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Paid lobbyist? Who does he work for? What is his real name? What city is he posting from? Any clues?

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Well: the story is like this: Homey (a user somewhat critical of Israeli policies) started the [[Israeli Apartheid]] article last spring, and all hell broke loose. After countless AfD which did not produce the wanted result, the "compromise" was that the article was moved to "Allegation about Israeli Apartheid". (Actually, the story goes even further back, to a general "Apartheid" article which had a country-section which mentioned Israel (among others)...it got deleted..without an consensus, but the bluff was that the country-sections should go into another article...which they all did.....EXCEPT the Israeli section....) (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif)

However, some of the most fanatical of Israel´s supporters were not happy with only a move (to "Allegations of.."), so they have for the last months been making thousands (literally!) of edits in 100% violation of [[WP:POINT]]. Especially Urthogie and Jayjg, but also
other familiar pro-Israeli editors (and by that I mean editors who hardly edits on anything but Israel/Middle East) ..suddenly developing an interest in "allegations of apartheid" in Cuba, USA, France, or wherever.

It is all a ploy to make Israel look like *any other state.* Nothing special about Israeli policies, right? (The fact that there are thousands of articles and tens, if not hundreds, of books using the word "apartheid" about Israel´ policies towards the Arabs/Palestinians, (including by two Nobel Peace Price winners;Tutu and Carter) ...Israel´s policies is somehow "counted" as the same as a nobody mentioning the word "apartheid" in connection with ANY other country.

I think the gang was a bit surprised to see to opposition to the France article (there are a lot of French people on WP) ...much easier with smaller countries. So we should NOT expect articles about, say: [[Allegations about apartheid in Germany]], [[Allegations about apartheid in Holland]], or [[Allegations about apartheid in Sweden]] --there are just too many German, Dutch and Swedish people on English Wikipedia ---but stay tuned for: [[Allegations about apartheid in Mauritania]], [[Allegations about apartheid in Burkina Faso]], and [[Allegations about apartheid in Turkmenistan]] (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/biggrin.gif)

And the articles are all soooooo bad, an example; Jay started Allegations_of_Saudi_Arabian_apartheid on 6 April 2007:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=120794646
...and it was 90% a direct copy of the [[Sex segregation]] article at that time!:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...61#Saudi_Arabia (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/wacko.gif)
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Heat   Can Jayjg be stopped?  
gomi   Mr. Brandt believes he is from Williamsburg, NY, U...  
anon1234   Mr. Brandt believes he is from Williamsburg, NY, ...  
AndyDyer   Remember - the US pays Israel some $3 billi...  
anon1234   Remember - the US pays Israel some $3 billion...  
Somey   Jayjg might need only 1/5,000th of that money to h...  
Cedric   That's not to say that Jayjg is a decent, fai...  
anon1234   That's not to say that Jayjg is a decent, fair...  
The Adversary   Mr. Brandt believes he is from Williamsburg, NY, ...  
WordBomb   Paid lobbyist? Who does he work for? What is his ...  
anon1234   Paid lobbyist? Who does he work for? What is his...  
Somey   There were some other coincidences that suggested ...  
The Adversary   I somehow would have trusted a few links more than...  
anon1234   quote: "I also had an inkling that he was bas...  
anon1234   Here is Jayjg's first few months on Wikipedia,...  
a view from the hive   Here is Jayjg's first few months on Wikipedia...  
anon1234   Just a friendly reminder, the point of the WR isn...  
Nathan   I can now add that someone pointed me to a third ...  
Unrepentant Vandal   On the other hand, what is with the attempts to ...  
WordBomb   On the other hand, what is with the attempts to ...  
guy   I'm 99% certain he made this "oops!...  
WordBomb   [quote name='WordBomb' post='24372' date='Tue 6th...  
anon1234   [quote name='WordBomb' post='24372' date='Tue 6th ...  
Somey   Just a friendly reminder, the point of the WR isn...  
The Adversary   Jayjg was promoted to admin in Sept. 2004. Few, if...  
anon1234   Paid lobbyist? Who does he work for? What is his r...  
guy   The Chabad-Lubavitch branch of Judaism is now a s...  
anon1234   [quote name='anon1234' post='24412' date='Wed 7th...  
JohnA   [quote name='anon1234' post='24412' date='Wed 7th...  
guy   Its amazing the things you learn on WR And it...  
Somey   Chabad-Lubavitch, eh? I wonder if the appearance a...  
anon1234   Chabad-Lubavitch, eh? I wonder if the appearance a...  
Heat   As far as I can tell every single one of his names...  
Jonny Cache   These are very speculative, but wot the hecque, ma...  
anon1234   These are very speculative, but wot the hecque, ma...  
Jonny Cache   These are very speculative, but wot the hecque, ...  
Heat   These are very speculative, but wot the hecque, m...  
Jonny Cache   For someone supposedly interested in JG Ballard i...  
anon1234   I think that we can assign rough rankings of the p...  
guy   Almost anything beginning with J (Jason) or even a...  
anon1234   Almost anything beginning with J (Jason) or even a...  
The Adversary   Jayjg has checkuser powers, and according to Flore...  
Somey   We need a spy :ph34r: Naaah! Once Jayjg read...  
guy   "office also know all the real identities of...  
JohnA   "office also know all the real identities o...  
anon1234   "office also know all the real identities of ...  
Olivier Besancenot   I saw JayJG was bothering a Muslim, "Bless si...  
Somey   This is my second ban this month - I left a messag...  
Cedric   Well, I think for April, you should [i]totally go...  
Somey   No idea if Somey here is joking, or being earnest ...  
Cedric   Has anyone ever been to Zion National Park, by th...  
anon1234   JayJG finally got me banned for a week for leaving...  
gomi   Time to add User:Crum375 to our hit list :-)  
Joel Leyden   JayJG does not practice Zionism, rather he worship...  
guy   JayJG does not practice Zionism, rather he worshi...  
Somey   [quote name='Joel Leyden' post='26080' date='Tue 2...  
JohnA   [quote name='Joel Leyden' post='26080' date='Tue ...  
Somey   There can be no moral justification for being a me...  
guy   There can be no moral justification for being a m...  
Poetlister   There can be no moral justification for being a m...  
Somey   Right - the ArbCom is more like the Belaboured Par...  
Jonny Cache   Right — the ArbCom is more like the [i]Bel...  
FNORD23   Right — the ArbCom is more like the [i]Be...  
Somey   Well - at least I got a chance to tangle with Slim...  
FNORD23   Well - at least I got a chance to tangle with Sli...  
anon1234   I've been thinking about Jayjg's claim to ...  
Skyrocket   It's just a hunch, but I think he's probab...  
guy   Certainly his current antics on List of Russian Je...  
anon1234   Any clue what's up between Henrygb, Jayjg and ...  
Somey   Why clue what's up between Henrygb, Jayjg and ...  
gomi   Any clue what's up between Henrygb, Jayjg and...  
taiwopanfob   Henrygb is officially toast Reading the lead-up t...  
everyking   Any clue what's up between Henrygb, Jayjg an...  
taiwopanfob   He was merely asked to resign adminship. ... like...  
Jonny Cache   I think it's pretty clear that most of them al...  
Heat   He's also been blocked at least until he conta...  
anon1234   Jayjg and SlimVirgin often operate together, piss ...  
Uly   User:DennyColt account (whom we suspect is User:T...  
anon1234   [quote name='anon1234' post='26586' date='Tue 3rd ...  
Somey   Further research is warranted. Further research ac...  
anon1234   Yeah, you're only up to the Slimvirgin level o...  
Uly   (reads linked thread) Yeah, you're only up to...  
Jonny Cache   I think that Terryeo has been busy on Wikinfo of l...  
The black princess   Hi - I'm **name removed** (indef blocked - som...  
anon1234   We think he is a student who has ample free time t...  
The black princess   Interseting, welcome to the forum. Why thankyou...  
Jonny Cache   Interesting, welcome to the forum. Why thankyo...  
The black princess   Oh yeah... duh. ;) :wacko:  
norsemoose   I don't know if anyone has brought this up or ...  
guy   if one were to evaluate the breaks Jayjg takes ov...  
norsemoose   I'm sure it's been done and he is in the E...  
chankachank   Another clue, though a frustratingly opaque clue: ...  
norsemoose   I haven't yet been able to find anything usefu...  
chankachank   Ah, that is indeed a good thought, and probably ri...  
BobbyBombastic   jayjg says FUCK CHINA! TWICE! sort of in...  
GlassBeadGame   jayjg says FUCK CHINA! TWICE! sort of i...  
guy   So there goes the best hope of bringing bourgeois...  
papaya   I don't see why it is all that necessary that ...  
norsemoose   I don't see why it is all that necessary that...  
Ior   My point is that there is almost certainly some o...  
Somey   I can't wait until someone invents the interne...  
norsemoose   I can't wait until someone invents the interne...  
gerash77   Paid lobbyist? Who does he work for? What is his ...  
guy   I can understand deleting the info from people who...  
gerash77   I can understand deleting the info from people wh...  
Somey   [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spe...  
Somey   Frankly I don't care who (or where) Jayjg is, ...  
Jonny Cache   Frankly I don't care who (or where) Jayjg is,...  
Somey   That's not how I read it... He was responding ...  
Rootology   Again, absolutely despicable. Just saw it, and ...  
Somey   Right - well put! Mind you, I don't think...  
wikilove   Isn't Jayjg "Guy" on Wikipedia - and...  
norsemoose   Isn't Jayjg "Guy" on Wikipedia - an...  
Somey   Mind you, I don't think he was trying to offen...  
guy   That Guy (as opposed to this Guy) is JzG = Just zi...  
Poetlister   Given that his name is "Ben Shalom Bernanke...  
FNORD23   On: Deletion_review#Allegations_of_American_apart...  
Somey   WTF? It's "Allegations of American Aparth...  
FNORD23   and besides, coming down on the side of the left ...  
GlassBeadGame   WTF? It's "Allegations of American Apart...  
Heat   It's amazing how Jayjg is able to get away wit...  
Infoboy   It's amazing how Jayjg is able to get away wi...  
Heat   Jayjg was involved in a very strange exchange that...  
Heat   Jayjg was involved in a very strange exchange that...  
Somey   Damn, how many "Allegations of Apartheid...  
blissyu2   Damn, how many "Allegations of Apartheid...  
FNORD23   I'm guessing that he figures that if every ...  
GlassBeadGame   This wikien-l posting makes sense. Not just in te...  
Heat   [*] Jayjg reluctance to provided identifying inf...  
Infoboy   This is interesting: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki...  
blissyu2   Check this out: http://lists.wikimedia.org/piperm...  
Infoboy   As long as Jimbo will continue to be his fluffer, ...  
Somey   Be a mensch! :P  
Kato   On the afd for Allegations of Chinese apartheid, a...  
GlassBeadGame   On the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedi...  
SenseMaker   [quote name='Kato' post='40301' date='Thu 2nd Aug...  
GlassBeadGame   This is an odd argument. This argument is like d...  
jdrand   Paid lobbyist? Who does he work for? What is his ...  
Ampersand   I wonder why Jayjg hasn't commented in the Chi...  
jorge   I wonder why Jayjg hasn't commented in the Ch...  
Ampersand   I wonder why Jayjg hasn't commented in the C...  
tarantino   I wonder why Jayjg hasn't commented in the Ch...  
The Adversary   Of the "Allegations of Apartheid" -artic...  
Infoboy   And Jay argues they are all the same? He has to...  
Heat   Jayjg's taken quite a beating in the past week...  
SenseMaker   Jayjg's taken quite a beating in the past week...  
jorge   There are large enough Wikipedian populations on ...  
Somey   I missed where we revealed his possible employer? ...  
Infoboy   Then, he accidentally reveals who might be his e...  
jorge   [quote name='Heat' post='41583' date='Tue 7th Aug...  
Heat   [quote name='Heat' post='41583' date='Tue 7th Au...  
Infoboy   Maybe a throw away sock account can link/ping Loth...  
Infoboy   Theory: given that whenever Jay comes under attack...  
LamontStormstar   Theory: given that whenever Jay comes under attac...  
yow   Jayjg's page on Encyclopedia Dramatica is stil...  
LamontStormstar   Someone will just take Jayjg's place.  


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