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... and I'm still gone. And it looks like I'm past that magical 'retired-for-two-days-only' mark. Do I feel any better? Hell, yes!! I'm still reading with dismay the Kato Litany of Bad BLPâ„¢ but now I don't feel any personal urge to go on there and try to make everything right. I just shake my head in disappointment and (mock) shock ... and move on. Frankly, life off-wiki and off-WR is more than full with enough stuff to deal with and, in retrospect, WP just seems so trivial and meaningless now, apart from the very real damage it can wreak upon peoples' lives, BLP-wise. At least now I don't fret and stress over all the bad stuff. In fact, I'm less and less likely to hang around here, too. Yay - freedom (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) |
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QUOTE(Alison @ Fri 13th March 2009, 10:38pm)  ... and I'm still gone. And it looks like I'm past that magical 'retired-for-two-days-only' mark. Do I feel any better? Hell, yes!! I'm still reading with dismay the Kato Litany of Bad BLPâ„¢ but now I don't feel any personal urge to go on there and try to make everything right. I just shake my head in disappointment and (mock) shock ... and move on. Frankly, life off-wiki and off-WR is more than full with enough stuff to deal with and, in retrospect, WP just seems so trivial and meaningless now, apart from the very real damage it can wreak upon peoples' lives, BLP-wise. At least now I don't fret and stress over all the bad stuff. Yay - freedom (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) The fact you're coming back to tell us this makes it clear to me you haven't really left, or detatched yourself from WP. OK, maybe you took a short break, but will WP always be on your mind forever more? |
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QUOTE(Alex @ Fri 13th March 2009, 3:42pm)
The fact you're coming back to tell us this makes it clear to me you haven't really left, or detatched yourself from WP. OK, maybe you took a short break, but will WP always be on your mind forever more?
lol - stop projecting, Alex. Didn't you read the bit that says I'll likely leave here (but not yet, thanks)? No - I'm done. If I need any wiki fix, I'll get that from drama-free minority language wikis, where genuine useful stuff gets done. Not the drama-pit that is enwiki (or Simple, BTW) |
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QUOTE(Alison @ Fri 13th March 2009, 10:49pm) QUOTE(Alex @ Fri 13th March 2009, 3:42pm)
The fact you're coming back to tell us this makes it clear to me you haven't really left, or detatched yourself from WP. OK, maybe you took a short break, but will WP always be on your mind forever more?
lol - stop projecting, Alex. Didn't you read the bit that says I'll likely leave here (but not yet, thanks)? No - I'm done. If I need any wiki fix, I'll get that from drama-free minority language wikis, where genuine useful stuff gets done. Not the drama-pit that is enwiki (or Simple, BTW) Stick around awhile, you have added a lot to the project. From your former days of editing, to admin, and then onto checkuser and oversighter. It's a pretty good record by anyone's standards, and the splendiferous aspect about it is that you never strove to acquire those tools. All in all you are a pretty smart lady, I must admit. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/winky.gif) |
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Alison's right, actually. Detaching oneself from an interwebz addiction is usually a three-phase process, and she appears to be doing reasonably well in Phase II. The phases are determined mainly by the changing motivation for relapse - in Phase I, it's habituality, in Phase II it's morbid curiosity, and in Phase III, which usually comes much later (often after several months), it's boredom.
Needless to say, Phase III is the most dangerous, and to head it off a person has to replace the addictive activity with something else that's both intellectually and personally rewarding in some way. Getting involved in some sort of organized social activity, community improvement program, public volunteer charity work, or even a sport or health club usually does the trick... Meanwhile, focusing on your job usually doesn't work in that respect, though of course it might help keep you from getting fired, assuming your interwebz addiction has negatively affected your work performance.
The question of whether or not Alison's posting here today signals an increased chance of relapse is an interesting one, but ultimately it's unreasonable to expect someone who has been a significant player on the WP scene - and who also works for an IT company - to go cold turkey on internet usage. Besides, we here at WR aren't really asking her to fight any wars or take on any unnecessary responsibility, so her experience here (aside from her disagreements with Mr. Brandt and one or two others) should be somewhat less stressful.
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QUOTE(Alison @ Fri 13th March 2009, 6:38pm) ... and I'm still gone. And it looks like I'm past that magical 'retired-for-two-days-only' mark. Do I feel any better? Hell, yes!! I'm still reading with dismay the Kato Litany of Bad BLPâ„¢ but now I don't feel any personal urge to go on there and try to make everything right. I just shake my head in disappointment and (mock) shock ... and move on. Frankly, life off-wiki and off-WR is more than full with enough stuff to deal with and, in retrospect, WP just seems so trivial and meaningless now, apart from the very real damage it can wreak upon peoples' lives, BLP-wise. At least now I don't fret and stress over all the bad stuff. In fact, I'm less and less likely to hang around here, too. Yay - freedom (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) As I've told several people, your perspective changes when you really head out. The fake 2-day retirements where someone throws up a banner and spends the weekend watching movies with full intentions of returning on Monday is not leaving. Walking out then looking back... whole different project. I view it much like you now. A very well-known Wikipedia admin asked me last night, "Want to hear a joke?" I said, "Sure." Then he said, "Wikipedia." Laughing ensued. Funny because it's true. QUOTE(Alex @ Fri 13th March 2009, 6:42pm)
The fact you're coming back to tell us this makes it clear to me you haven't really left, or detatched yourself from WP. OK, maybe you took a short break, but will WP always be on your mind forever more?
Good job sticking to that resolution, son. Isn't it about time you resign a bit on a project in a fit of drama again? It's been a couple months since you last did that, right? Or, wait, maybe it's time for you to request your most recently resigned bit back. I lose track. |
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QUOTE(LaraLove @ Sat 14th March 2009, 6:36pm)
Good job sticking to that resolution, son. Isn't it about time you resign a bit on a project in a fit of drama again? It's been a couple months since you last did that, right? Or, wait, maybe it's time for you to request your most recently resigned bit back. I lose track.
I don't see where I'm not sticking to my resolution. And in answer to your question, I resigned on commons in December I think, since I had not been very active for a few months, and I saw no point in having admin rights there. If you mean my enwiki adminship right (which was over 7 months ago) when you refer to my most recently resigned bit, no it isn't time. Firstly, I'm working full time on placement until the end of April, so my online time is down and I don't want any stress added onto it. Secondly, it is clear to anyone I have no chance whatsoever at becoming an admin again on enwiki. It certainly doesn't help when people pretend to retire, but come back when they feel like it to get their revenge. |
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One month later and all is well (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) I've not edited at all other than to fix one archaic checkuser request (in the interests of fairness to SeattleHawk) and to edit Apple Partition Map for the lulz. Jeremy immediately appeared on the scene, of course, but whatever ... he misses me so (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/biggrin.gif) Oh, and to post on Jimmy's talk page (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/evilgrin.gif) Sometimes, when some of Kato's Litany of BLP Horrorsâ„¢ get trotted out, I feel the need to go back on and clean up the mess, or looking at the defamation in the movelogs but no ... I'm still gone. (and no - you won't be 'treated' to a month-by-month update) |
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QUOTE(Alison @ Tue 7th April 2009, 2:09am)
(and no - you won't be 'treated' to a month-by-month update)
So maybe a quarterly one? Like the publicly traded companies do. Please, please. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/evilgrin.gif) |
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Wiki power once tasted 'tis like the crack cocaine, and before you know it you're a whore.
Alison indicated here on WR that she came back primarily to address a specific abuse situation, and apart from that most of her admin actions in the months before she retired were to address BLP problems. I don't think it's fair to suggest that she has returned to adminship in search of "power" or anything of the kind. (Note: Edited to tone down last sentence because RMHED could not have seen the on-WR comment I was referring to.) You are the voice of reason Bradley, a man of conscience and understanding. I'm just a drunken fool howling at the moon. |
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QUOTE(Alison @ Thu 4th June 2009, 1:57am) QUOTE(RMHED @ Wed 3rd June 2009, 5:53pm) QUOTE(Alison @ Thu 4th June 2009, 1:38am)
... and I'm sure you're the very model of decorum, despite being such an insufferable ass.
How dare you call me an ass, I'm a twat! I demand you make an immediate retraction of your ass accusation. But of course. Mea culpa. Indeed, I apologize unreservedly! Alison will you ever burn those bridges, or will the wiki umbilical cord always be there? |
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QUOTE(Alison @ Thu 4th June 2009, 12:38am) QUOTE(RMHED @ Wed 3rd June 2009, 4:13pm) QUOTE(Alison @ Wed 3rd June 2009, 11:57pm) I'm sure you are Alison, despite your weaknesses. ... and I'm sure you're the very model of decorum, despite being such an insufferable ass. Oh dear. Alison, you must be seriously bored to be feeding trolls (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) Have you tried gardening? Our radishes are in. Zucchini, pumpkin, summer and winter squash and carrots have all sprouted, the salad section too! We made our first strawberry rhubarb pie from garden fruit ever last Sunday! We've got artichokes this year too. The only problem are those fucking cats. They find freshly tilled soil irresistible, and not just for a restroom. They lounge around, sunbath and walk laps. I planted twelve tomato starts yesterday (all from seed, yes. twenty more to go) and the cats already smashed one. |
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QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Wed 3rd June 2009, 8:31pm) Oh dear. Alison, you must be seriously bored to be feeding trolls (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif) I don't need to be bored! (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/laugh.gif) QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Wed 3rd June 2009, 8:31pm)
The only problem are those fucking cats. They find freshly tilled soil irresistible, and not just for a restroom. They lounge around, sunbath and walk laps. I planted twelve tomato starts yesterday (all from seed, yes. twenty more to go) and the cats already smashed one.
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QUOTE(TungstenCarbide @ Wed 3rd June 2009, 8:31pm)
The only problem are those fucking cats. They find freshly tilled soil irresistible, and not just for a restroom. They lounge around, sunbath and walk laps. I planted twelve tomato starts yesterday (all from seed, yes. twenty more to go) and the cats already smashed one.
You can actually put a cat litterbox outdoors-- with a better class blend like Purina cystals or Fresh Step, cats actually prefer it to dirt. And not hard to maintain if you live in a climate where the rain comes infrequently enough that you don't have to rescue them from impending rain too often. At Trader Joe's and other places (Walmart, even) they sell cardboard cat scratchpads, complete with a package of catnip. Cats prefer that to both furnature and gardens, thus saving both. (Having saved many a garden and couch from many a cat) |
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QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 11th December 2009, 12:30pm) QUOTE(Alison @ Fri 11th December 2009, 6:15am) Ummm. I guess things have gone from bad to worse. I kinda got made sysop on Encyclopedia Dramatica today. It should be interesting to see how Wikipedia as a whole reacts to this ... (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/fear.gif) (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/hmmm.gif) (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/evilgrin.gif) The first ED admin who is also openly an admin on Wikipedia. Needless to say, they kept checkuser out of the equation! Have you lost your mind? As somebody who has his very own ED article, I actually think that this is an extremely good idea! You go, Alison! Anybody who can be an admin on WP and ED is the definition of cool in my book! |
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QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Fri 11th December 2009, 1:01pm) QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 11th December 2009, 12:30pm) QUOTE(Alison @ Fri 11th December 2009, 6:15am) Ummm. I guess things have gone from bad to worse. I kinda got made sysop on Encyclopedia Dramatica today. It should be interesting to see how Wikipedia as a whole reacts to this ... (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/fear.gif) (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/hmmm.gif) (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/evilgrin.gif) The first ED admin who is also openly an admin on Wikipedia. Needless to say, they kept checkuser out of the equation! Have you lost your mind? As somebody who has his very own ED article, I actually think that this is an extremely good idea! You go, Alison! Anybody who can be an admin on WP and ED is the definition of cool in my book! In the context of some of Alison's other issues, I can understand GBG's bemusement. In part, that's why I am interested in the background of this, aside from just being my normal nosey self. |
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QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Fri 11th December 2009, 1:01pm) QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 11th December 2009, 12:30pm) QUOTE(Alison @ Fri 11th December 2009, 6:15am) Ummm. I guess things have gone from bad to worse. I kinda got made sysop on Encyclopedia Dramatica today. It should be interesting to see how Wikipedia as a whole reacts to this ... (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/fear.gif) (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/hmmm.gif) (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/evilgrin.gif) The first ED admin who is also openly an admin on Wikipedia. Needless to say, they kept checkuser out of the equation! Have you lost your mind? As somebody who has his very own ED article, I actually think that this is an extremely good idea! You go, Alison! Anybody who can be an admin on WP and ED is the definition of cool in my book! Now, I just want to know where i find [[Wikipedia Review/Requests for Adminship#Alison]] Triple crown! (Then all you need are admin rights on Wikipedia Watch, and you're made) This post has been edited by Doc glasgow: |
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QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Fri 11th December 2009, 8:01am) QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 11th December 2009, 12:30pm) QUOTE(Alison @ Fri 11th December 2009, 6:15am) Ummm. I guess things have gone from bad to worse. I kinda got made sysop on Encyclopedia Dramatica today. It should be interesting to see how Wikipedia as a whole reacts to this ... (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/fear.gif) (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/hmmm.gif) (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/evilgrin.gif) The first ED admin who is also openly an admin on Wikipedia. Needless to say, they kept checkuser out of the equation! Have you lost your mind? As somebody who has his very own ED article, I actually think that this is an extremely good idea! You go, Alison! Anybody who can be an admin on WP and ED is the definition of cool in my book! Maybe, if your idea of cool includes racism and homophobia. So now Alison is not only charged with cleaning up WP but ED too. Making real progress on that internet addiction. Like those stories of using heroin to treat morphine addiction after the Civil War. |
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QUOTE(dtobias @ Fri 11th December 2009, 2:48pm)
The "hate triangle" between WP, WR, and ED goes something like:
WP thinks WR and ED are hateful, vulgar, harassing sites making unfair attacks.
WR thinks WP and ED are irresponsible places of anonymous/pseudonymous defamation.
ED thinks WP and WR take themselves way too seriously and are sources of lulz.
These distinctions were "purer" in the 2006-07 era, and have been highly muddied since now that people from each of these sites are active in the others.
Of course the truth of the matter is that what "each site thinks about the other two" is true of itself as well (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/smile.gif)... at least to some degree. QUOTE(RMHED @ Fri 11th December 2009, 2:50pm)
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 11th December 2009, 9:21pm) QUOTE(Lar @ Fri 11th December 2009, 10:51am) QUOTE(RMHED @ Fri 11th December 2009, 2:50pm) No, I doubt that lulz (shudder) is the motivation. The real motivation is somewhat darker and ever so slightly sinister. Do tell. She wants the MEGA-lulz. (Bring it, girl!) Amen to that, Brother.... Being gay and partially black, I can live with the racism and homophobia (been there, done that...). I still think that Alison is even cooler for pulling this off! That's my story and I'm standin' by it! |
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QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Fri 11th December 2009, 9:38pm) QUOTE(RMHED @ Fri 11th December 2009, 10:22pm) QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Fri 11th December 2009, 9:08pm)
I still think that Alison is even cooler for pulling this off!
How dare you suggest Alison is adept at pulling things off, you fucking dirty minded perv. Hey, I'm sure that the pervs over at ED are capable of doing that for themselves.... Yes I'm sure you are. |
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QUOTE(the fieryangel @ Fri 11th December 2009, 4:08pm) QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 11th December 2009, 9:21pm) QUOTE(Lar @ Fri 11th December 2009, 10:51am) QUOTE(RMHED @ Fri 11th December 2009, 2:50pm) No, I doubt that lulz (shudder) is the motivation. The real motivation is somewhat darker and ever so slightly sinister. Do tell. She wants the MEGA-lulz. (Bring it, girl!) Amen to that, Brother.... Being gay and partially black, I can live with the racism and homophobia (been there, done that...). I still think that Alison is even cooler for pulling this off! That's my story and I'm standin' by it! That's ED usual response: We have a black person, gay person or we know black people, gay people. But that is weak given the extreme racism and homophobic content that the site hosts. ( including "Luz-ey" pics of lynching with racists slogans, while living family members of the victims still try to live their lives.) I could provide dozens of examples, which I did in a argument with BluArdvark at one point, much to Somey's chagrin. So chop-chop, Alison, get rid of that shit or be prepared to explain why you don't. |
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You've achieved the BADSITES Trifecta, of being a major active figure in WP, WR, and ED at once.
Do you think if we made Alison a mod here, would the universe explode? Also, would Wikipedians be more upset at her being a WR mod or an ED admin? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif) Per GBG, I am seriously shocked by this. Why, Alison, why? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/sad.gif) |
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QUOTE(The Joy @ Fri 11th December 2009, 5:45pm) QUOTE(dtobias @ Fri 11th December 2009, 8:22am)
You've achieved the BADSITES Trifecta, of being a major active figure in WP, WR, and ED at once.
Do you think if we made Alison a mod here, would the universe explode? Also, would Wikipedians be more upset at her being a WR mod or an ED admin? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif) Per GBG, I am seriously shocked by this. Why, Alison, why? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/sad.gif) Dude, she's got important work to do. Calm down. |
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QUOTE(The Joy @ Fri 11th December 2009, 10:45pm) QUOTE(dtobias @ Fri 11th December 2009, 8:22am)
You've achieved the BADSITES Trifecta, of being a major active figure in WP, WR, and ED at once.
Do you think if we made Alison a mod here, would the universe explode? Also, would Wikipedians be more upset at her being a WR mod or an ED admin? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif) Per GBG, I am seriously shocked by this. Why, Alison, why? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/sad.gif) Alison should not be a mod on wr. |
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Fri 11th December 2009, 4:18pm) QUOTE(The Joy @ Fri 11th December 2009, 5:45pm) QUOTE(dtobias @ Fri 11th December 2009, 8:22am)
You've achieved the BADSITES Trifecta, of being a major active figure in WP, WR, and ED at once.
Do you think if we made Alison a mod here, would the universe explode? Also, would Wikipedians be more upset at her being a WR mod or an ED admin? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif) Per GBG, I am seriously shocked by this. Why, Alison, why? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/sad.gif) Dude, she's got important work to do. Calm down. That pic which deserves a direct posting here. Behold: (IMG: http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll191/Shrlocc/Bigcameltoe.jpg) Cammeltoe, the OTHER cleavage. |
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QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Fri 11th December 2009, 11:55pm) QUOTE(The Joy @ Fri 11th December 2009, 10:45pm) QUOTE(dtobias @ Fri 11th December 2009, 8:22am)
You've achieved the BADSITES Trifecta, of being a major active figure in WP, WR, and ED at once.
Do you think if we made Alison a mod here, would the universe explode? Also, would Wikipedians be more upset at her being a WR mod or an ED admin? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif) Per GBG, I am seriously shocked by this. Why, Alison, why? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/sad.gif) Alison should not be a mod on wr. If Alison accepts a position of admin on ED, that's clear evidence that she shouldn't be an admin on any website that claims even a modicum of respectability. |
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QUOTE(RMHED @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:07pm) QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Fri 11th December 2009, 11:55pm) QUOTE(The Joy @ Fri 11th December 2009, 10:45pm) QUOTE(dtobias @ Fri 11th December 2009, 8:22am)
You've achieved the BADSITES Trifecta, of being a major active figure in WP, WR, and ED at once.
Do you think if we made Alison a mod here, would the universe explode? Also, would Wikipedians be more upset at her being a WR mod or an ED admin? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif) Per GBG, I am seriously shocked by this. Why, Alison, why? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/sad.gif) Alison should not be a mod on wr. If Alison accepts a position of admin on ED, that's clear evidence that she shouldn't be an admin on any website that claims even a modicum of respectability. Don't take this the wrong way, but please, shut the fuck up. WP, WR, ED...all just remixes of the same tune. Stop acting like one has any more or less respectability than another. |
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:12pm) QUOTE(RMHED @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:07pm) QUOTE(victim of censorship @ Fri 11th December 2009, 11:55pm) QUOTE(The Joy @ Fri 11th December 2009, 10:45pm) QUOTE(dtobias @ Fri 11th December 2009, 8:22am)
You've achieved the BADSITES Trifecta, of being a major active figure in WP, WR, and ED at once.
Do you think if we made Alison a mod here, would the universe explode? Also, would Wikipedians be more upset at her being a WR mod or an ED admin? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/dry.gif) Per GBG, I am seriously shocked by this. Why, Alison, why? (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/sad.gif) Alison should not be a mod on wr. If Alison accepts a position of admin on ED, that's clear evidence that she shouldn't be an admin on any website that claims even a modicum of respectability. Don't take this the wrong way, but please, shut the fuck up. WP, WR, ED...all just remixes of the same tune. Stop acting like one has any more or less respectability than another. Idiot. |
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Fri 11th December 2009, 5:12pm)
WP, WR, ED...all just remixes of the same tune. Stop acting like one has any more or less respectability than another.
Though there's no denying at least that some of them certainly take themselves more seriously than others. Isn't it odd that there's sometimes more truth in comedy and satire than there is in sober ...soberness? That's really the problem with "encyclopedic" as a word: it means we agree a priori to remove part of the essential truth of the human condition, which is all humor, satire, double entendre, punning, poetry, and snarky judgementalism. All the things that make WR and ED what they are, when they are used as part of the language of discourse, and not just subjects-of-themselves. It occurs to me that the essential thing which defines an "encyclopedia" is not the breadth of its content and subject matter, nor its length, nor the medium it lives on. Actually, the key feature of the thing-- what we've all been missing, is "encyclopedic language." A mode of discourse which has essentially non-emotional Vulcan-hood as its goal. Which is really why there is no set of smilies for use on WP, even on its TALK pages. And why there is much fighting, since these things have a purpose. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/ohmy.gif) And now we begin to see the other connection of Randianism, Mr. Spock, civility, "neutrality", people with Asperger's and so on and so on, with WIKIPEDIA. An "encyclopedia" is where you can actually talk or write about humor, satire, double entendre, punning, poetry, sexuality, pornography, perversion and feces. So long as you do it as Mr. Spock would do it. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/huh.gif) And this bleeds over into the TALK pages, too. There is something in Jimbo, and I think in most high-mucky-muck Wikipedians (no, not Gerard or Guy-- no generalization is perfect), which is horrified by expression of high emotion. It's not that they don't have any. It's that they don't show it overtly (again, like Spock). This is classicism at its most essential, very Roman. Out with the romantic! It's not encyclopedic! And by "encyclopedic," what we mean is: not romantic! It can be biased and wrong and mean and ugly and stupid, so long as it's civil and (on the surface) emotionally cool. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/mellow.gif) |
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QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:45pm) QUOTE(dtobias @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:35pm) QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:33pm)
Idiot.
When you don't have anything smart to say yourself, calling somebody else an idiot can substitute. Idiot. Go vandalize edit Virgin Killer some more GBG. It'll make you feel better. |
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Sat 12th December 2009, 12:53am) QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:45pm) QUOTE(dtobias @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:35pm) QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:33pm)
Idiot.
When you don't have anything smart to say yourself, calling somebody else an idiot can substitute. Idiot. Go vandalize edit Virgin Killer some more GBG. It'll make you feel better. Go fuck yourself with a marrow Tarc, it'll make you feel better, or so TenOfAllTrades tells me. |
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QUOTE(Tarc @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:53pm) QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:45pm) QUOTE(dtobias @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:35pm) QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:33pm)
Idiot.
When you don't have anything smart to say yourself, calling somebody else an idiot can substitute. Idiot. Go vandalize edit Virgin Killer some more GBG. It'll make you feel better. Thanks for making my point. DT hasn't had anything useful to say in quite a long time. He just chimes in now and then with false equivalency arguments from time to time. Which for all of his nonsense about free speech is the end of discussion and analysis. You're just another irresponsible Wikipedian. A critique of Wikipedia addressing issues of social responsibility has gained significant currency on this site. This has not been built on mindless name calling. It has earned its place sufficiently to deserve to call shallow "ïts all the same" bleatings with an "idiot" reply without further comment from time to time. |
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QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 11th December 2009, 8:02pm) QUOTE(Tarc @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:53pm) QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:45pm) QUOTE(dtobias @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:35pm) QUOTE(GlassBeadGame @ Fri 11th December 2009, 7:33pm)
Idiot.
When you don't have anything smart to say yourself, calling somebody else an idiot can substitute. Idiot. Go vandalize edit Virgin Killer some more GBG. It'll make you feel better. Thanks for making my point. DT hasn't had anything useful to say in quite a long time. He just chimes in now and then with false equivalency arguments from time to time. Which for all of his nonsense about free speech is the end of discussion and analysis. You're just another irresponsible Wikipedian. A critique of Wikipedia addressing issues of social responsibility has gained significant currency on this site. This has not been built on mindless name calling. It has earned its place sufficiently to deserve to call shallow "ïts all the same" bleatings with an "idiot" reply without further comment from time to time. Idiot. (IMG: smilys0b23ax56/default/evilgrin.gif) |
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