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post Sat 26th September 2009, 1:08am
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6 months away, and resolve is slipping. Feeling the need to contribute and help out again. Suggestions?

What's your stance on the BLP problem?

It's not a problem, it's a disaster ... oh wait ... you weren't asking me. biggrin.gif
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post Sat 26th September 2009, 8:47am
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6 months away, and resolve is slipping. Feeling the need to contribute and help out again. Suggestions?

Have you seen White Ox? tongue.gif
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post Sat 26th September 2009, 8:58am
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QUOTE(Gazimoff @ Sat 26th September 2009, 6:45am) *

6 months away, and resolve is slipping. Feeling the need to contribute and help out again. Suggestions?


First go bang your head on a nearby wall for a bit. If the sensation pleases you, then you are probably in the right frame of mind for a return.
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post Sat 26th September 2009, 12:23pm
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QUOTE(Gazimoff @ Fri 25th September 2009, 4:45pm) *

6 months away, and resolve is slipping. Feeling the need to contribute and help out again. Suggestions?


Go into your real community (the one outside of your door) and volunteer. Work with kids that need mentoring. Do work with the Red Cross or a volunteer emergency services operation. Lend a hand at a local food bank. If you need to contribute, then do it in a way that makes a genuine impact on the world.
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post Sat 26th September 2009, 3:16pm
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QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Fri 25th September 2009, 10:09pm) *

Make Felix Pedro a featured article on or before June 22, 2010.


I was never one for biographies, personally. Besides, the quality of my writing and my experiences with the Featured Article mob put me off the idea. In comparison, RfA was easier.

QUOTE(LaraLove @ Sat 26th September 2009, 12:26am) *

What's your stance on the BLP problem?


I think it's a huge problem, and I don't think that the recent changes and new proposals go far enough. That said, I'm not sure that the geeks who started Wikipedia ten years ago had any idea of the problems it would face. That one single website can cause such damage to an individual's life or career is extremely worrying, and yet large numbers of those that work on it feel that their behaviour is perfectly acceptable.

Part of me feels that bigraphies of living people should be completely cut out of Wikipedia and housed elsewhere (in a similar way to Commons or News), with far stricter policies on inclusion and sourcing. If only to ensure that those of us who want to work on more boring or mundane topics can get some peace and quiet.

Yes, it is a mess. And it needs to be sorted. Whether they have the balls to do it is another thing. One thing I have learned about online communities is that where there is a nettle that needs to be grasped or a bitter pill that needs to be swallowed, people will do absolutely anything to avoid it.

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First go bang your head on a nearby wall for a bit. If the sensation pleases you, then you are probably in the right frame of mind for a return.


I'd love to get my hands on some churn rates for Wikipedia, both from editors and administrators. Services like Twitter and Facebook have a 60% churn rate and yet they don't generally have people going out of their way to piss eachother off. I think that there needs to be more standing up to dickish behaviour and more opportunity to nip things in the bud, but I don't see that happening any time soon. Then again, I find it interesting that WP is now actively courting experts to join the project. I don't think these experts will stick around much once they find out how much their knowledge is appreciated by others in the community.

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Go into your real community (the one outside of your door) and volunteer. Work with kids that need mentoring. Do work with the Red Cross or a volunteer emergency services operation. Lend a hand at a local food bank. If you need to contribute, then do it in a way that makes a genuine impact on the world.


I'll dwell on this. I've always been part of the tech community, and I'll be looking to flex it in other ways. But it is a shame, however, that this project is not as philanthropic as I had once hoped.
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post Sat 26th September 2009, 5:51pm
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QUOTE(Gazimoff @ Sat 26th September 2009, 11:16am) *

QUOTE(LaraLove @ Sat 26th September 2009, 12:26am) *

What's your stance on the BLP problem?


I think it's a huge problem, and I don't think that the recent changes and new proposals go far enough. That said, I'm not sure that the geeks who started Wikipedia ten years ago had any idea of the problems it would face. That one single website can cause such damage to an individual's life or career is extremely worrying, and yet large numbers of those that work on it feel that their behaviour is perfectly acceptable.

Part of me feels that bigraphies of living people should be completely cut out of Wikipedia and housed elsewhere (in a similar way to Commons or News), with far stricter policies on inclusion and sourcing. If only to ensure that those of us who want to work on more boring or mundane topics can get some peace and quiet.

Yes, it is a mess. And it needs to be sorted. Whether they have the balls to do it is another thing. One thing I have learned about online communities is that where there is a nettle that needs to be grasped or a bitter pill that needs to be swallowed, people will do absolutely anything to avoid it.

Brilliant idea. Never seen that one before. Absolutely brilliant. Will it ever happen? Almost certainly not. But I think that's probably the best proposal I've seen.
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post Sat 26th September 2009, 6:49pm
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Biopedia?
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post Sat 26th September 2009, 6:58pm
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Biopedia?

BLPdeia
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post Sat 26th September 2009, 7:35pm
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Biopedia?

BLPdeia

BLPocalypse Now!
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post Sat 26th September 2009, 7:38pm
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Biopedia?

BLPdeia

BLPocalypse Now!

Doran's Vile
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post Sat 26th September 2009, 7:39pm
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I was thinking Wikiography.
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post Sat 26th September 2009, 7:45pm
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QUOTE(Eva Destruction @ Sat 26th September 2009, 12:38pm) *

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Biopedia?

BLPdeia

BLPocalypse Now!

Doran's Vile

Very good. In Doran's Vile. GREAT title for her jail bio. In the Belly of the Wikibeast.


Gossipedia
Wikigossip
Wikitabloid
Wikitabloidigest
Wikidefamegame
WikiDishDirt

So many possilbilities. So much time.
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post Sat 26th September 2009, 7:55pm
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QUOTE(Gazimoff @ Sat 26th September 2009, 10:16am) *
I'll dwell on this. I've always been part of the tech community, and I'll be looking to flex it in other ways. But it is a shame, however, that this project is not as philanthropic as I had once hoped.


Why don't you volunteer to teach computer skills to kids? Or start your own web site that would build a positive and intellectually focused youth community online (which WP is not).
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post Sat 26th September 2009, 8:31pm
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Gossipedia
Wikigossip
Wikitabloid
Wikitabloidigest
Wikidefamegame
WikiDishDirt

So many possilbilities. So much time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jen...ia#False_gossip
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post Mon 28th September 2009, 11:17pm
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Sat 26th September 2009, 1:23pm) *

QUOTE(Gazimoff @ Fri 25th September 2009, 4:45pm) *

6 months away, and resolve is slipping. Feeling the need to contribute and help out again. Suggestions?


Go into your real community (the one outside of your door) and volunteer. Work with kids that need mentoring. Do work with the Red Cross or a volunteer emergency services operation. Lend a hand at a local food bank. If you need to contribute, then do it in a way that makes a genuine impact on the world.


I did about 18 months after I left University at a local college for 16-18 year olds, training them on how to do basic computer maintenance. I'm not sure I'd want to go back and do it again, but the experience was valuable.

I'm currently doing some research into crowdsourced knowledge-sharing projects like Wikipedia for some other projects, and I'll let you know how they progress. Other than that, I have other online projects I may get started smile.gif
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QUOTE(LaraLove @ Sat 26th September 2009, 1:31pm) *

QUOTE(Milton Roe @ Sat 26th September 2009, 3:45pm) *

Gossipedia
Wikigossip
Wikitabloid
Wikitabloidigest
Wikidefamegame
WikiDishDirt

So many possilbilities. So much time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jen...ia#False_gossip

One can make a perfectly Wikipedian argument that the Gere Gerbil needs to be examined from stem to stern, and probably have its own subpage. And it all makes me think of somebody or other's comment that Warhol was right about everyone being famous in the future for 20 minutes, except they didn't tell you it would be 20 minutes of rectal probing.
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QUOTE(Gazimoff @ Mon 28th September 2009, 11:17pm) *

I'm currently doing some research into crowdsourced knowledge-sharing projects like Wikipedia for some other projects, and I'll let you know how they progress. Other than that, I have other online projects I may get started smile.gif


If you are interested in learning about other crowdsourcing projects, you might find Wikisource interesting. The DNB and EB1911 projects are quite mature and would appreciate an extra hand, even if it was only for a little while. Or you could help the Proofread of the Month; the text for September is Notes on the churches in the counties of Kent, Sussex, and Surrey, and it looks like it wont be finished before the end of the month.
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Sat 26th September 2009, 10:23pm) *

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6 months away, and resolve is slipping. Feeling the need to contribute and help out again. Suggestions?


Go into your real community (the one outside of your door) and volunteer. Work with kids that need mentoring. Do work with the Red Cross or a volunteer emergency services operation. Lend a hand at a local food bank. If you need to contribute, then do it in a way that makes a genuine impact on the world.


Oh god yes. Way more fulfilling than WP. (I am in a "volunteer emergency services operation" as Horsey put it.)
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QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Fri 25th September 2009, 9:09pm) *

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6 months away, and resolve is slipping. Feeling the need to contribute and help out again. Suggestions?

Make Felix Pedro a featured article on or before June 22, 2010.

Sorry, you fail.
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QUOTE(CharlotteWebb @ Fri 23rd July 2010, 1:32am) *

Sorry, you fail.


Maybe. Maybe I won. Depends what game you're playing wink.gif
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