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> IronDuke vs. SlimVirgin, the bad versus the worse!
gomi
post Wed 8th December 2010, 7:30am
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OK, IronDuke (T-C-L-K-R-D) , gamely using Jayjg (T-C-L-K-R-D) 's tactics for POV-pushing, gets admonished by the venerable SlimVirgin (T-C-L-K-R-D) ! Here is what she had to say:
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IronDuke, your stock-in-trade seems to be serial reverting. It leaves a person no response but to continue reverting too, but most people don't want to. You hadn't edited for five days. I restored the lead you'd removed at Leo Frank, and suddenly you're back, reverting twice so far, and you'd probably continue if I did. Here are your reverts in the last month of that material: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8

It had been in there without objection since August, until you started reverting on November 11, and practically all your contribs there seem to be reverts. It's not acceptable to engage in the serial removal of other people's work, there or anywhere else, just because you personally dislike it. SlimVirgin (T-C-L-K-R-D) 02:51, 8 December 2010 (UTC)


Of course, IronDuke immediately reverted the post to his talk page. It will be amusing to see how this turns out -- the irresistible force meets the immovable object.
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post Wed 8th December 2010, 8:19am
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QUOTE(gomi @ Tue 7th December 2010, 11:30pm) *
the irresistible force meets the immovable object

"Two lunatics throwing shit at each other"
FTFY
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I have much respect for both ID and SV. For the most part, ID is an honest and fair editor in comparison to the heated I/P environment. SV is a quality editor and has contributed positively to important articles (such as the Palestinian exodus).

But unfortunately, she can be very possessive and controlling. Without her admin status, she would now have an extensive block list.

The ID/SV conflict seems civil enough, at least compared to Nab and all his foes.

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post Wed 8th December 2010, 12:12pm
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Wed 8th December 2010, 3:19am) *

QUOTE(gomi @ Tue 7th December 2010, 11:30pm) *

“the irresistible force meets the immovable object”


“Two lunatics throwing shit at each other”

FTFY


“Two shits throwing lunatics at each other”

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post Wed 8th December 2010, 3:32pm
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QUOTE(gomi @ Tue 7th December 2010, 11:30pm) *

OK, IronDuke (T-C-L-K-R-D) , gamely using Jayjg (T-C-L-K-R-D) 's tactics for POV-pushing, gets admonished by the venerable SlimVirgin (T-C-L-K-R-D) !


SV can be quite rational when she steps into disputes which don't involve any of her personal POV jihads. Didn't she slap down Wild Bill Connolley at some point last year? Of course, she may be merely feigning rationality in order to build up cred for her next POV assault.

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I have much respect for both ID and SV.
Surprise, surprise.

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post Wed 8th December 2010, 6:06pm
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QUOTE(gomi @ Wed 8th December 2010, 12:30am) *

OK, IronDuke (T-C-L-K-R-D) , gamely using Jayjg (T-C-L-K-R-D) 's tactics for POV-pushing, gets admonished by the venerable SlimVirgin (T-C-L-K-R-D) ! Here is what she had to say:
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IronDuke, your stock-in-trade seems to be serial reverting. It leaves a person no response but to continue reverting too, but most people don't want to. You hadn't edited for five days. I restored the lead you'd removed at Leo Frank, and suddenly you're back, reverting twice so far, and you'd probably continue if I did. Here are your reverts in the last month of that material: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8

It had been in there without objection since August, until you started reverting on November 11, and practically all your contribs there seem to be reverts. It's not acceptable to engage in the serial removal of other people's work, there or anywhere else, just because you personally dislike it. SlimVirgin (T-C-L-K-R-D) 02:51, 8 December 2010 (UTC)


Of course, IronDuke immediately reverted the post to his talk page.


SV has a point, and IronDuke's burnout is beginning to look a but like Can't Sleep, Clown Will Eat Me's burnout. At some point, teh Burnouter just reverts goodfaith edits without comment, and then finally does nothing but block clear vandals, which is the last brainstem function of a Wikipedian.* That's like HAL getting his personality-circuits pulled in 2001, or what happens to your intellect on Mt. Everest after you climb into the death zone and all your higher functions disappear because there's no oxygen for them. Finally, at the end, you're just slogging along as a functional reptile. Step, step, breathe. Revert, revert, breathe. Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer, do.....

Of course, none of us are missing the irony of having somebody delete SV's negative comments from their TALK page, as soon as they are put up. I think SV actually invented that variation of the Wikigame. Ironpuke probably learned by watching her.



*They offered Life Support to Clown, but apparently it was too late and they had to pronounce him.
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post Wed 8th December 2010, 9:37pm
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Gee, I missed this back in August.
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Resolved: User:Cla68 has been meatpuppeting for banned users User:gnetwerker and User:Herschelkrustofsky. He has been/will be spoken to about this, and it is my expectation that there will be no further harassment from him on this or any other issue.

Evidently, IronDuke has already checked out of his head. There's nothing left to burn out.
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post Wed 8th December 2010, 10:02pm
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Wed 8th December 2010, 1:37pm) *

Gee, I missed this back in August.
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Resolved: User:Cla68 has been meatpuppeting for banned users User:gnetwerker and User:Herschelkrustofsky. He has been/will be spoken to about this, and it is my expectation that there will be no further harassment from him on this or any other issue.

Evidently, IronDuke has already checked out of his head. There's nothing left to burn out.
Putting that little "resolved" template on one's own talk page is simply adorable. Has anyone else done that?
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post Wed 8th December 2010, 10:27pm
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QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Wed 8th December 2010, 3:02pm) *

QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Wed 8th December 2010, 1:37pm) *

Gee, I missed this back in August.
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Resolved: User:Cla68 has been meatpuppeting for banned users User:gnetwerker and User:Herschelkrustofsky. He has been/will be spoken to about this, and it is my expectation that there will be no further harassment from him on this or any other issue.

Evidently, IronDuke has already checked out of his head. There's nothing left to burn out.
Putting that little "resolved" template on one's own talk page is simply adorable. Has anyone else done that?

It's a new one on me. Doesn't it sort of violate WP:CIVIL? dry.gif TALK pages are public and part of WP, you know. If Cla68 did that to IronDuke, IronDuke would have a hissyfit.
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post Thu 9th December 2010, 2:40am
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I didn't know that the MMORPG rules have a provision where you can declare yourself the winner of a dispute. It's a brilliant tactic, maybe derived from the "I'm rubber, you're glue" tactic.
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post Thu 9th December 2010, 4:45am
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QUOTE(It's the blimp, Frank @ Thu 9th December 2010, 2:40am) *

I didn't know that the MMORPG rules have a provision where you can declare yourself the winner of a dispute. It's a brilliant tactic, maybe derived from the "I'm rubber, you're glue" tactic.


Again, it reminds me of Mantanmoreland. I believe IronDuke and Mantanmoreland once belonged to the same mailing list, evidence being that both of them responded here after being asked by email to oppose an admin candidate who was "meatpuppeting for banned user WordBomb." IronDuke must not get much sleep at night worrying about which accounts in WP might be meatpuppeting for banned editors.
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QUOTE(Cla68 @ Wed 8th December 2010, 9:45pm) *

Again, it reminds me of Mantanmoreland. I believe IronDuke and Mantanmoreland once belonged to the same mailing list, evidence being that both of them responded here after being asked by email to oppose an admin candidate who was "meatpuppeting for banned user WordBomb." IronDuke must not get much sleep at night worrying about which accounts in WP might be meatpuppeting for banned editors.

The only meatpuppets IronDuke is really familar with, are made of chopped liver and gebratenes, or stuffed like kreplach. Cla, tell him you're actually a loxpuppet so you don't technically count.
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QUOTE(Wikifan @ Wed 8th December 2010, 6:00am) *
For the most part, ID is an honest and fair editor in comparison to the heated I/P environment.


That's like Glenn Beck heaping praise on Rush Limbaugh; to those with an outside point of view, it's just one blowhard endorsing another.


It is odd how Slim has changed though, she used to be quite the imitator of Jayjg in the I-P topic area; Zeq in particular used to run to her for cover on several occasions. Now she's confronting some of the worst of the Israeli partisans, ID is the most recent.
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Thu 9th December 2010, 11:56am) *

Now she's confronting some of the worst of the Israeli partisans, ID is the most recent.


Cmon, ID isnt anywhere close to the top of the list of the worst of the Protectors of The Greatest Nation In The Universe group, I dont think he is even on that list. But this kerfuffle has nothing to do with I/P. ID's focus has always been on issues related to antisemitism, whether "new" or (what I call) "real". Yes, he has gotten involved in issues related to the I/P conflict (Muhammad al-Durrah, Apartheid, some others but those are the big ones) but not nearly enough for him to be called one of the worst of the partisans.
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post Thu 9th December 2010, 10:33pm
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Mr. ID's claim to fame is not so much partisanship as raw, unchecked aggression in his dealings with other editors.
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Well......did anyone notice that the "NPA on an article talk page" section I quoted above,
suddenly and mysteriously vanished from ID's talkpage? No diff. Oversighted.

Whoops, it was Lar:
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Since the section "NPA on an article talk page" does read like a personal attack to me, or presumably to anyone at all that doesn't have context, I've removed it. I've also written ArbCom as you suggest. If they answer in a way that suggests that your section should be allowed to remain, I'll gladly restore it. Otherwise I suggest you leave it removed until the matter is resolved. Thanks for your understanding and cooperation as we endeavor to keep this a civil and friendly environment. ++Lar: t/c 14:13, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
PS, write me if you would like me to forward you a copy of what I sent to ArbCom for your records. ++Lar: t/c 15:01, 9 December 2010 (UTC)


Good luck with that, Lar. While you're at it, what about the Brewcrewer item that was just below it?

Plus, this was "charming".

IronDuke should run for Arbcom. Let me suggest a catchphrase for him:
"IronDuke! What an asshole! But he's OUR asshole!!"
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Thu 9th December 2010, 10:47pm) *

Well......did anyone notice that the "NPA on an article talk page" section I quoted above,
suddenly and mysteriously vanished from ID's talkpage? No diff. Oversighted.

Whoops, it was Lar:
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Since the section "NPA on an article talk page" does read like a personal attack to me, or presumably to anyone at all that doesn't have context, I've removed it. I've also written ArbCom as you suggest. If they answer in a way that suggests that your section should be allowed to remain, I'll gladly restore it. Otherwise I suggest you leave it removed until the matter is resolved. Thanks for your understanding and cooperation as we endeavor to keep this a civil and friendly environment. ++Lar: t/c 14:13, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
PS, write me if you would like me to forward you a copy of what I sent to ArbCom for your records. ++Lar: t/c 15:01, 9 December 2010 (UTC)


Good luck with that, Lar. While you're at it, what about the Brewcrewer item that was just below it?

Plus, this was "charming".

IronDuke should run for Arbcom. Let me suggest a catchphrase for him:
"IronDuke! What an asshole! But he's OUR asshole!!"


Why is Jpgordon taking IronDuke's side in the content dispute?
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post Thu 9th December 2010, 11:19pm
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It may just be reluctance to use the N word, despite the fact that Wikipedia Is Not Censored. But on the other hand, isn't JpGordon a chronic dipshit?
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QUOTE(Cla68 @ Thu 9th December 2010, 4:09pm) *

Why is Jpgordon taking IronDuke's side in the content dispute?

Ummm, if we have to explain all that, you haven't been reading WR very carefully for the chronic meatpuppet you supposedly are.

Recall please that the Kabal Score was originally defined by how many articles an editor had in common with Jayjg, Jpgordon, and SlimVirgin. The only novelty HERE is that for once, SV is the odd man out of the three. So to speak. As for the rest, it's the same old group that's always been out there, running interference for each other.
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QUOTE(Herschelkrustofsky @ Thu 9th December 2010, 11:19pm) *

It may just be reluctance to use the N word, despite the fact that Wikipedia Is Not Censored. But on the other hand, isn't JpGordon a chronic dipshit?

Now you're just being rude to dipshits. JpGordon goes way beyond dipshit country and resides somewhere in the land of the cuntfaced fucktards.
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