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If anyone is interested in starting Wikiversity anew, away from the WMF, let me know.

What a great idea for Guido!

Basically, when Wikiversity is demonstrating that it is able to maintain independence within the WMF, this is when Guido "retires," and when SBJ grumbles that, if Wikiversity tolerates the likes of me, he'll vote to shut it down. All that was as the result of a very uneventful month as a probationary custodian, where nobody said "boo!" to anything I'd done, even though I ran perhaps thousands of edits with hundreds of administrative actions. The place has been hummin'. Recent Changes is about 900 actions per day. There were a couple of cross-wiki personal attacks in that period. All from outside users coming to Wikiversity to attack Wikiversitans. Shut down immediately. In one case that outside interference was matched by a personal attack though a user name outing of a French 'crat. Caught and shut down very quickly.

We know how to work within the WMF, and we are getting substantial support from global sysops and rollbackers, with there being no controversy over that. The only complaints? Really, people like Ottava Rima and Guido, and the only real Wikiversitan who is opposed to my work is SBJ, and he's been very inactive for reasons that have nothing to do with me, unless he's been lying, which I very much don't suspect. I think SBJ is straightforward, he believes what he says and says what he believes, whether it's smart or stupid.

I like that. I also liked William M. Connolley for the same reason. You know what happened there, right?

[Abd]

My take, reading between the lines, is that M.S. was doing some sort of experiment seeing if he could post up and retain "sourced" gibberish on esoteric topics on WP without anyone noticing. I'm guessing random fragments from academic papers, each line relevant to some topic, but in sum complete gibberish.

If that's the case: they noticed.

It's easy to think that, but I've spent some time, now, with his work, and that's not what it is. He's mostly doing what might be called research notes. However, I don't really care. He didn't place, as far as I've seen, any gibberish in Wikiversity mainspace. If he does, well, Jabberwocky is nonsense, but it's also something that could be written and studied in an academic environment.

There is no doubt that MS's work, or at least much of it, was inappropriate for Wikipedia. I haven't seen anything on Wikiversity, yet, from him, that is seriously inappropriate. He's doing original research, which I read as linguistic research, how words are used. That's okay. Original research is allowed at Wikiversity, unlike Wikipedia, and if his original research is some kind of parody, that's allowed, too. And if anyone disagrees, well, there is RfD. But that's not really necessary. If he wants to put research parodies in his user space on WV, for example, that's quite acceptable, by precedent.

But it's not okay to attack users.

[SB_Johnny]

Holy crap.

Holier crappier.