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The aptly named "Manipulation of BLPs" case is now open. Since Cirt has his own case, I predict that the star of the show will be Will Beback. The issue is described as follows:
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The purpose of this case is to examine partisan feuding/point-of-view pushing in BLPs (that is, the use of articles to enhance or diminish the reputation of individuals prominent in a particular area of conflict); to examine what practical steps can be taken to reduce polarised edit-warring and partisan feuding in BLPs; to examine the implications of search engine optimisation for Wikipedia; and to examine the relevant conduct guidelines.


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Will is clearly hoping to shape the way the case is heard.
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QUOTE(It's the blimp, Frank @ Fri 5th August 2011, 2:56am) *

John and Kiril have been silent for a while. I wonder if the Arbs are discussing this on the mailing list, trying to come up with a coherent plan of action here. (I don't suppose Malice has current list access? Oh well.)

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QUOTE(No one of consequence @ Thu 4th August 2011, 8:07pm) *

QUOTE(It's the blimp, Frank @ Fri 5th August 2011, 2:56am) *
John and Kiril have been silent for a while. I wonder if the Arbs are discussing this on the mailing list, trying to come up with a coherent plan of action here. (I don't suppose Malice has current list access? Oh well.

McWhiney should have been banned years ago. You know it and I know it and everyone
on this forum knows it.

So here's the rub: I predict that Arbcom will flop around like a dead fish for a few weeks,
and someone will close the case as "unresolved" or slap his wrist ever-so-lightly.

They are only "useful" when the miscreant has no extra-sleazy admin buds to back him up.
That should be posted on the top of the arbcom page, if there is any truth in advertising.
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QUOTE(EricBarbour @ Fri 5th August 2011, 3:17am) *

So here's the rub: I predict that Arbcom will flop around like a dead fish for a few weeks,
and someone will close the case as "unresolved" or slap his wrist ever-so-lightly.

They are only "useful" when the miscreant has no extra-sleazy admin buds to back him up.
That should be posted on the top of the arbcom page, if there is any truth in advertising.


That sounds about right. This case isn't just going nowhere it already has gone nowhere. Note the confusion around its drafting (which remains), the feet dragging to get it going, and once it did get going the case was graced with a newbie posting evidence right off the bat. Nobody seems concerned about this one, including the otherwise ever so mindful HersfoldArbClerkBot. But in all seriousness how likely is it that this person also contributes here? Congratulations whoever you are ...

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This is shaping up as a standard arbcom matter with a popular (in some circles) senior editor.

Cirt has gone to ground and hasn't edited since July 25. He'll stay quiet until about a month after the arbcom cases are over. Arbcom will get played with the, "but Cirt hasn't edited..it's just not fair to pass judgement...I sure hope he doesn't leave...we should just close these cases while doing nothing..." card.

It's so often repeated it's gone beyond a cliche.

I would venture a guess that there is an implicit arrangement, a hidden social contract, wherein the editor in trouble goes away for a bit and the arbcom can play a bit ignorant and the problem just ... goes ... away.

The editor doesn't get any severe sanctions for showing up and arguing (creating drama and strife are always bad) and the arbcom doesn't have to be the big meanie (aka, do their fucking job for a change) and everyone who matters (not the great unwashed masses, heaven forbid) walks away satisfied by the kabuki theater.

That's where my money is.
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QUOTE(Vigilant @ Fri 5th August 2011, 3:41pm) *

This is shaping up as a standard arbcom matter with a popular (in some circles) senior editor.

Cirt has gone to ground and hasn't edited since July 25. He'll stay quiet until about a month after the arbcom cases are over. Arbcom will get played with the, "but Cirt hasn't edited..it's just not fair to pass judgement...I sure hope he doesn't leave...we should just close these cases while doing nothing..." card.

It's so often repeated it's gone beyond a cliche.

I would venture a guess that there is an implicit arrangement, a hidden social contract, wherein the editor in trouble goes away for a bit and the arbcom can play a bit ignorant and the problem just ... goes ... away.

The editor doesn't get any severe sanctions for showing up and arguing (creating drama and strife are always bad) and the arbcom doesn't have to be the big meanie (aka, do their fucking job for a change) and everyone who matters (not the great unwashed masses, heaven forbid) walks away satisfied by the kabuki theater.

That's where my money is.


So is Cirt just laying low, or is he starting to develop a new account like he did when he switched over from Smee? I mean maybe his life is in danger again. I'm still not certain I believe it ever was. Malice, aren't there any emails from the list discussing Cirt's off wiki problems when he was Smee? There just has to be.
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SpiderAndWeb   The aptly named "Manipulation of BLPs" ...  
-DS-   I wish I had started my latest "good hand...  
It's the blimp, Frank   The aptly named "Manipulation of BLPs" ...  
No one of consequence   What about SlimVirgin? I think she has been ly...  
It's the blimp, Frank   It sounds like they are not looking to punish any...  
Detective   Rather, expect a new set of behavioral guideline...  
It's the blimp, Frank   [quote name='It's the blimp, Frank' post='282...  
No one of consequence   There is a big debate about this now on this page...  
Herschelkrustofsky   [quote name='It's the blimp, Frank' post='282...  
No one of consequence   It sounds like they are not looking to punish an...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Obviously there is nothing unclear about BLP poli...  
No one of consequence   Admins represent a privileged caste. Not to me....  
lilburne   [quote name='It's the blimp, Frank' post='282...  
Herschelkrustofsky   A simple rule that the only RS with respect to co...  
lilburne   A simple rule that the only RS with respect to c...  
Herschelkrustofsky   If the Daily Post article of June 1 1976 is not ...  
Abd   If the Daily Post article of June 1 1976 is not a ...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Abd, I think you are sort of missing the point her...  
radek   <snip> For example, opinions about living p...  
It's the blimp, Frank   Will has his undies in a bunch and is agitating fo...  
NuclearWarfare   [quote name='It's the blimp, Frank' post='28...  
The Adversary   Wait, who is McWhiney?Look it up on the Hive-Mind ...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Wait, who is McWhiney?Look it up on the Hive-Mind...  
The Adversary   [quote name='The Adversary' post='282351' date='T...  
Milton Roe   [quote name='EricBarbour' post='282345' date='Fri...  
Jagärdu   Cirt has gone to ground and hasn't edited si...  
Vigilant   So what you're saying is that Cirt is Cbrick7...  
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It's the blimp, Frank   This is shaping up as a standard arbcom matter wi...  
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RMHED   I don't think Will Beback is capable of pulli...  
Cla68   [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wi...  
Herschelkrustofsky   Ach, so. But it was EricBarbour's pun, not min...  
Milton Roe   Ach, so. But it was EricBarbour's pun, not mi...  
No one of consequence   Ach, so. But it was EricBarbour's pun, not m...  
A Horse With No Name   OT, but WTF is that? It's my brother-in-law...  
Jagärdu   [quote name='Milton Roe' post='282376' date='Fri ...  
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It's the blimp, Frank   I think what Jehochman says here is actually corre...  
Jagärdu   I think what Jehochman says here is actually corr...  
Daniel Brandt   Multiple choice question: Why is Arbcom unable to ...  
It's the blimp, Frank   Can someone tell me what is meant by "SEO-lik...  
Jagärdu   Can someone tell me what is meant by "SEO-li...  
EricBarbour   [quote name='It's the blimp, Frank' post='2825...  
No one of consequence   Well? Anyone want to disagree? It doesn't ap...  
Jagärdu   Well? Anyone want to disagree? It doesn't a...  
EricBarbour   It doesn't appear to have anything to do with ...  
It's the blimp, Frank   Do you think that Willie and Hochman have actual l...  
No one of consequence   Do you think that Willie and Hochman have actual ...  
Jagärdu   It seems that there was a lot of interest in a BL...  
It's the blimp, Frank   Whoever else wanted to have a case on BLPs in gen...  
No one of consequence   Whoever else wanted to have a case on BLPs in ge...  
lilburne   On the other hand, if someone else wants to step ...  
EricBarbour   It is a pointless waste of time. The system is bro...  
RMHED   It is a pointless waste of time. The system is br...  
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Herschelkrustofsky   [font=Franklin Gothic Medium][size=5][i]Chutzpah i...  
Rhindle   But I have plenty of time to talk about it from ...  
It's the blimp, Frank   There's a real catfight going on. Does that me...  
NuclearWarfare   There's a real catfight going on. Does that m...  
It's the blimp, Frank   Cla68 has tantalizing placeholders.  
It's the blimp, Frank   I hope this isn't too far off topic -- I someh...  
Cla68   I hope this isn't too far off topic -- I some...  
It's the blimp, Frank   The complaints about the skimpy evidence seem to b...  
lilburne   The evidence given by Collect shows that there is...  
It's the blimp, Frank   Actually, I missed one -- he goes after Will Bebac...  
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It's the blimp, Frank   Awesome.  
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