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Shalom
post Tue 2nd December 2008, 8:03pm
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Whenever I see Kurt say something disruptive or funny on Wikipedia, I sometimes laugh and say out loud, in a low-toned serenade: "Kurt...!" It's time for another celebration of Wikipedia's most hated character.

Kurt is going for Kelly Martin's record number of oppose votes. He may not know it, and he may not care, but if he stays in the election for the full 14 days, he is virtually guaranteed to be the most opposed candidate for any position of trust in the entire history of Wikipedia. The prospect was not lost on Tombomp (oppose number 174), who says "I'd prefer to see him gain a record on number of opposes." EconomicsGuy dutifully points to Kelly Martin's record of 263 opposes (against 41 supports).

Move over Kelly, you are no longer the most hated person on Wikipedia! "Kurt...!"

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post Tue 2nd December 2008, 8:16pm
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Damn. I knew I should have run.
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post Tue 2nd December 2008, 8:25pm
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his supports seem to stem from "people are being so mean by opposing him a lot."

Kelly, records are made to be broken. If only this was a worthy successor...

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post Tue 2nd December 2008, 8:35pm
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QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Tue 2nd December 2008, 12:16pm) *

Damn. I knew I should have run.


That would have brought wikidrama to a new level.
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post Tue 2nd December 2008, 11:37pm
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QUOTE(Anonymous editor @ Wed 3rd December 2008, 6:25am) *

his supports seem to stem from "people are being so mean by opposing him a lot."

I supported him because I agreed with his platform and most of the views he expressed in answering questions.
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post Tue 2nd December 2008, 11:43pm
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QUOTE(Shalom @ Tue 2nd December 2008, 1:03pm) *

Move over Kelly, you are no longer the most hated person on Wikipedia! "Kurt...!"

To be fair, there do exist other candidates and admins who also seem to lack even a microgram of introspection or self-doubt. huh.gif But they all toe the Wikipedia party line. bored.gif
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post Wed 3rd December 2008, 12:12am
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QUOTE(Giggy @ Tue 2nd December 2008, 6:37pm) *

QUOTE(Anonymous editor @ Wed 3rd December 2008, 6:25am) *

his supports seem to stem from "people are being so mean by opposing him a lot."

I supported him because I agreed with his platform and most of the views he expressed in answering questions.

Including mine? Both the one he answered and the ones he didn't?
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post Wed 3rd December 2008, 12:22am
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QUOTE(Newyorkbrad @ Wed 3rd December 2008, 12:12am) *

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his supports seem to stem from "people are being so mean by opposing him a lot."

I supported him because I agreed with his platform and most of the views he expressed in answering questions.

Including mine? Both the one he answered and the ones he didn't?

I think the number of questions thrown at candidates is ridiculously large. And I certainly have no intention of reading through thirty something complete sets of answers. Though I suppose it is a requirement of arbcoms that they have to be able to put up with being thrown loads of rubbish to deal with.
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post Wed 3rd December 2008, 12:26am
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QUOTE(SelfHater @ Tue 2nd December 2008, 7:22pm) *

QUOTE(Newyorkbrad @ Wed 3rd December 2008, 12:12am) *

QUOTE(Giggy @ Tue 2nd December 2008, 6:37pm) *

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his supports seem to stem from "people are being so mean by opposing him a lot."

I supported him because I agreed with his platform and most of the views he expressed in answering questions.

Including mine? Both the one he answered and the ones he didn't?

I think the number of questions thrown at candidates is ridiculously large. And I certainly have no intention of reading through thirty something complete sets of answers. Though I suppose it is a requirement of arbcoms that they have to be able to put up with being thrown loads of rubbish to deal with.

In my euphemistic way I'd prefer to say "large amounts of user input, some more useful than the rest," but yes.
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post Wed 3rd December 2008, 12:29am
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QUOTE(SelfHater @ Wed 3rd December 2008, 1:22am) *

I think the number of questions thrown at candidates is ridiculously large. And I certainly have no intention of reading through thirty something complete sets of answers. Though I suppose it is a requirement of arbcoms that they have to be able to put up with being thrown loads of rubbish to deal with.


Bear in mind that most arbitrators do not communicate with the community at all between elections (but here's hoping that changes), so it seems reasonable to bombard them with questions during the one time that they're likely to respond.
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QUOTE(Newyorkbrad @ Wed 3rd December 2008, 12:26am) *

QUOTE(SelfHater @ Tue 2nd December 2008, 7:22pm) *

I think the number of questions thrown at candidates is ridiculously large. And I certainly have no intention of reading through thirty something complete sets of answers. Though I suppose it is a requirement of arbcoms that they have to be able to put up with being thrown loads of rubbish to deal with.

In my euphemistic way I'd prefer to say "large amounts of user input, some more useful than the rest," but yes.

Wel l, that's why you're on Arbcom whilst I'm a lowly rollbacker who has to keep his identity semi-concealed.

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QUOTE(everyking @ Tue 2nd December 2008, 7:29pm) *

QUOTE(SelfHater @ Wed 3rd December 2008, 1:22am) *

I think the number of questions thrown at candidates is ridiculously large. And I certainly have no intention of reading through thirty something complete sets of answers. Though I suppose it is a requirement of arbcoms that they have to be able to put up with being thrown loads of rubbish to deal with.


Bear in mind that most arbitrators do not communicate with the community at all between elections (but here's hoping that changes), so it seems reasonable to bombard them with questions during the one time that they're likely to respond.

I found the majority of the questions thrown at me last year to be reasonable and in some cases thought-provoking, but it did take me most of a wiki-month to answer them all. (The questioning period was shortened from a month to three weeks this year, which was good.)

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QUOTE(Newyorkbrad @ Wed 3rd December 2008, 12:26am) *

QUOTE(SelfHater @ Tue 2nd December 2008, 7:22pm) *

I think the number of questions thrown at candidates is ridiculously large. And I certainly have no intention of reading through thirty something complete sets of answers. Though I suppose it is a requirement of arbcoms that they have to be able to put up with being thrown loads of rubbish to deal with.

In my euphemistic way I'd prefer to say "large amounts of user input, some more useful than the rest," but yes.

Wel l, that's why you're on Arbcom whilst I'm a lowly rollbacker who has to keep his identity semi-concealed.

Perhaps, but on the other hand, you only hate yourself, while I have been reliably informed that I hate all of Wikipedia.
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post Wed 3rd December 2008, 12:41am
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QUOTE(everyking @ Wed 3rd December 2008, 12:29am) *

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I think the number of questions thrown at candidates is ridiculously large. And I certainly have no intention of reading through thirty something complete sets of answers. Though I suppose it is a requirement of arbcoms that they have to be able to put up with being thrown loads of rubbish to deal with.


Bear in mind that most arbitrators do not communicate with the community at all between elections (but here's hoping that changes), so it seems reasonable to bombard them with questions during the one time that they're likely to respond.


That's the problem with any form of representative democracy.

Judging by how those arbcomers standing again are doing, in this case you only get to hear how those who haven't yet been arbcoms intend to handle things before they actually get their hands dirty. Those with dirty hands (even non-arbcomers who have dealt with hard cases elsewhere)don't get the votes.

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Perhaps, but on the other hand, you only hate yourself, while I have been reliably informed that I hate all of Wikipedia.


This is one of those rare occssions were the initials LOL are actually true.
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I think the number of questions thrown at candidates is ridiculously large. And I certainly have no intention of reading through thirty something complete sets of answers.


Call me sick but I do..., well for 6 candidates. Besides BLP issues brought, not much questions about anything on content directly and if it is asked answers are usually vague and unsatisfactory so it's a total waste of time reading them.

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QUOTE(Giggy @ Tue 2nd December 2008, 6:37pm) *

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his supports seem to stem from "people are being so mean by opposing him a lot."

I supported him because I agreed with his platform and most of the views he expressed in answering questions.


I'm not sure that's possible, but I guess I'll have to take your word for it.
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post Wed 3rd December 2008, 2:06am
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In my euphemistic way I'd prefer to say "large amounts of user input, some more useful than the rest," but yes.
So that's why you stopped talking to me on IRC? I'm no longer a "user" so my input is no longer welcome?
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QUOTE(Kelly Martin @ Tue 2nd December 2008, 9:06pm) *

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In my euphemistic way I'd prefer to say "large amounts of user input, some more useful than the rest," but yes.
So that's why you stopped talking to me on IRC? I'm no longer a "user" so my input is no longer welcome?

I may be off by a few months, but you had pretty much stopped being a regular Wikipedia "user" around more-or-less the same time we started chatting regularly, so this theory doesn't stand up. Beyond that, I haven't been on IRC that much recently, and when I was I don't recall seeing you often, plus when I come on I am often beseiged with the drama du jour (which come to think of it is one reason I don't come on so much these days). I also suppose that since you haven't been focused on Wikipedia, I wouldn't find you in the channels I log into. I've often said you provide some of the most trenchant commentary on Wikipedia around, especially when any self-admitted trolling is screened out. I'd be glad to catch up soon.
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QUOTE(Newyorkbrad @ Tue 2nd December 2008, 6:16pm) *
I also suppose that since you haven't been focused on Wikipedia, I wouldn't find you in the channels I log into...


Just out of curiosity, what channels do you log into?

I haven't been on IRC for years - the wikipedia channel was sewage then. I've always assumed there were various unofficial channels of better quality (can't believe #wikipedia is as good as it gets).
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QUOTE(Pumpkin Muffins @ Tue 2nd December 2008, 9:33pm) *

QUOTE(Newyorkbrad @ Tue 2nd December 2008, 6:16pm) *
I also suppose that since you haven't been focused on Wikipedia, I wouldn't find you in the channels I log into...


Just out of curiosity, what channels do you log into?

I haven't been on IRC for years - the wikipedia channel was sewage then. I've always assumed there were various unofficial channels of better quality (can't believe #wikipedia is as good as it gets).

The ArbCom channel (but there are rarely more than one or two people in it), the ArbCom Clerks channel (there is a bot that feeds recent decisions from the arbitration pages, useful during contentious times), #admins (some comments from me about that channel in the Piotrus 2 proposed decision), and once in awhile the other wikipedia-related channels like #wikipedia or #wikipedia-en. And lately, as I've said, not much of any.
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And there it is! NYBrad has reached the fabled 300 mark. Congraduations!
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