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post Wed 15th July 2009, 12:21am
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Complete with dull essay on why Wikipedia is apparently broken and failing.
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post Wed 15th July 2009, 12:23am
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There is a forum here called "Editors", you know.
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post Wed 15th July 2009, 12:24am
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QUOTE(Kato @ Wed 15th July 2009, 1:23am) *

There is a forum here called "Editors", you know.


As Rootology is an admin who retired, I figured I'd use the most appropriate forum this time. Thanks for the suggestion anyway.
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post Wed 15th July 2009, 12:24am
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QUOTE(Kato @ Tue 14th July 2009, 9:23pm) *
There is a forum here called "Editors", you know.
This is in the "Admin retirements" forum, where it belongs. Not sure why that forum's in "Bureaucracy", rather than "Editors", mind you.
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post Wed 15th July 2009, 12:33am
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Who the f**k cares? The guy was a clown and this essay shows that he needs to spend more time engaging in reality.
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post Wed 15th July 2009, 12:59am
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QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Wed 15th July 2009, 1:33am) *

Who the f**k cares? The guy was a clown and this essay shows that he needs to spend more time engaging in reality.


I care! Rootology brought a lot to Wikipedia and his depature is detrimental to its future success.
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post Wed 15th July 2009, 1:06am
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QUOTE(Nerd @ Tue 14th July 2009, 6:59pm) *

QUOTE(A Horse With No Name @ Wed 15th July 2009, 1:33am) *

Who the f**k cares? The guy was a clown and this essay shows that he needs to spend more time engaging in reality.


I care! Rootology brought a lot to Wikipedia and his depature is detrimental to its future success.


Nothing wrong with Root that being away from Wikipedia won't cure. I wish him well.
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post Wed 15th July 2009, 1:12am
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QUOTE(Nerd @ Tue 14th July 2009, 8:59pm) *


I care!


You are a sweet person. No sarcasm intended -- that statement was sincere and I respect you for it.

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Rootology brought a lot to Wikipedia and his depature is detrimental to its future success.


Now I can revert to being the horse from hell -- no single person or equine is indispensable to Wikipedia's success. Although losing eye candy like Lara or Steve Smith would make things a lot less entertaining. However, Wikipedia will stagger and sputter without Root, just as it did while he was with us.
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post Wed 15th July 2009, 1:47am
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He actually isn't a bad guy--he always seemed levelheaded, and never caused
oceans of tedious and embarrassing dramah, unlike some other hardcore admins.

That's how it works. The crazies force out the decent people, then the whole damn
thing falls apart when the crazies take over (and inevitably fight among themselves).

It's just a big BBS. With money and fame. yecch.gif
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post Wed 15th July 2009, 1:53am
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I dunno about the "always levelheaded" nonsense -- you should see the curious email he sent me back in January when he was up for adminship. I though the whole situation then was a little weird.

That said, I'm glad to see that he seems to have rejected the Wikicult's teachings this time around; perhaps he'll learn to stay away for good this time.
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post Wed 15th July 2009, 2:03am
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QUOTE(Nerd @ Wed 15th July 2009, 12:21am) *

Complete with dull essay on why Wikipedia is apparently broken and failing.


He's still an admin, and he uses "we" too often in his essay for me to consider him a former wikipedian. He'll be back, just like Giano.
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post Wed 15th July 2009, 2:05am
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QUOTE(tarantino @ Tue 14th July 2009, 11:03pm) *
He's still an admin, and he uses "we" too often in his essay for me to consider him a former wikipedian. He'll be back, just like Giano.
Without commenting on the merits of your prediction, the reason he uses "we" in the essay is because he wrote it before deciding to quit.
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post Wed 15th July 2009, 6:47am
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Whats he doing on Commons? Hes an admin there but has made no edits in months.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:...tions/Rootology
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post Wed 15th July 2009, 6:53am
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QUOTE(sbrown @ Wed 15th July 2009, 2:47am) *

Whats he doing on Commons? Hes an admin there but has made no edits in months.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:...tions/Rootology

What's he doing? I think you just answered your own question: Nothing.
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post Wed 15th July 2009, 7:51am
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QUOTE(LaraLove @ Wed 15th July 2009, 6:53am) *

QUOTE(sbrown @ Wed 15th July 2009, 2:47am) *

Whats he doing on Commons? Hes an admin there but has made no edits in months.

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:...tions/Rootology

What's he doing? I think you just answered your own question: Nothing.


And "nothing" is acceptable according to the Commons inactivity process.


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post Wed 15th July 2009, 1:31pm
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It's a good and thoughtful essay. It would be worthwhile if many more seasoned Wikipedians engaged in such reflective thinking and review.

It's unlikely that Wikipedia will right itself and evolve to a functional 21st Century governance structure, but one by one, disillusioned Wikipedians can individually learn and explain in their own words why Wikipedia operates under an ill-conceived, tragically failed and unsustainable model.
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post Wed 15th July 2009, 4:57pm
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Although Rootology has retired, he gets to keep the honorary title of "founding member" of the Advisory Council. I seem to recall that his short-lived Advisory Council work mainly involved slagging off people like me, arguing that we were only opposed to the Council because we had been sanctioned in the past, and telling us that we were all doomed unless we accepted the ArbCom's edicts--so of course it's important to recognize his contributions to setting the tone and style of this new body's work! laugh.gif
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post Wed 15th July 2009, 5:01pm
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QUOTE(everyking @ Wed 15th July 2009, 10:57am) *

Although Rootology has retired, he gets to keep the honorary title of "founding member" of the Advisory Council. I seem to recall that his short-lived Advisory Council work mainly involved slagging off people like me, arguing that we were only opposed to the Council because we had been sanctioned in the past, and telling us that we were all doomed unless we accepted the ArbCom's edicts--so of course it's important to recognize his contributions to setting the tone and style of this new body's work! laugh.gif


You can be kind of vindictive, can't you?
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post Wed 15th July 2009, 5:29pm
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QUOTE(everyking @ Wed 15th July 2009, 12:57pm) *

Although Rootology has retired, he gets to keep the honorary title of "founding member" of the Advisory Council. I seem to recall that his short-lived Advisory Council work mainly involved slagging off people like me, arguing that we were only opposed to the Council because we had been sanctioned in the past, and telling us that we were all doomed unless we accepted the ArbCom's edicts--so of course it's important to recognize his contributions to setting the tone and style of this new body's work! laugh.gif

You just get more and more annoying. Go expand Ashlee Simpson. Take her back to FA... doesn't she deseve it? If you really loved her, you'd care enough to make it happen.
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QUOTE(LaraLove @ Wed 15th July 2009, 6:29pm) *

QUOTE(everyking @ Wed 15th July 2009, 12:57pm) *

Although Rootology has retired, he gets to keep the honorary title of "founding member" of the Advisory Council. I seem to recall that his short-lived Advisory Council work mainly involved slagging off people like me, arguing that we were only opposed to the Council because we had been sanctioned in the past, and telling us that we were all doomed unless we accepted the ArbCom's edicts--so of course it's important to recognize his contributions to setting the tone and style of this new body's work! laugh.gif

You just get more and more annoying. Go expand Ashlee Simpson. Take her back to FA... doesn't she deseve it? If you really loved her, you'd care enough to make it happen.


Are you officially advising me in your capacity as a member of the Advisory Council? If so, do you mind if I reciprocate with some advice of my own? It will have to be unofficial advice, because I don't have a title, but I think it's pretty good advice anyway. I think you should go write some content--you pick the article. I looked through your last 100 contributions and only found one article edit, and that one was to nominate an article for deletion. Are you sure your advice is going to be well-grounded if you aren't out there actively editing articles? I don't want the ArbCom to be getting bad advice, you know! laugh.gif
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