Ryulong might be going to arbitration Options

[LamontStormstar]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...tration#Ryulong

Ryulong might be going to arbitration

[Ahypori]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...tration#Ryulong

Ryulong might be going to arbitration

The case has now been opened by MBisanz. I'm currently neutral in regards to the case, but at first I didn't think it was going to get accepted: instead it has nine arbitrators supporting and none opposing.

I'll think I'll watch the case: I'm interested in how in turns out.

[Alex]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Req...tration#Ryulong

Ryulong might be going to arbitration

The case has now been opened by MBisanz. I'm currently neutral in regards to the case, but at first I didn't think it was going to get accepted: instead it has nine arbitrators supporting and none opposing.

I'll think I'll watch the case: I'm interested in how in turns out.

Well as I said in my statement, he's been a problem since the beginning, and should never have even been made an admin.

[Ahypori]

Well as I said in my statement, he's been a problem since the beginning, and should never have even been made an admin.

Funnily enough, Ryulong 3 was the first RfA I ever participated in (support). I've often speculated that, had Ryulong gone on to have a fourth RfA (rather than had the third closed at 68% as successful), it's possible that the RfCs and the current arbitration case now opened regarding his tool use and conduct wouldn't be happening, as he would have taken on board what would have led to RfA#3 being unsuccessful, and would be a much better administrator. Unfortunately, we won't know. (IMG:smilys0b23ax56/default/unhappy.gif) I dunno...maybe I'm being too generous here.

For the record, does anyone remember what Raul654's rationale for closing that RfA as successful was?

[Alex]

For the record, does anyone remember what Raul654's rationale for closing that RfA as successful was?

Something like "I spoke to him a bit on IRC, and I think he's a good guy".

[Ahypori]

For the record, does anyone remember what Raul654's rationale for closing that RfA as successful was?

Something like "I spoke to him a bit on IRC, and I think he's a good guy".

Really? Wow...I remember the anger WJBscribe got for promoting ^demon at 63%. At least his rationale for granting adminship in that case wasn't something along the lines of "I like this user".

[Shalom]

Here's the quotation from Raul654:

I have promoted Ryulong to sysop. While some might object that he was below 70% support (with 69.4%), I believe, based on my interactions with him, that he would make a good sysop, and it would be a mistake not to promote him. Raul654 06:22, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Hilarity ensues. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_tal...t_69.4.25.21.3F Renesis is especially vocal for his/her outrage.

I'm sorry, but the claim that I'm putting words in your mouth is completely ridiculous. You said nothing besides "based on 'my interactions...", and I haven't claimed you've said anything else. And I'd like to know why 65%, but not 68%, 70% or 75%? Why any mention of numbers, if this entire thing is based on "discretion"? -- Renesis (talk) 08:52, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Raul654 clarifies:

It's not based *solely* on my interactions with him, and yes, that's the word you are putting in my mouth. I said I promoted him based on my interaction with him. I did not say I did so to the exclusion of the community's commentary. My interaction with him was the deciding factor, but not the only one. Raul654 08:55, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Contrary to Majorly's fuzzy memory of the incident, Raul654 did not say he conversed with Ryulong on IRC about the RFA. He did say:

yes, I have interacted with Ryulong on IRC, as I have interacted on IRC with many hundreds of other people. ...
As to this RFA, the first time Ryulong knew of my interest in his RFA was when I told him I intended to promote him, about 5 minutes before I did. Raul654 08:57, 24 January 2007

One other comment from that discussion, by Somitho, bears repeating here:

Ryulong has been granted the tools, and has promised to use them well. IF he breaks policy and goes nutso; then take it up with arbcom.

Prophetic?

[EricBarbour]

Here's the quotation from Raul654:

I have promoted Ryulong to sysop. While some might object that he was below 70% support (with 69.4%), I believe, based on my interactions with him, that he would make a good sysop, and it would be a mistake not to promote him. Raul654 06:22, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Hilarity ensues. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_tal...t_69.4.25.21.3F

What a perfect example of Raul's arrogant, corrupt and power-mongering personality.

Can we get an RFAR against him for once?

[LaraLove]

Here's the quotation from Raul654:

I have promoted Ryulong to sysop. While some might object that he was below 70% support (with 69.4%), I believe, based on my interactions with him, that he would make a good sysop, and it would be a mistake not to promote him. Raul654 06:22, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Hilarity ensues. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_tal...t_69.4.25.21.3F

What a perfect example of Raul's arrogant, corrupt and power-mongering personality.

Can we get an RFAR against him for once?

Well-deserved, but pointless. It would go nowhere. He holds way too much power and ArbCom wouldn't do jack to him. That's why you haven't seen a case against him.

[Alex]

Here's the quotation from Raul654:

I have promoted Ryulong to sysop. While some might object that he was below 70% support (with 69.4%), I believe, based on my interactions with him, that he would make a good sysop, and it would be a mistake not to promote him. Raul654 06:22, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Hilarity ensues. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_tal...t_69.4.25.21.3F

What a perfect example of Raul's arrogant, corrupt and power-mongering personality.

Can we get an RFAR against him for once?

Well-deserved, but pointless. It would go nowhere. He holds way too much power and ArbCom wouldn't do jack to him. That's why you haven't seen a case against him.

Perhaps because no one has bothered to. If people got up of their arse to make a case instead of coming here to spend their lives whining about how x admin is a bitch and ruined my life etc etc then we'd get a lot more done.

[Malleus]

Perhaps because no one has bothered to. If people got up of their arse to make a case instead of coming here to spend their lives whining about how x admin is a bitch and ruined my life etc etc then we'd get a lot more done.

What species of people are these that have to share a single arse?

[Alex]

Perhaps because no one has bothered to. If people got up of their arse to make a case instead of coming here to spend their lives whining about how x admin is a bitch and ruined my life etc etc then we'd get a lot more done.

What species of people are these that have to share a single arse?

Perhaps yourself?