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Picking up on something Eva said here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Iri...12#Wikipedia_II which has affinities with some of the stuff what was discussed here http://wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=&sh...ndpost&p=267006

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Eva's a bit delusional, though:

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In spite of the godawful name and Greg's occasional bursts of spectacular obnoxiousness holding it back, in some ways I think MWB could be the shape of things to come. The Mainspace/Directoryspace divide clearly separates NPOV articles from spam-pieces while allowing the two to co-exist peacefully and borrow appropriate material from each other, and I think it's actually done a fine job in taking the best of Wikipedia's model (which, even in its terminal decline, does have a lot of strengths) while identifying and eliminating the systemic weaknesses which are killing Wikipedia (domination by cliques, vocal fringes dominating a silent majority in the middle, massive social inertia, an inability to control social networking, systemic failure of the article assessment processes, the cult of anti-expertism, the obsession with "civility" beyond any reasonable limit, a self-appointing and self-policing hierarchy...). If Greg changed the name, relinquished most or all of his control to a committee which wasn't selected to agree with him (I think a committee including Alison, Durova, Malleus, Moni, yourself and Shankbone, for instance, would do a fine job at covering the significant bases while avoiding personalities so toxic that debate is impossible), was willing to import content from Wikipedia under GFDL, and managed to get a "name" industry backer (Apple, Cisco or the like), I wouldn't be surprised to see MWB overtake Wikipedia within two years.
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QUOTE(thekohser @ Sat 5th February 2011, 12:42pm) *

Eva's a bit delusional, though:

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In spite of the godawful name and Greg's occasional bursts of spectacular obnoxiousness holding it back, in some ways I think MWB could be the shape of things to come. The Mainspace/Directoryspace divide clearly separates NPOV articles from spam-pieces while allowing the two to co-exist peacefully and borrow appropriate material from each other, and I think it's actually done a fine job in taking the best of Wikipedia's model (which, even in its terminal decline, does have a lot of strengths) while identifying and eliminating the systemic weaknesses which are killing Wikipedia (domination by cliques, vocal fringes dominating a silent majority in the middle, massive social inertia, an inability to control social networking, systemic failure of the article assessment processes, the cult of anti-expertism, the obsession with "civility" beyond any reasonable limit, a self-appointing and self-policing hierarchy...). If Greg changed the name, relinquished most or all of his control to a committee which wasn't selected to agree with him (I think a committee including Alison, Durova, Malleus, Moni, yourself and Shankbone, for instance, would do a fine job at covering the significant bases while avoiding personalities so toxic that debate is impossible), was willing to import content from Wikipedia under GFDL, and managed to get a "name" industry backer (Apple, Cisco or the like), I wouldn't be surprised to see MWB overtake Wikipedia within two years.


A lot of big ifs there, but in the unlikely event Steve Jobs came knocking, I stand by that statement. MWB has some glaring faults, but I give you full credit for being the first to solve the "how to allow spam while maintaining a neutral point of view in important areas" problem which confounded both Wikipedia and Larrypedia, Britannica, Knol et al for the last ten years.
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Peter Damian   If you owned Wikipedia  
thekohser   A lot of big ifs there, but in the unlikely event...  
radek   Picking up on something Eva said here http://en.w...  
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EricBarbour   -_-  
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radek   Delete everything and use the servers as hosts fo...  
victim of censorship   Delete everything and use the servers as hosts fo...  
radek   Picking up on something Eva said here http://en.w...  
Kelly Martin   Also I'd perma ban any grad students from edit...  
radek   Also I'd perma ban any grad students from edi...  
Kelly Martin   The ratio of "things they think they know...  
radek   The ratio of "things they think they know...  
Zoloft   First, I'd sit behind my big desk and put my f...  
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