Takin' Out the Trash: My First Two Scalps, My Crusade Against Porn Fan-Boi Spam at Wikipedia Options

[KevinOKeeffe]

And while I no longer hate people for being Jewish, I did not subsequently decide it was a good idea to become an adherent to orthodox socio-political thought.

Meaning what, that you just have a sort of vague feeling of unease about them now, maybe?

In point of fact, and since you ask, I do happen to believe that the so-called "War on Terror" is little more than an excuse to wage war on Israel's enemies, and that this is, as they say, no accident. If you wish to characterize such criticism of United States foreign policy as "anti-Semitism," that is your privilege. The truth is that each end of the political spectrum has a blind spot on matters pertaining to the Middle East; people on the far-right blame the U.S. government's perfidious mass murder on Zionists, whereas people on the far-left blame it on the multinational petrochemical & defense industries. That is a false dichotomy. Its not one, its not the other; its both.

Just bear in mind that anti-semitism is one of those things we're very sensitive about here on WR... That doesn't mean we ban all such folks on sight or anything, but I'm afraid it does mean the pretext threshold is much lower.

Be that as it may, I never came to this board with any intention of discussing Zionism, or any other matters pertaining to American, European, and/or global Jewry. In every single instance (as we can see above), the subject was raised by others, and directed towards me. I have only responded to that which was put to me. If you don't want people discussing these matters here, I suggest you stop asking me about them, and request that others similarly refrain.

[KevinOKeeffe]

I am curious: The Three Stooges were Jewish. Does that mean Kev hates The Three Stooges?

Negatory. Big Stooges fan. I even like the ones with Schemp, and Curly Joe.

Hell, I even like Seinfeld, and once read a Philip Roth novel.*

My favourite professor in college, Richard W. Steele, was also Jewish (I think), for that matter. They're a smart, clever, and creative people. I just don't like most of the powerful Jews. But then, I don't like most powerful White (Gentile) people, whether in the USA, Western Europe, Canada, or Australia/NZ, either. Nor am I real big on the leadership of the Peoples Republic of China, for that matter, or the Indian National Congress Party. Or the PRI in Mexico. Is there a pattern developing here?


*Not Portnoy's Complaint, just for the record.

[A Horse With No Name]

But then, I don't like most powerful White (Gentile) people, whether in the USA, Western Europe, Canada, or Australia/NZ, either.

You don't...this is a harsh shock...but you don't like Mr. Ontario himself, our beloved Xeno? Oh, the humanity!

I just don't like most of the powerful Jews.

What, like the professional wrestler Goldberg? You're intimidated by tall, muscular Jewish men?

[GlassBeadGame]

Your hate directed toward the JCC was 1999 and at that time you immediately tried to tender an "apology" which your victims found self-serving and insincere. Maybe not so much has changed.

You are mistaken. I never issued any apology to the Albert L. Schultz Jewish Community Center in Palo Alto, California. After they called a public rally, complete with Joan Baez publicly denouncing me, I deemed our accounts in balance.

In any event, I have been repeatedly denounced for refusing to embrace White Nationalism, by people who's opinions are of more interest to me than yours (by simple virtue of the fact that I am much better acquainted with them), even if I do remain a radical rightist on various issues on socio-political controversy. In our society, many former neo-Nazis and the like suddenly turn 180 degrees and become liberals. I leave it to the reader to decide which is more likely to be sincere, the former neo-Nazi who wakes up one day and declares "Multiculturalism is actually a GREAT idea!," or the one who has simply altered his worldview to some significant extent over the passage of years, but remains an adherent to opinions still deemed unfashionable by the dominant majority.

I hate to interrupt this episode of Get to Know a Fascist but I guess that liberal media had it wrong:

Blovad dismissed O'Keefe's televised apology last week as a farce.

``He was naive enough to say he didn't hurt anyone,'' Blovad said. ``The psychological damage to our community has been immense. People are concerned, worried especially with this happening right after the shootings at the Los Angeles Jewish Community Center. We can't go along thinking, `This can't happen here' anymore.' ''

It sure can be hard out there with bullies like Joan Baez and the MSM. Did Miss Baez take your lunch money too?

By the way if you're "repeatedly denounced for refusing to embrace White Nationalism" you might be hanging out with some unpleasant folks. Funny thing is that it is Wikipedia's brand of right wing libertarianism that gives you cover and space to operate on WP. Most people there will never call you on your nutter nonsense. I know your a different kind of right wing nutcase but don't call them leftists.

[Moulton]

The dominant power is generally looked upon with apprehension (if not downright horror), even when the dominant power intends to be a benign and altruistic governor. The main problem here is that despite the best of intentions, the dominant power simply doesn't know how to govern a system of any sort, let alone one populated by denizens who fear or hate the government.

[KevinOKeeffe]

I seem to have picked up a stalker; I had six porn fandom spam articles just 36 hours shy of the seven-day PROD countdown to Deletion, when this clown (User:Chuthya) removed them all in the space of a few minutes.* He now votes Keep, and adds the following line to all my Nominations for Deletion: "Nominator is attempting to disrupt Wikipedia to make a point." Apparently, nominating 2-3 articles per week is major disruption over at Wikipedia. Fortunately, I laid low, and participated as an editor for over four-and-a-half years before I Nominated my first article for Deletion, so my plan to disrupt Wikipedia is going exceedingly well, were it not for the depredations of this meddlesome kid! Curses, foiled again!

Anyway, his User page is good for a chuckle; I think it constitutes some sort of coding error. What is far more interesting is his repeatedly blanked Talk page, where he attempts to conceal the fact he is a serial vandal:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=298744822

This is the high-quality sort of enemy you make, when you attempt to delete the articles about the only women (mom excepted) that play any role in the lives of such people....

Three of the articles I have Nominated for Deletion (of about 6-7 total, over the course of 10-12 days - MAJOR disruption!) look like they may be Deleted. Admins have a lot of discretion on that, so we'll see what happens.

One thing I have learned; don't bother re-Nominating porn spam articles for Deletion a second time. No one will even bother to vote on such Nominations, even if the first Nomination occurred in 2007. You only get one chance each with these things, apparently.


*It seems he's only responsible for de-PRODing five of my six nearly-Deleted porn spam articles. Some other twit beat him to the punch on the other one.

[A Horse With No Name]

After they called a public rally, complete with Joan Baez publicly denouncing me, I deemed our accounts in balance.

When Joan stopped by, did she get to sing "The Night They Drove Ol' Dixie Down"? I love her version of the song.

[KevinOKeeffe]

I hate to interrupt this episode of Get to Know a Fascist but I guess that liberal media had it wrong

Yes, apparently they did. It'd hardly be the first time. They can characterize some remarks I made to a local television reporter as "an apology," but that doesn't make it so.

It sure can be hard out there with bullies like Joan Baez and the MSM. Did Miss Baez take your lunch money too?

As a matter of fact, yes. And I want my $2.25 back!

[GlassBeadGame]

I hate to interrupt this episode of Get to Know a Fascist but I guess that liberal media had it wrong

Yes, apparently they did. It'd hardly be the first time. They can characterize some remarks I made to a local television reporter as "an apology," but that doesn't make it so.

It sure can be hard out there with bullies like Joan Baez and the MSM. Did Miss Baez take your lunch money too?

As a matter of fact, yes. And I want my $2.25 back!

My point is that your "untreated bi-polar illness" is nonsense to free you from the responsibilities of your actions and the stigma of getting caught. You maintain the same ideology while trying to clean up your image by denying the most repugnant aspects. But your saying "my illness made me do it" now shows the same pattern of insincere "change" evidenced by your "apology" then.

What I am saying is that when you say you have changed you are lying. Who knows what you might still be willing to do in darkness when you don't think you'd get caught?

[thekohser]

Over the last week (and for the foreseeable future)...

And Wikipedia ensnares yet another victim...

As I said... Are you paying attention, Kevin?

[Moulton]

After they called a public rally, complete with Joan Baez publicly denouncing me, I deemed our accounts in balance.

When Joan stopped by, did she get to sing "The Night They Drove Ol' Dixie Down"? I love her version of the song.

It's one of my favorite dithyrambs, too. Over the past decade, I've adapted different versions of "The Night They Drove Old Moulton Down" on sites ranging from Cafe Utne to Wikipedia and Wikiversity.

[KevinOKeeffe]

My point is that your "untreated bi-polar illness" is nonsense to free you from the responsibilities of your actions and the stigma of getting caught. You maintain the same ideology while trying to clean up your image by denying the most repugnant aspects. But your saying "my illness made me do it" now shows the same pattern of insincere "change" evidenced by your "apology" then.

What I am saying is that when you say you have changed you are lying. Who knows what you might still be willing to do in darkness when you don't think you'd get caught?

Kevin Riley O'Keeffe: So anti-Semitic he once shot a man just for being circumcised!

Anyway, I'll take you seriously right after I see some evidence you hound far-leftists for the tens of millions slaughtered in the Gulag. Until then, its just more of the usual "those-guys-are-really-bad-'cause-they're-on-the-right-and-people-on-the-right-are-big-meanies!" schtick that has become so cliched in recent decades. History is a rough game. If you want to pretend the European far-right of the 1930s & 40s represents the ultimate in evil, and that people associated with that ideological tendency in years past (yet secretly, in their hearts, they retain their fidelity to the Swastika!) constitute some particular faction of significance that you are obligated to challenge wherever you find it, by all means, enjoy your LARPing. We can even pretend you shot me with a bazooka. Check it out! "Argh! You got me! Now fascism will not prevail!"

Are we done, by any chance? Or do you want to talk about my past some more?

Over the last week (and for the foreseeable future)...

And Wikipedia ensnares yet another victim...

As I said... Are you paying attention, Kevin?

I believe you're trying to be helpful, but I'm not certain I understand your point. You still edit Wikipedia too, right?

[Grep]

... and all this has what, precisely, to do with Wikipedia?

[grievous]

I believe you're trying to be helpful, but I'm not certain I understand your point. You still edit Wikipedia too, right?

I'm sure he does. But he doesn't do it to go on a personal crusade to rid Wikipedia of the "scum and villany" of its biographies of adult film actresses.

But, hey, if it distracts you from your normal activities of fire-bombing jewish centers, more power to you.

[Grep]

Would someone tarpit this please?

[carbuncle]

... and all this has what, precisely, to do with Wikipedia?

Mr O'Keefe is running for a position as a WMF Trustee.

While there have been some rash speculations (and some outright cheap shots) in this thread, is it tarpit-worthy? After all, the information about O'Keefe's past actions and conviction are well documented and he has confirmed them.

[Somey]

Mr O'Keefe is running for a position as a WMF Trustee. ... While there have been some rash speculations (and some outright cheap shots) in this thread, is it tarpit-worthy?

Just to be on the safe side, we should probably wait until the elections are over, and then only tarpit the thread if Mr. O'Keefe actually loses. And for all we know, he might prefer having this all out in the open.

To be honest, I've hardly met anyone personally who I'd describe as a "Nazi" or "white supremacist," so maybe I shouldn't judge... but at least Mr. O'Keefe here does seem much more polite and respectful than the ones you see on TV.

[Moulton]

He's not as far gone as Filll Bob Stevens.

Over the course of two years, Filll has morphed into a raving lunatic.

[GlassBeadGame]

... and all this has what, precisely, to do with Wikipedia?

Mr O'Keefe is running for a position as a WMF Trustee.

While there have been some rash speculations (and some outright cheap shots) in this thread, is it tarpit-worthy? After all, the information about O'Keefe's past actions and conviction are well documented and he has confirmed them.

Oddly there seems to be no way for such an obviously relevant matter to be a part of the WP board election process other than WR. It didn't get mentioned in Mr. O'Keef's candidate statement, what with the word limit and need to dis lefties. No vetting for criminal background seems to be any part of the "office validation" as for age and identity. It is not a part of the Signposts in-depth interview with Mr. O'Keef. I suppose someone could ask in he candidate question section "Are any of the candidates the person known by the Palo Alto press in 1999 as the 'JCC Hate Caller?' " and see if anyone responds.

[grievous]

I think we can believe the veracity of somone who claims to have bi-polarism when the include they following statements in the same essay:

Since freedom of speech would seem to be part and parcel to the mission of the WikiMedia Foundation's various projects, I believe it is important for persons who adhere to unfashionable, tabu, far right socio-political doctrines, to be represented in the halls of power, as it were, within the WikiMedia milieu...In the event I am elected, I swear that I shall do my utmost to always be objective, and to always seek to promote ideological neutrality in a proactive manner.

This post has been edited by grievous: Mon 3rd August 2009, 5:54pm