It is probably easiest for me if I begin with the thoughts that woke me up at 5 o'clock this morning, evidently prompted by my previous night's reading of
the evidence presented by SlimVirgin re the Request for Arbitration re what Wikipediots like to call Attack Sites, which thoughts I was consequently moved to try and share with that body on that page, submitting them under the authorship of
Name Redacted. That attempt was abended by the usual crowd of Free Speech Abenders, but some trains of thought can be difficult to stop once they get their momentum going, so let me bring it all home to the Rounders of the Roundhouse here.
Evidence presented by Name RedactedI have never spoken in one of these proceedings before, so I hope that you will forgive me if I do not know the details of protocol. I am hopeful also that you will be patient with me as I make my sometimes faltering attempts to say my peace. I will try to state my observations plainly and simply. My critics tell me that I sometimes succeed, but it usually takes me several trials to do so. I have inserted my comments at this place because I want to begin by commenting on some of the points raised just above by
SlimVirgin. I have to go to the dentist in a little while, but it looks like I have a half an hour, and I will be back later today.
Name Redacted 09:54, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
I will need to make a few bird's-eye-view observations first, filling in the details later. I believe that the issue of badsites is really just a symptom of a deeper issue that is not being fully addressed in the Wikipedia community. I believe that facing the deeper issue is critical to the future viability of Wikipedia. I suppose everybody says that, but I honestly believe it.
Name Redacted 10:16, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Preliminary questionsSlimVirgin mentions a number of issues that I think are in need of further clarification among the Wikipedian user community before it will be possible to make fair and principled decisions about external links and references. One of these issues concerns the scope of Wikipedian policies like those about Neutrality, Reliability, and Verifiability. The question is, do these policies apply only to article content, or do they apply also to discussion and policy pages like this one? I do not know the answer, and it is my impression that many editors and administrators are confused about this, which is why I am asking the question.
Name Redacted 14:48, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Unhealthy trendsTo be continued …
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