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| Kurt M. Weber |
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QUOTE(radek @ Tue 23rd November 2010, 9:22am)  Note the block was quickly reversed by Avraham, yet Off2riorob's still catching crap for having it on his record.
I know that experience all to well. I have six separate blocking incidents on record. Only one of those went unchallenged and lasted the full period of the original block. That's because that's the only one that was actually deserved and legitimate. The rest were absolute nonsense and totally baseless, as evidenced by the fact that they were all overturned well before they expired. But who bothers to actually? There needs to be a mechanism for blocked users to add to their block log a challenge to a block that was placed to indicate that they, and just about everyone else except for a few shrill voices, believe that that block was unwarranted and put links to supporting evidence and arguments.
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| BelovedFox |
Tue 23rd November 2010, 9:33pm
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QUOTE(Kurt M. Weber @ Tue 23rd November 2010, 6:33pm)  QUOTE(radek @ Tue 23rd November 2010, 9:22am)  Note the block was quickly reversed by Avraham, yet Off2riorob's still catching crap for having it on his record.
I know that experience all to well. I have six separate blocking incidents on record. Only one of those went unchallenged and lasted the full period of the original block. That's because that's the only one that was actually deserved and legitimate. The rest were absolute nonsense and totally baseless, as evidenced by the fact that they were all overturned well before they expired. But who bothers to actually? There needs to be a mechanism for blocked users to add to their block log a challenge to a block that was placed to indicate that they, and just about everyone else except for a few shrill voices, believe that that block was unwarranted and put links to supporting evidence and arguments. Even as someone with a clean block log, I entirely agree with this. Some way to add "annotations" and a link to the unblock discussion would allow interested parties to understand better the circumstances behind the block, rather than forcing the editor to carry around diffs to defend him or herself against aspersions.
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| powercorrupts |
Tue 23rd November 2010, 9:53pm
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QUOTE(BelovedFox @ Tue 23rd November 2010, 9:33pm)  QUOTE(Kurt M. Weber @ Tue 23rd November 2010, 6:33pm)  QUOTE(radek @ Tue 23rd November 2010, 9:22am)  Note the block was quickly reversed by Avraham, yet Off2riorob's still catching crap for having it on his record.
I know that experience all to well. I have six separate blocking incidents on record. Only one of those went unchallenged and lasted the full period of the original block. That's because that's the only one that was actually deserved and legitimate. The rest were absolute nonsense and totally baseless, as evidenced by the fact that they were all overturned well before they expired. But who bothers to actually? There needs to be a mechanism for blocked users to add to their block log a challenge to a block that was placed to indicate that they, and just about everyone else except for a few shrill voices, believe that that block was unwarranted and put links to supporting evidence and arguments. Even as someone with a clean block log, I entirely agree with this. Some way to add "annotations" and a link to the unblock discussion would allow interested parties to understand better the circumstances behind the block, rather than forcing the editor to carry around diffs to defend him or herself against aspersions. Off2riorob is catching flak because he's a prick. He's not an admin, just a typical WP dick. This is a good one from his questions page - Looking at your impressive contribs. list, it looks like you usually start Wikiediting before 8am and keep at it all day until 9 or 10pm, every day. Massive amounts of editorial experience: but how would you respond to the concern that adding arbitration to that workload is too much? Maybe you need a real job first, son. Not sure I'd call a clear addiction 'editorial experience' mind you. Political though they are. Reading through his answers - they are all fascinatingly uncommited. He doesn't seem to be expressing an opinion on anything. Regarding WR, though he says "I don't have strong opinions about wikipedia review and think it is acceptable for users if they want to comment there without being criticized here for doing that. " which kind of makes me think he's here. (he's avoided Lar's direct question on whether he has an outside criticism site account or not). Basically, he expects to be handed admin status as a combo package (there presumably aren't any rules on standing for adminship properly after election - which seem ridiculous). As he is so flexible and clearly self-important, I wonder if anyone will vote for him as some kind of naive patsy. This post has been edited by powercorrupts: Tue 23rd November 2010, 10:24pm
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| Deputy Cabal Ringleader |
Fri 26th November 2010, 9:57pm
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QUOTE(Cla68 @ Tue 23rd November 2010, 11:45am)  QUOTE(BelovedFox @ Mon 22nd November 2010, 5:04am)  At least the field's getting more interesting now. Actually have more candidates that slots  EDIT: And Giano's doing his best to make it about him somehow... :\ And I really hope he gets elected. The ArbCom could really use someone like him. Please, please, do expand on that.
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| Alison |
Sun 28th November 2010, 10:11pm
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QUOTE(RMHED @ Sun 28th November 2010, 1:59pm)  QUOTE(powercorrupts @ Sun 28th November 2010, 9:46pm)  Dr Loosmark has been 'exposed' as a longtime multiple sock-puppet holder (they've found 45 of them, so have bloked for 1 month), but is still up for the vote, with just a note in his discussion page - not his main voting pages (ie the statement and the questions and the vote itself). I'm wondering how many votes the editors will get automatically, seeing as the admin/arbs are such a bad lot? I'm really struggling to find more than two candidates I could possibly support. He only got a month block for that much socking!! He got off lightly, someone must like him. It's up on WP:AN for ban right now, so it ain't over till it's over  EDIT: And all the Eastern Europe types are piling in for the kill. Looks like it's game-over for Loosmark ...
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| RMHED |
Sun 28th November 2010, 10:37pm
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QUOTE(Alison @ Sun 28th November 2010, 10:11pm)  QUOTE(RMHED @ Sun 28th November 2010, 1:59pm)  QUOTE(powercorrupts @ Sun 28th November 2010, 9:46pm)  Dr Loosmark has been 'exposed' as a longtime multiple sock-puppet holder (they've found 45 of them, so have bloked for 1 month), but is still up for the vote, with just a note in his discussion page - not his main voting pages (ie the statement and the questions and the vote itself). I'm wondering how many votes the editors will get automatically, seeing as the admin/arbs are such a bad lot? I'm really struggling to find more than two candidates I could possibly support. He only got a month block for that much socking!! He got off lightly, someone must like him. It's up on WP:AN for ban right now, so it ain't over till it's over  EDIT: And all the Eastern Europe types are piling in for the kill. Looks like it's game-over for Loosmark ... QUOTE (User:Access Denied)"Strongest Possible Support for permanent ban. Not indefinite, permanent. Running for ArbCom while managing a huge sockfarm is one of the most disgusting things I can imagine". Either Access Denied has very little imagination or they're an idiot, or most likely both.
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| Ottava |
Sun 28th November 2010, 11:07pm
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QUOTE(RMHED @ Sun 28th November 2010, 5:37pm)  QUOTE(Alison @ Sun 28th November 2010, 10:11pm)  QUOTE(RMHED @ Sun 28th November 2010, 1:59pm)  QUOTE(powercorrupts @ Sun 28th November 2010, 9:46pm)  Dr Loosmark has been 'exposed' as a longtime multiple sock-puppet holder (they've found 45 of them, so have bloked for 1 month), but is still up for the vote, with just a note in his discussion page - not his main voting pages (ie the statement and the questions and the vote itself). I'm wondering how many votes the editors will get automatically, seeing as the admin/arbs are such a bad lot? I'm really struggling to find more than two candidates I could possibly support. He only got a month block for that much socking!! He got off lightly, someone must like him. It's up on WP:AN for ban right now, so it ain't over till it's over  EDIT: And all the Eastern Europe types are piling in for the kill. Looks like it's game-over for Loosmark ... QUOTE (User:Access Denied)"Strongest Possible Support for permanent ban. Not indefinite, permanent. Running for ArbCom while managing a huge sockfarm is one of the most disgusting things I can imagine". Either Access Denied has very little imagination or they're an idiot, or most likely both. I like the fact that this guy has done far worse while not producing any content than I ever did and socked up the wazoo, and yet it would take a community discussion to even get the chance of an indef. Who was backing that guy? I mean, come on, he must have something good on Sue Gardner or something!
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