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Posted by: EricBarbour

As usual, a bunch of right-crackpots object to Wikipedia's "liberal bias".
So they install MediaWiki on a server, and call themselves http://christopedia.us.

Mostly articles copied from WP, with a few exceptions.
Thus, the article about "http://christopedia.us/Racial_purity".

Funny, the registrar is in the British Virgin Islands.....

Posted by: emesee

Thank you. smile.gif

Posted by: Achromatic

I love this "vandalism" which I doubt was the original intent of the authors:

QUOTE
Bible verse
Ephesians 1,000,000:12
“ "...and god then said that homosexuals are to be loved and accepted,for mankind had greatly mistreated them in the past..." – King James Version ”


Maybe they can borrow from WP's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_Behind:_Eternal_Forces#Criticisms article. Have a read of that horrible Criticisms section.

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Mon 11th May 2009, 9:57pm) *

As usual, a bunch of right-crackpots object to Wikipedia's "liberal bias".
So they install MediaWiki on a server, and call themselves http://christopedia.us.

Mostly articles copied from WP, with a few exceptions.
Thus, the article about "http://christopedia.us/Racial_purity".

Funny, the registrar is in the British Virgin Islands.....


I see that somebody is having a go against it from a biological perspective. Heterosis and hybrid vigor, indeed. Though I bet if I add Lenny Bruce's suggestion that we humans should fuck each other into a single shade of tan, I bet I'd be reverted. smile.gif

My kudos for unintentional humor in the categorizing of this article:

Template:Ideology-small




Posted by: Alison

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Mon 11th May 2009, 9:57pm) *

Mostly articles copied from WP, with a few exceptions.
Thus, the article about "http://christopedia.us/Racial_purity".

How about http://christopedia.us/ANOTHER_FUCKING_CRACKER. There's quite a bit of vandalism and http://christopedia.us/w/index.php?title=Caucasoid&diff=6661&oldid=5991. rolleyes.gif laugh.gif

And the main page is an unattributed complete copy of http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hlavní_strana. Naughty!

Posted by: Firsfron of Ronchester

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Mon 11th May 2009, 9:57pm) *

As usual, a bunch of right-crackpots object to Wikipedia's "liberal bias".
So they install MediaWiki on a server, and call themselves http://christopedia.us.

Mostly articles copied from WP, with a few exceptions.
Thus, the article about "http://christopedia.us/Racial_purity".



Nasty! I can't imagine the gall of that place calling itself "Christian". I thought the main page was bad; then I saw the http://christopedia.us/w/index.php?title=Negroid&oldid=6511 article. Awful.

Posted by: dogbiscuit

QUOTE(Firsfron of Ronchester @ Tue 12th May 2009, 7:26am) *

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Mon 11th May 2009, 9:57pm) *

As usual, a bunch of right-crackpots object to Wikipedia's "liberal bias".
So they install MediaWiki on a server, and call themselves http://christopedia.us.

Mostly articles copied from WP, with a few exceptions.
Thus, the article about "http://christopedia.us/Racial_purity".



Nasty! I can't imagine the gall of that place calling itself "Christian". I thought the main page was bad; then I saw the http://christopedia.us/w/index.php?title=Negroid&oldid=6511 article. Awful.

You almost have to admire the complete insensitivity of someone who can put that nonsense on the web and leave it tagged with:

QUOTE
This article may be biased in favor of a liberal perspective.
This article contains unrefined material from Wikipedia and is therefore unlikely to conform with Christopedia's Christian Point of View policy. Please improve the article by removing manifestations of leftist propaganda and political correctness.


wtf.gif

Posted by: Moulton

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Tue 12th May 2009, 12:57am) *
Mostly articles copied from WP, with a few exceptions. Thus, the article about "http://christopedia.us/Racial_purity".

Compare the family photo of that racial purity article to http://ultra.musenet.org:8020/media/Syzygy-Family.jpg.

Posted by: GlassBeadGame

QUOTE(Moulton @ Tue 12th May 2009, 7:13am) *

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Tue 12th May 2009, 12:57am) *
Mostly articles copied from WP, with a few exceptions. Thus, the article about "http://christopedia.us/Racial_purity".

Compare the family photo of that racial purity article to http://ultra.musenet.org:8020/media/Syzygy-Family.jpg.


I hit the "random article" a few times and this wiki seems completely obsessed with race issues from a highly racist pov. I think it would be unfair to characterize this site as "Christian" even as narrowly defined by evangelicals or run of the mill fundamentalists.

Posted by: KimvdLinde

This site is nothing less than a hate-site, each and every article is obsessed with race and it peddles a lot of the standard White-Supremacist arguments such as racial purity, human subspecies etc.

Posted by: Push the button

You've gotta love the vandalism to http://christopedia.us/Template:Bible_verse template that has left the main page showing Ephesians 1,000,000:12 " ...and god then said that homosexuals are to be loved and accepted, for mankind had greatly mistreated them in the past..."...

Posted by: dogbiscuit

QUOTE(Push the button @ Tue 12th May 2009, 3:47pm) *

You've gotta love the vandalism to http://christopedia.us/Template:Bible_verse template that has left the main page showing Ephesians 1,000,000:12 " ...and god then said that homosexuals are to be loved and accepted, for mankind had greatly mistreated them in the past..."...

It's not all bad. I was rather taken with this from the main page article on Mr Obama:

QUOTE
After McCain was nominated as the Republican presidential candidate, there were three presidential debates between Obama and McCain in September and October 2008. During the first debate, McCain questioned whether the young negroid was strong enough on national security, pointing out that Obama had voted against funding for several missile systems. Obama then unzipped his pants, pulled out his penis (measuring over 13 inches in length), calmly slapped McCain across the face with his member, and then responded, "Got all the missile I need RIGHT HERE!" Polls after the debate showed Obama surging.

Hmm, no citation though...

Posted by: Peter Damian

The Hitler article is going to take some time if the edit history of this sentence is anything to go by. The original reads:

One of Hitler's fellow pupils in the Realschule was Ludwig Wittgenstein, one of the great philosophers of the 20th century.

It is changed to "One of Hitler's fellow pupils in the Realschule was Ludwig Wittgenstein, a homosexual Jew, and an infleuntal philosopher of the 20th century. "http://christopedia.us/w/index.php?title=Adolf_Hitler&diff=4693&oldid=4692

and then

One of Hitler's fellow pupils in the Realschule was Ludwig Wittgenstein, a homosexual and a Jew, who was an infleuntal philosopher of the 20th century. http://christopedia.us/w/index.php?title=Adolf_Hitler&diff=4694&oldid=4693

then

One of Hitler's fellow pupils in the Realschule was Ludwig Wittgenstein, an infleuntal philosopher of the 20th century. Wittgenstein was a Jew who would later choose to live a homosexual lifestyle. http://christopedia.us/w/index.php?title=Adolf_Hitler&diff=4695&oldid=4694

then

One of Hitler's fellow pupils was Ludwig Wittgenstein, an infleuntal philosopher of the 20th century. Wittgenstein was also a Jew who would later choose to live a homosexual lifestyle.http://christopedia.us/w/index.php?title=Adolf_Hitler&diff=4698&oldid=4697

then

One of Hitler's fellow pupils was Ludwig Wittgenstein, an influential philosopher of the 20th century. Wittgenstein was also a Jew who would later choose to live a homosexual lifestyle. http://christopedia.us/w/index.php?title=Adolf_Hitler&diff=4699&oldid=4698

then

One of Hitler's fellow pupils was Ludwig Wittgenstein, an influential Jewish philosopher of the 20th century who would later choose to live a homosexual lifestyle. http://christopedia.us/w/index.php?title=Adolf_Hitler&diff=4700&oldid=4699

then

One of Hitler's fellow pupils was Ludwig Wittgenstein, an influential Jewish philosopher of the 20th century who would choose to live a homosexual lifestyle. http://christopedia.us/w/index.php?title=Adolf_Hitler&diff=4701&oldid=4700

then

One of Hitler's fellow pupils was Ludwig Wittgenstein, an influential Jewish philosopher of the 20th century who chose to live a homosexual lifestyle. http://christopedia.us/w/index.php?title=Adolf_Hitler&diff=4752&oldid=4701

Posted by: nobs

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Mon 11th May 2009, 9:57pm) *

As usual, a bunch of right-crackpots object to Wikipedia's "liberal bias".
So they install MediaWiki on a server, and call themselves http://christopedia.us.
What proof do you have for this assertion? It looks like just another all too common standard commie disinformation site.

Posted by: GlassBeadGame

QUOTE(nobs @ Tue 12th May 2009, 1:43pm) *

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Mon 11th May 2009, 9:57pm) *

As usual, a bunch of right-crackpots object to Wikipedia's "liberal bias".
So they install MediaWiki on a server, and call themselves http://christopedia.us.
What proof do you have for this assertion? It looks like just another all too common standard commie disinformation site.


Neither a site representative of "Christian Conservatives" nor a disinformation site. There are enough "Christian's"of this hate filled type to people a wiki, but they are marginal and speak for no one but themselves and are not representative of any church. Even conservative Christians are likely more likely to espouse racial tolerance and understanding than the kind of twisted literalist interpretation that tortures scriptures to arrive at these hateful conclusions.

Posted by: nobs

QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Tue 12th May 2009, 12:53pm) *

QUOTE(nobs @ Tue 12th May 2009, 1:43pm) *

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Mon 11th May 2009, 9:57pm) *

As usual, a bunch of right-crackpots object to Wikipedia's "liberal bias".
So they install MediaWiki on a server, and call themselves http://christopedia.us.
What proof do you have for this assertion? It looks like just another all too common standard commie disinformation site.


Neither a site representative of "Christian Conservatives" nor a disinformation site. There are enough "Christian's"of this hate filled type to people a wiki, but they are marginal and speak for no one but themselves and are not representative of any church. Even conservative Christians are likely more likely to espouse racial tolerance and understanding than the kind of twisted literalist interpretation that tortures scriptures to arrive at these hateful conclusions.
Very true. But the whole idea is to hijack the name, Christ, and impugn Chrisitians. And it evidentally works, as the creator of this thread immediately assigned all sorts of other things to it.

Posted by: Alison

QUOTE(nobs @ Tue 12th May 2009, 1:01pm) *

QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Tue 12th May 2009, 12:53pm) *

Neither a site representative of "Christian Conservatives" nor a disinformation site. There are enough "Christian's"of this hate filled type to people a wiki, but they are marginal and speak for no one but themselves and are not representative of any church. Even conservative Christians are likely more likely to espouse racial tolerance and understanding than the kind of twisted literalist interpretation that tortures scriptures to arrive at these hateful conclusions.
Very true. But the whole idea is to hijack the name, Christ, and impugn Chrisitians. And it evidentally works, as the creator of this thread immediately assigned all sorts of other things to it.

But http://www.logicalfallacies.info/presumption/no-true-scotsman/ would say such things!! ohmy.gif rolleyes.gif

Frankly, many Christians do it all the time. You don't need Commieâ„¢ conspiracy theories to explain it away, unfortunately. I'm inclined to go with GBG on this one

Posted by: Mike R

QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 12th May 2009, 3:24pm) *

QUOTE(nobs @ Tue 12th May 2009, 1:01pm) *

QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Tue 12th May 2009, 12:53pm) *

Neither a site representative of "Christian Conservatives" nor a disinformation site. There are enough "Christian's"of this hate filled type to people a wiki, but they are marginal and speak for no one but themselves and are not representative of any church. Even conservative Christians are likely more likely to espouse racial tolerance and understanding than the kind of twisted literalist interpretation that tortures scriptures to arrive at these hateful conclusions.
Very true. But the whole idea is to hijack the name, Christ, and impugn Chrisitians. And it evidentally works, as the creator of this thread immediately assigned all sorts of other things to it.

But http://www.logicalfallacies.info/presumption/no-true-scotsman/ would say such things!! :o :rolleyes:

Frankly, many Christians do it all the time. You don't need Commieâ„¢ conspiracy theories to explain it away, unfortunately. I'm inclined to go with GBG on this one

This disagreement is an example of http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Poe%27s_Law in action.

Is this thread in the right subforum?

Posted by: LessHorrid vanU

QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 12th May 2009, 7:06am) *


...

How about http://christopedia.us/ANOTHER_FUCKING_CRACKER.

...



I am a little concerned; I live quite near St. Erth.

Posted by: TungstenCarbide

QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 12th May 2009, 8:24pm) *

QUOTE(nobs @ Tue 12th May 2009, 1:01pm) *

QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Tue 12th May 2009, 12:53pm) *

Neither a site representative of "Christian Conservatives" nor a disinformation site. There are enough "Christian's"of this hate filled type to people a wiki, but they are marginal and speak for no one but themselves and are not representative of any church. Even conservative Christians are likely more likely to espouse racial tolerance and understanding than the kind of twisted literalist interpretation that tortures scriptures to arrive at these hateful conclusions.
Very true. But the whole idea is to hijack the name, Christ, and impugn Chrisitians. And it evidentally works, as the creator of this thread immediately assigned all sorts of other things to it.

But http://www.logicalfallacies.info/presumption/no-true-scotsman/ would say such things!! ohmy.gif rolleyes.gif

Frankly, many Christians do it all the time. You don't need Commieâ„¢ conspiracy theories to explain it away, unfortunately. I'm inclined to go with GBG on this one

Not just Christians. People are capable of doing really bad things when fired by righteousness or self-righteousness. In fact, lynch mobs can't exist without it.

Posted by: Rhindle

Without reading this, which I don't think is necessary anyway, it sounds like this is the stuff you hear out of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church.

Posted by: Eva Destruction

By the admittedly unreliable tool that is reverse domain analysis, it appears to be run by the same people who run http://www.believemail.com/pages/index.php?refid=. (Canadians, join together to smash the socialist collectivist emblem of the maple leaf!)

Posted by: Sarcasticidealist

QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Tue 12th May 2009, 7:27pm) *

By the admittedly unreliable tool that is reverse domain analysis, it appears to be run by the same people who run http://www.believemail.com/pages/index.php?refid=. (Canadians, join together to smash the socialist collectivist emblem of the maple leaf!)
Their knowledge of heraldry needs work - the Red Ensign was never Canada's national flag. Before the maple leaf came in in 1965, Canada's flag was the Union Jack.

(I'm arguably full of shit on this point, but since it's arguable I'm going to take the negative side.)

Posted by: EricBarbour

QUOTE(nobs @ Tue 12th May 2009, 1:01pm) *
Very true. But the whole idea is to hijack the name, Christ, and impugn Chrisitians. And it evidentally works, as the creator of this thread immediately assigned all sorts of other things to it.

You're welcome. I knew you'd like it.

Posted by: Alison

Looks like Brian Peppers has finally made it to Christopedia. Compare, "Comparison of a Negro and Caucasian male" http://christopedia.us/w/images/archive/8/8e/20090513010411%21Different.jpg versus http://christopedia.us/w/images/archive/8/8e/20090513062432%21Different.jpg.

Given the http://christopedia.us/Special:Recentchanges and the fact that the mainpage now has a http://christopedia.us/Image:Spacer.PNG on it, I'd call that well and truly vandalized.

Nice work, guys!! evilgrin.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Posted by: WikiWatch

QUOTE(Alison @ Wed 13th May 2009, 1:33pm) *

Looks like Brian Peppers has finally made it to Christopedia. Compare, "Comparison of a Negro and Caucasian male" http://christopedia.us/w/images/archive/8/8e/20090513010411%21Different.jpg versus http://christopedia.us/w/images/8/8e/Different.jpg.

Given the http://christopedia.us/Special:Recentchanges and the fact that the mainpage now has a http://christopedia.us/Image:Spacer.PNG on it, I'd call that well and truly vandalized.

Nice work, guys!! evilgrin.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


Sadly it didn't last long.

http://christopedia.us/Category:Banned_users


Posted by: Moulton

QUOTE(WikiWatch @ Wed 13th May 2009, 2:34am) *
http://christopedia.us/Category:Banned_users

Shouldn't that be Category:Crucified_Infidels ?

Posted by: Eva Destruction

"http://christopedia.us/Racial_differences_between_Negroes_and_Caucasians#Anthropology". Hmmm, can anyone spot the common element regarding http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_winners_of_the_New_York_City_Marathon#Men.27s_Division? Or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Marathon#World_all-time_top_ten_lists?

I have to admire the line "His only known means of transporting goods was on the top of his hard burry head. For shelter he never progressed beyond the common mud hut, the construction of which a beaver or muskrat is capable." for sheer impossible-to-parody value, though.

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Wed 13th May 2009, 6:52am) *

"http://christopedia.us/Racial_differences_between_Negroes_and_Caucasians#Anthropology". Hmmm, can anyone spot the common element regarding http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_winners_of_the_New_York_City_Marathon#Men.27s_Division? Or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_Marathon#World_all-time_top_ten_lists?

Yes. Well, Christopedia has a hard time distinguishing between West Africans (who are indeed the sprinters) and East Africans (the long distance runners), who are athletically entirely different and are physically constructed quite differently. Though they do share somewhat the same skin color, at least as viewed from the perspective of the "pale old things."

I suppose for the extremely stupid, that coloration acts as camo. How the hell DO you tell the dark quarterhorse apart from the dark thoroughbred? wacko.gif


Posted by: nobs

QUOTE(Rhindle @ Tue 12th May 2009, 2:36pm) *

Without reading this, which I don't think is necessary anyway, it sounds like this is the stuff you hear out of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Westboro_Baptist_Church.
Ah, yes. I used to have a picture of Al Gore on the steps of Westboro Baptist Church, but http://www.conservapedia.com/Al_Gore#Supporters I can find right now. Nevertheless, it is true that Gore's 1988 Democratic Presidential bid was run out of the offices of Westboro Baptist Church.

Posted by: Eva Destruction

QUOTE(nobs @ Fri 5th June 2009, 8:48pm) *

http://www.conservapedia.com/Al_Gore#Supporters I can find right now

"Gore's defenders claim that the majority of that power came from "green", or environmentally friendly, power sources such as solar and wind power. These power sources are much more expensive than traditional power sources such as coal and nuclear power." Ah yes, traditional nuclear power – I well remember my grandpappy sending my out in the bleak midwinter to gather the tristructural-isotropic uranium-oxide impregnated graphite, after which we'd all sit round and warm our hands around the fission core.

However bad Wikipedia gets, one can always safely assume that Conservapedia will be a couple of steps ahead in the crazyness race.

Posted by: Somey

At the moment, http://christopedia.us/Westboro_Baptist_Church still carries the original WP image reference to "Image:Westboro Baptist Church in New York by David Shankbone.jpg"... laugh.gif

It looks like quite a few of their articles are simply coped from Wikipedia, and they're in the process of rewording them to be more racist, homophobic, xenophobic, etc. This might be a good example of a large-scale GFDL violation-in-progress... hmmm.gif

Posted by: nobs

QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Fri 5th June 2009, 1:06pm) *

QUOTE(nobs @ Fri 5th June 2009, 8:48pm) *

http://www.conservapedia.com/Al_Gore#Supporters I can find right now

However bad Wikipedia gets, one can always safely assume that Conservapedia will be a couple of steps ahead in the crazyness race.
Well, let's try this direct quote from Wikipedia --

QUOTE
... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_Phelps#Support_for_Al_Gore in Kansas.
Not only does God hate fags, Nobel Prize winning Democratic Presidential Nominee & Greenie Weenie icon Al Gore does (or did), too.

Posted by: Milton Roe

QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Fri 5th June 2009, 1:06pm) *

QUOTE(nobs @ Fri 5th June 2009, 8:48pm) *

http://www.conservapedia.com/Al_Gore#Supporters I can find right now

"Gore's defenders claim that the majority of that power came from "green", or environmentally friendly, power sources such as solar and wind power. These power sources are much more expensive than traditional power sources such as coal and nuclear power." Ah yes, traditional nuclear power – I well remember my grandpappy sending my out in the bleak midwinter to gather the tristructural-isotropic uranium-oxide impregnated graphite, after which we'd all sit round and warm our hands around the fission core.

However bad Wikipedia gets, one can always safely assume that Conservapedia will be a couple of steps ahead in the crazyness race.

Well, nuclear power plants have been on-line since the 1950's-- longer than most people in the US have been alive. They're certainly more traditional than windfarms and any serious solar power arrays.

Posted by: CharlotteWebb

QUOTE(Mike R @ Tue 12th May 2009, 8:38pm) *

This disagreement is an example of http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/Poe%27s_Law in action.

Nice article. Shame it was deleted from WP.

I like how the green triangle does not reach the top of the graph. That is, all forms of expression are observed as serious fundamentalism even before the beholder's fundamentalism reaches infinity. I have to wonder if this is intentional. Or maybe it's all parody and I can't tell the difference. dry.gif

http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/File:Poeversion.gif

Posted by: Mariner

Re: christopedia
I wonder if its because of the stalemate at wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Ireland_article_names that User:Crispness has gone to christopedia to cure http://christopedia.us/Special:Contributions/Crispness ?

I wish crispness well, but will be surprised if he is not silenced as Sarek did to Domer

http://christopedia.us/w/index.php?title=Republic_of_Ireland&diff=prev&oldid=6954 - Lets just watch


Posted by: One

It's not impossible that this site is insincere. Consider, for example, the recent "Scientology CEO statement." It's a smear, but to those of a certain POV (the common opinion that Scientologists are insane), it seems credible and reaffirms their low opinion of Scientology. It's possible that an anti-Christian could create such a site and spread it among Californian liberals who would be relatively credulous.

That said, I think this site is sincere. It's in the over-the-top Westboro style, and I wouldn't be too surprised if it were a hoax, but I would put even money on sincerity. If they start to tighten editing, it would be further evidence that they're honestly trying to create a racist encyclopedia.

Posted by: Sceptre

QUOTE(dogbiscuit @ Tue 12th May 2009, 5:42pm) *

QUOTE
After McCain was nominated as the Republican presidential candidate, there were three presidential debates between Obama and McCain in September and October 2008. During the first debate, McCain questioned whether the young negroid was strong enough on national security, pointing out that Obama had voted against funding for several missile systems. Obama then unzipped his pants, pulled out his penis (measuring over 13 inches in length), calmly slapped McCain across the face with his member, and then responded, "Got all the missile I need RIGHT HERE!" Polls after the debate showed Obama surging.



That didn't happen, because Obama would've won by with 400+ EVs if he did that tongue.gif

Posted by: aeon

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Tue 12th May 2009, 4:57am) *

As usual, a bunch of right-crackpots object to Wikipedia's "liberal bias".
So they install MediaWiki on a server, and call themselves http://christopedia.us.

Mostly articles copied from WP, with a few exceptions.
Thus, the article about "http://christopedia.us/Racial_purity".

Funny, the registrar is in the British Virgin Islands.....

Actually, some of them seem to be copied from Uncyclopedia... see the "God" article, for example...