me of those gawd-awful "Evony: Free Forever" ads that are plastered all over Google's ad network. (If the WMF is interested in heading in that direction, I'm sure they've got plenty of cheesecake pictures to use on Commons. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif))

Thankfully, they haven't brought back the <marquee> from their 2007 fundraising ad campaign. If the intent was to shock people via an epileptic seizure into whipping out their credit card, it was a smashing success.
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QUOTE(Krimpet @ Tue 17th November 2009, 3:12am) *

The phrase "(ad-)free forever" keeps reminding me of those gawd-awful "Evony: Free Forever" ads that are plastered all over Google's ad network.

Well in Evony you have the option of buying your way out of any calamity or time-sink that arises. If somebody's in ur base killin ur doods, you can whip out your credit card and make more of them almost instantly.

As far as I know donating money to WMF generally does not help players advance in the MMOWPG, though some seem conditioned to expect that. I think most would rather donate time anyway.
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QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Sun 22nd November 2009, 1:42pm) *

As far as I know donating money to WMF generally does not help players advance in the MMOWPG, though some seem conditioned to expect that. I think most would rather donate time anyway.

Are you sure? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif)
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QUOTE(Krimpet @ Sun 22nd November 2009, 11:25pm) *

QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Sun 22nd November 2009, 1:42pm) *

As far as I know donating money to WMF generally does not help players advance in the MMOWPG, though some seem conditioned to expect that. I think most would rather donate time anyway.

Are you sure? (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/tongue.gif)


A lot of drama could have been avoided if only Daniel Brandt had known that all it would have taken was $5K to delete his bio.

Surprised how no one has pointed out how ludicrous the claim of "ad free forever" is when the banners themselves are ads. Even PBS has dropped the claim of being ad free from their bi-monthly pledge drives.
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Is it me or is this precisely the kind of thing you don't want to see in the middle of a fundraising drive?
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QUOTE(Gazimoff @ Mon 23rd November 2009, 7:36am) *

Is it me or is this precisely the kind of thing you don't want to see in the middle of a fundraising drive?


The Comments are certainly worth reading.
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Mon 23rd November 2009, 10:02am) *

QUOTE(Gazimoff @ Mon 23rd November 2009, 7:36am) *

Is it me or is this precisely the kind of thing you don't want to see in the middle of a fundraising drive?


The Comments are certainly worth reading.

Some of the comments were interesting, I suppose. Most of them seem to accurately define butthurt, though.
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QUOTE(MZMcBride @ Mon 23rd November 2009, 1:06pm) *
Some of the comments were interesting, I suppose. Most of them seem to accurately define butthurt, though.

Typical attitude... (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/bored.gif)

In any group of individuals who are active on the interwebs, you're going to have increasing numbers of anti-Wikipedia voices appearing over time - that's because Wikipedia is, by nature, the sort of endeavor that's highly inclusionary to begin with, and then reaches a "critical mass" point at which it gradually becomes more and more exclusionary. That happened to WP in 2006... This will all become more obvious during the Lockdown Phase™, which will probably begin in about 2-3 years, or sooner if WP starts running banner ads.

In fact, one might even call the Lockdown Phase the "Exclusionary Phase," and the Growth Phase (already in the past) the "Inclusionary Phase," but that's only from the WP user's perspective, not from the more general perspective of readers/websurfers.

But the way to postpone (or even theoretically prevent) the Lockdown Phase is to actually listen to those who feel they've been excluded and figure out if there's a way to address their concerns. Wikipedians don't really do that anymore - they were sort of doing it half-heartedly for a while, about a year or so ago, but mostly they're no longer interested now. (Perhaps this is because they're far more worried about how attrition will affect the future maintenance effort, or perhaps they've had too many bad experiences, from their perspective, with trying to be fair to those they consider "spammers.")

Obviously, I personally think the sooner the Lockdown Phase occurs, the better, but in order to encourage it I should probably start calling it the "Stabilization Phase" or the "Integrity Phase" or something like that.
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