Commons-hosted Muhammad Images Options

[Fusion]

This does not resolve the problem when off-site discussion threads being linked to not only discuss the behaviour of Commons contributors but also make claims about their sex lives, call them niggers, faggots, nazis, frauds, paedophile supporters and out them including contact details for employers, home addresses, phone numbers, medical history and so forth.

Oh, has all of this taken place here? It seems that I have missed many exciting discussions.

[Web Fred]

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Seriously Nab, go be a nigger somewhere else.

(And as my racial makeup is best described as "Oreo", I get to say that.)

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t...&oldid=71080866

Fae is apparently using this comment to claim that the Wikipedia Review is calling people "niggers". Selina (are you still around here somewhere?) needs to look into restoring the moderation abilities of moderators.

Does it matter what a tosser like Fae thinks?

[The Joy]

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Seriously Nab, go be a nigger somewhere else.

(And as my racial makeup is best described as "Oreo", I get to say that.)

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t...&oldid=71080866

Fae is apparently using this comment to claim that the Wikipedia Review is calling people "niggers". Selina (are you still around here somewhere?) needs to look into restoring the moderation abilities of moderators.

Have you explained to Fae that, in March 2012, the forum was purged of its mods and staff by the site owner (who, it should be noted, has largely abandoned the site) who, in all seriousness, believes we are all agents or sympathizers of U.S. politician and former Vice-Presidential candidate Lyndon LaRouche who made a comment in the 1970s about whether the exact number of Holocaust victims was inaccurate, and thus, according to the site owner, means that those people in 2012 who participate in the current LaRouche political movement ((of which one of our former staff members was a member) must be a Holocaust Denier and therefore he and those who said "Hey, he is a nice guy and a good staff member!" thus must be a part of a vast LaRouche conspiracy to seize Wikipedia Review and turn it into a platform for LaRouche's political ambitions?

That's why this forum has fallen apart with libel and cursing strewn about and become a Wild West environment (the British equivalent being Yorkshire, I believe).

If Fae does have a legal problem with this forum, contacting its host, Hostgator, may speed the process along. They like to overreact to legal threats without investigation.

[Ottava]

The range of opinion here spans from somewhat racist to viciously racist.

GBG, serious question. In your opinion, is this image racist?

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y169/tarc0917/kwanzaa.jpg

It is not "racist" but "racial". It is actually pointing out how white people adopt traditional "black" things mostly to try and make themselves not feel racist. In essence, the picture is showing that the white people are racist or are suffering from bad judgment. It is an attempt to develop "black street cred", which itself is patronizing and thus racist.

[Emperor]

Have you explained to Fae that, in March 2012, the forum was purged of its mods and staff by the site owner (who, it should be noted, has largely abandoned the site) who, in all seriousness, believes we are all agents or sympathizers of U.S. politician and former Vice-Presidential candidate Lyndon LaRouche who made a comment in the 1970s about whether the exact number of Holocaust victims was inaccurate, and thus, according to the site owner, means that those people in 2012 who participate in the current LaRouche political movement ((of which one of our former staff members was a member) must be a Holocaust Denier and therefore he and those who said "Hey, he is a nice guy and a good staff member!" thus must be a part of a vast LaRouche conspiracy to seize Wikipedia Review and turn it into a platform for LaRouche's political ambitions?

That's why this forum has fallen apart with libel and cursing strewn about and become a Wild West environment (the British equivalent being Yorkshire, I believe).

If Fae does have a legal problem with this forum, contacting its host, Hostgator, may speed the process along. They like to overreact to legal threats without investigation.

The reason why the forum has fallen apart is that yes, there was indeed a representative here from the Lyndon LaRouche organization who became a staff member and used Wikipedia Review for LaRouche-related business (i.e. controlling Wikipedia and disseminating propaganda). He was also a Holocaust denier. The rest of the mods and staff rather than distancing themselves from him, instead circled the wagons.

I'm pretty sure Selina doesn't think you're all LaRouche supporters, but at some point you have to judge people by how they act, not by how you think they should be acting.

[Web Fred]

I'm pretty sure Selina doesn't think you're all LaRouche supporters, but at some point you have to judge people by how they act, not by how you think they should be acting.

I don't even know who the hell he is, much less support him.

[Retrospect]

I'm pretty sure Selina doesn't think you're all LaRouche supporters, but at some point you have to judge people by how they act, not by how you think they should be acting.

I don't even know who the hell he is, much less support him.

He's such a tosser he makes other Yank politicos look good. You'd think they'd be nice to him in gratitude except which Yank politico ever was grateful? Anyway he's someone of no importance whatever and never was, so why all the aeration about him?

[Tarc]

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Seriously Nab, go be a nigger somewhere else.

(And as my racial makeup is best described as "Oreo", I get to say that.)

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t...&oldid=71080866

Fae is apparently using this comment to claim that the Wikipedia Review is calling people "niggers". Selina (are you still around here somewhere?) needs to look into restoring the moderation abilities of moderators.

Islam (Also known as 'Pisslam', 'Jizzlam', 'Shitlam', 'Muhammed Is Lam-E', 'iSlam-my-head-on-the-ground', 'fucking bullshit' and 'Durka durka Muhammed Jihad') is the religion of butthurt dirty, smelly, sand niggers who have absolutely no fucking idea of how to fit into the 21st century. Islam is Arabic for "submission to the will of God", which means that they have to stand towards Mecca, kneel their head into the earth and point their arse to the sky. Then they must screem "Allahu ahbar!" Allah can fuck you in any orifice at a whim, all the while demanding you to say you like it. Islam was created by the "prophet" Muhammad (may he writhe in hell) (born April 20, 571), yet another guy who heard voices in his head.

* http://encyclopediadramatica.se/Islam

Nigger is a term of endearment for the half-ape, sub-human invasive species devolved from chimpanzees who eat fried chicken, watermelons and collard greens, make noise about raping white women and stealing welfare checks from invalid grandmothers so they can pretend they bought those plastic spinning hubcaps they stole from other niggers to pimp out their stolen 1974 Cadillacs. Break dancing was invented by niggers stealing hubcaps from moving cars. Niggers are lazy, dumb, and most of all, they smell even after taking a shower. They pretend to act civilized, but quickly give up the ghost when offended and resort to their monkey instincts by getting drunk on Colt 45, Olde English, or any other cheap ass Malt Liquor, smoke menthol cigarettes, weed, and crack cocaine, followed by raping white women and throwing their own feces as their tree-dwelling monkey predecessors. Nigger women, when challenged, will take off their earrings, shoes and bling as their brains are not big enough to know this has no fucking effect whatsoever. Niggers speak an abomination of a language they call ebonics - which is nothing more than gibberish filtered through thick, rubbery lips. Because of the prevelance of violence in black society, 9 out of 10 blacks will be gunned down before the age of three.

* http://encyclopediadramatica.se/Nigger

Aboriginals are the niggers of Australia. They are the most primitive animals on the planet.

They are typically called coons, boongs, abos or black cunts by every Australian. The proper name for a young aboriginal is Lake Angel.

* http://encyclopediadramatica.se/Aboriginal

I'm not calling these out to condemn ED, I have always found such entries quite funny. I'm calling them out to show Suarez in an extremely hypocritical light, as he has no standing to call on this forum to remove such language (especially when it was not used in a specifically racist manner) when he is an admin on a forum where the intent and aim is to be as racist as humanly possible For the Lulz.


As for Ashley/Fae, he is an asshole. He is not an asshole because he is gay, he is simply a gay person who acts in an assholish manner every waking moment of his day. He is the ultimate VictimCard™ player who will deflect any criticism of himself and onto his sexuality.

Nothing done here or at the Kohsocracy matters, he will still find some crutch or some excuse.



This post has been edited by Tarc: Mon 14th May 2012, 1:41pm

[Tarc]

I feel like people are tip-toeing around this, but what if Islamic terrorists start researching who's adding images of the Prophet to Wikimedia sites, determine who they are, and start killing them? Or worse, going after their families, friends, acquaintances, and other innocent people?

An interesting question that would probably draw howls of protest from both sides of the aisle if this were posed over to the Wikipedia. The image removers would cry that you're painting all opposition as terrorists, the keepers would harden into an extreme "fuck them all" bunker.

This post has been edited by Tarc: Mon 14th May 2012, 1:36pm

[TungstenCarbide]

... a Wild West environment (the British equivalent being Yorkshire, I believe).

Cool, I never knew that about Yorkshire. What about the cuisine?

This post has been edited by TungstenCarbide: Mon 14th May 2012, 3:48pm

[Web Fred]

... a Wild West environment (the British equivalent being Yorkshire, I believe).

Cool, I never knew that about Yorkshire. What about the cuisine?

Down South would be more accurate. The Southerners are all a bunch of cowboys.

I feel like people are tip-toeing around this, but what if Islamic terrorists start researching who's adding images of the Prophet to Wikimedia sites, determine who they are, and start killing them? Or worse, going after their families, friends, acquaintances, and other innocent people?

An interesting question that would probably draw howls of protest from both sides of the aisle if this were posed over to the Wikipedia. The image removers would cry that you're painting all opposition as terrorists, the keepers would harden into an extreme "fuck them all" bunker.

"Fuck 'em all" works for me far better than previous eloquent equivalents.

[Fusion]

... a Wild West environment (the British equivalent being Yorkshire, I believe).

Cool, I never knew that about Yorkshire. What about the cuisine?

Indeed, I have always found such parts of Yorkshire as I have visited to be most civilised.

The native traditional dish is roast beef, boiled carrots and Yorkshire pudding. However, there is a high concentration in some areas of Indians and Bangladeshis so if you like their food you can find it done well.

[Web Fred]

... a Wild West environment (the British equivalent being Yorkshire, I believe).

Cool, I never knew that about Yorkshire. What about the cuisine?

Indeed, I have always found such parts of Yorkshire as I have visited to be most civilised.

The native traditional dish is roast beef, boiled carrots and Yorkshire pudding. However, there is a high concentration in some areas of Indians and Bangladeshis so if you like their food you can find it done well.

Sod the beef, yorkshire pud with roast lamb and mint sauce nom, nom, nom. <drool>

Great. It's bedtime and I'm Jonesing for a Sunday dinner! Just great.

[The Joy]

... a Wild West environment (the British equivalent being Yorkshire, I believe).

Cool, I never knew that about Yorkshire. What about the cuisine?

Indeed, I have always found such parts of Yorkshire as I have visited to be most civilised.

The native traditional dish is roast beef, boiled carrots and Yorkshire pudding. However, there is a high concentration in some areas of Indians and Bangladeshis so if you like their food you can find it done well.

I was watching an episode of Wallace and Gromit and, when Gromit had to dispose of a bomb, he chose Yorkshire as the place to throw it rather than at the nuns carrying kittens. I see a lot of poking at Yorkshire on British shows and I figured Yorkshire was like the Detroit, East St. Louis, or New Jersey of Great Britain? I did have a college classmate from Manchester (in fact, most British students at my college were from Manchester) and he seemed to describe it as a fairly rough place. Web Fred and Malleus would disagree, though the BBC News website likes to point out the gun violence and stabbings that go on there.

So, Southern England is the land of gun nuts and right-wingers? I never thought of places like Eastbourne, Portsmouth, Ventnor, Southampton, and the Channel Islands as the British Wild West.

(and, yes, this still has nothing to do with Islam, and that's probably for the best. )

[The Joy]

Have you explained to Fae that, in March 2012, the forum was purged of its mods and staff by the site owner (who, it should be noted, has largely abandoned the site) who, in all seriousness, believes we are all agents or sympathizers of U.S. politician and former Vice-Presidential candidate Lyndon LaRouche who made a comment in the 1970s about whether the exact number of Holocaust victims was inaccurate, and thus, according to the site owner, means that those people in 2012 who participate in the current LaRouche political movement ((of which one of our former staff members was a member) must be a Holocaust Denier and therefore he and those who said "Hey, he is a nice guy and a good staff member!" thus must be a part of a vast LaRouche conspiracy to seize Wikipedia Review and turn it into a platform for LaRouche's political ambitions?

That's why this forum has fallen apart with libel and cursing strewn about and become a Wild West environment (the British equivalent being Yorkshire, I believe).

If Fae does have a legal problem with this forum, contacting its host, Hostgator, may speed the process along. They like to overreact to legal threats without investigation.

The reason why the forum has fallen apart is that yes, there was indeed a representative here from the Lyndon LaRouche organization who became a staff member and used Wikipedia Review for LaRouche-related business (i.e. controlling Wikipedia and disseminating propaganda). He was also a Holocaust denier. The rest of the mods and staff rather than distancing themselves from him, instead circled the wagons.

I'm pretty sure Selina doesn't think you're all LaRouche supporters, but at some point you have to judge people by how they act, not by how you think they should be acting.

I know we had this argument in March when the poo hit the fan, so revisiting it probably wouldn't change anything. What's happened has happened.

Still, I never saw any instance of Holocaust Denial by the staff member here. Can you point to any instance?

[Fusion]

I was watching an episode of Wallace and Gromit and, when Gromit had to dispose of a bomb, he chose Yorkshire as the place to throw it rather than at the nuns carrying kittens. I see a lot of poking at Yorkshire on British shows and I figured Yorkshire was like the Detroit, East St. Louis, or New Jersey of Great Britain? I did have a college classmate from Manchester (in fact, most British students at my college were from Manchester) and he seemed to describe it as a fairly rough place. Web Fred and Malleus would disagree, though the BBC News website likes to point out the gun violence and stabbings that go on there.

So, Southern England is the land of gun nuts and right-wingers? I never thought of places like Eastbourne, Portsmouth, Ventnor, Southampton, and the Channel Islands as the British Wild West.

(and, yes, this still has nothing to do with Islam, and that's probably for the best. )

As I uinderstand it, Manchester is not in Yorkshire but to its west. There is long a historical rivalry between Yorkshire and the areas to the west of it. Maybe someone better versed in English history knows more? The standard phrase for a right-wing but civilised person is "Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells". This is a town to the south-east of London but I have never yet been there. Still, I doubt that even there will you find so many guns as in America.

[Michaeldsuarez]

Seriously Nab, go be a nigger somewhere else.

(And as my racial makeup is best described as "Oreo", I get to say that.)

http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?t...&oldid=71080866

Fae is apparently using this comment to claim that the Wikipedia Review is calling people "niggers". Selina (are you still around here somewhere?) needs to look into restoring the moderation abilities of moderators.

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I'm not calling these out to condemn ED, I have always found such entries quite funny. I'm calling them out to show Suarez in an extremely hypocritical light, as he has no standing to call on this forum to remove such language (especially when it was not used in a specifically racist manner) when he is an admin on a forum where the intent and aim is to be as racist as humanly possible For the Lulz.

[...]

I don't have any desire to censor your comment. All I wanted was for Selina to read my post (and The Joy's post), realize that this forum needs active moderators, restore Somey's moderation abilities, and save this forum.

This post has been edited by Michaeldsuarez: Tue 15th May 2012, 11:53am

[Eppur si muove]

I was watching an episode of Wallace and Gromit and, when Gromit had to dispose of a bomb, he chose Yorkshire as the place to throw it rather than at the nuns carrying kittens. I see a lot of poking at Yorkshire on British shows and I figured Yorkshire was like the Detroit, East St. Louis, or New Jersey of Great Britain? I did have a college classmate from Manchester (in fact, most British students at my college were from Manchester) and he seemed to describe it as a fairly rough place. Web Fred and Malleus would disagree, though the BBC News website likes to point out the gun violence and stabbings that go on there.

So, Southern England is the land of gun nuts and right-wingers? I never thought of places like Eastbourne, Portsmouth, Ventnor, Southampton, and the Channel Islands as the British Wild West.

(and, yes, this still has nothing to do with Islam, and that's probably for the best. )

Do be aware of the traditional roses rivalry across the Pennines. So a Mancunian, as someone from historic Lancashire, might be prejudiced against Yorkshire.

When research was done on people's attitudes to regional accents, the Yorkshire accent, was one of those most favourably received when considering someone's suitable to get a business position. This contrasts with the Brummie, Geordie and West Country accents which would be negatively received in that context. Leeds is Englands's second biggest financial centre after London.

Yorkshire as rough would strike me more as part of a generic North-South contrast. A traditionally parochial Southern middle class view is that civilisation ends at the Watford Gap. The M1 motorway goes through the Watford Gap on the way from London to Yorkshire.

A specific Yorkshire characterisation is for blunt-speaking.

This post has been edited by Eppur si muove: Tue 15th May 2012, 12:02pm

[Web Fred]

I was watching an episode of Wallace and Gromit and, when Gromit had to dispose of a bomb, he chose Yorkshire as the place to throw it rather than at the nuns carrying kittens. I see a lot of poking at Yorkshire on British shows and I figured Yorkshire was like the Detroit, East St. Louis, or New Jersey of Great Britain? I did have a college classmate from Manchester (in fact, most British students at my college were from Manchester) and he seemed to describe it as a fairly rough place. Web Fred and Malleus would disagree, though the BBC News website likes to point out the gun violence and stabbings that go on there.

So, Southern England is the land of gun nuts and right-wingers? I never thought of places like Eastbourne, Portsmouth, Ventnor, Southampton, and the Channel Islands as the British Wild West.

(and, yes, this still has nothing to do with Islam, and that's probably for the best. )

Do be aware of the traditional roses rivalry across the Pennines. So a Mancunian, as someone from historic Lancashire, might be prejudiced against Yorkshire.

When research was done on people's attitudes to regional accents, the Yorkshire accent, was one of those most favourably received when considering someone's suitable to get a business position. This contrasts with the Brummie, Geordie and West Country accents which would be negatively received in that context. Leeds is Englands's second biggest financial centre after London.

Yorkshire as rough would strike me more as part of a generic North-South contrast. A traditionally parochial Southern middle class view is that civilisation ends at the Watford Gap. The M1 motorway goes through the Watford Gap on the way from London to Yorkshire.

A specific Yorkshire characterisation is for blunt-speaking.

As a Mancunian it may be surprising to hear that I like the Yorkshire accent, but detest the typical Manchester "Manc-lad" accent.

Aye lad, south of t'Watford Gap they're all southern Nancies.

[Web Fred]

I don't have any desire to censor your comment. All I wanted was for Selina to read my post (and The Joy's post), realize that this forum needs active moderators, restore Somey's moderation abilities, and save this forum.

Considering the provenance of this website and the fact there is no current moderation I'm pleasantly surprised that things aren't that bad.

Everything that is the slightest bit controversial is being voluntarily kept to one thread and there seems to be a lot less animosity towards each other...or that could just be the consequence of all the wankers disappearing off to the Other Place™.